End of C&R Surplus Era?


February 21, 2009, 11:40 AM
I'm curious if folks think we are rapidly approaching the end of new-to-market surplus firearms?

As I renew my C&R FFL, it seems C&R eligible firearms have been increasing in cost just like the rest of the market. Excitement over the newly found M1s and Garands seems to be over. Given Clinton's executive order against imports, and that the 50-years-ago mark is now putting us into service weapons which I believe would be NFA controlled.

I can't see any surplus import of AKs, Galil's , M14s, or SA80s. Even if an importer tried to make them non-NFA, non-F/A trigger groups, and >16" barrels.

Do you foresee any exciting new batches of C&R imports in the next few years? Perhaps a new era of sidearms being imported?

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February 21, 2009, 11:50 AM
No. All I see nowadays on the surplus sites is a bunch of overpriced junk, to put it bluntly. The only reason I want to get my C&R again is to get discounts on gunsmithing and reloading supplies.

There are select fire guns that are C&R.

I don't see any reason why some of the early M-16's won't be C&R eligible a few years from now.

Sebastian the Ibis
February 21, 2009, 12:48 PM
I was just thinking the same thing.

I also wonder how many Siberian warehouses of mosin's and surplus ammo are left.

However, I did see a brand new m14 for sale for apx. $500 a week ago and that got me quite excited!

Duke of Doubt
February 21, 2009, 01:57 PM
Don't forget that sharpshooter weapons will be importable as C&R. Not cheaply, I know, but it's still something. Plus plenty of pistols.

February 25, 2009, 09:59 PM
You have a point there about C&Rs, but I think it'l end differently. With just about every cabinet appointee in the Obama administration having a proven anti-gun pedigree (mongrels), I believe they will eventually go after C&R holders (call it "The C&R loophole"). It'll begin with some senator, Schumer perhaps, squinting sneeringly over his glasses, looking like a smarmy snake and proclaiming from the senate floor, "There's a barely noticed loophole in gun laws that allows common citizens, citizens of the gun culture class, to purchase proven miltary killing weapons through the mail!" Then he'll pause for effect, "As it was on the day John F. Kennedy was murdered, by a military weapon bought through the mail, a C&R holder can still buy that same weapon, a high powered man killing rifle, through the mail today."

Of course he will stretch the truth and even lie if need be. But, why should anyone care. Afterall, these man killers have no legitimate sporting purpose, right? How long do you think it'll be before the BATF starts harassing C&R holders? Eric Holder has barely just begun his war on our weapons.

March 5, 2009, 08:52 AM
Post #5 is reason enough for me to get my C&R now and start buying.

March 5, 2009, 09:46 AM
How does one go about acquiring a C&R license? Since many of the firearms i would like to eventually own could be considered C&R guns, would this license be a good investment? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again,

March 5, 2009, 10:06 AM
Here is a link all about getting one. Considering it's $30 every 3 years, it's a deal even if you just use it to get discounts on reloading supplies.


March 5, 2009, 10:16 AM
Thats pretty cool! Thanks, Ill be looking into this immediately. As a student of history (im about to graduate) I think this would be a great opportunity to get into the C&R aspect of collecting. Thanks again for the help!

March 5, 2009, 10:30 AM
I too think we are reaching the end of the C&R era. It was good while it lasted. You can still find Mosins, SKS, Enfields, K31s, etc. but the writing is on the wall. I'll only be a couple more years before it all dries up; maybe sooner with the stroke of a pen banning all imports.

Yes, it is nice to get the discounts too.

March 7, 2009, 02:34 AM
We're approaching the point where the surplus military rifles coming into C&R status will be NFA items, but there are still lots of surplus pistols which will become C&R-eligible as they pass the 50-year mark. Whether they're allowed to be imported in the future is another question, of course.

March 11, 2009, 06:57 PM
So, you've all got all the the NFA guns on this list: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/1972-2007/section4.pdf

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