[TarpleyG]

I have been pricing rifles lately. Something in a lever action. Why is it that you can get good quality rifles and shotguns in the $200-$300 range that are wood and steel but you can't even get plastic pistols for under $500? I know why--the stigma associated with evil handguns has artificially driven up the price. It's no harder to make/design a pistol than it is a rifle and rifles have more material than pistols. If anything, rifles and shotguns should cost MORE than pistols. What's that telling me? We should be paying $100 for plastic pistols. I'd bet it doesn't cost $50 to make a Glock but to buy one will cost you ~$500. 1000% markup. WOW!

Anyone else tired of this crap???

GT

[RobW]

I just don't buy tupperware; and as long as the metal/wood stuff is reasonably priced, the better for me.

I like this old fashioned metal/wood stuff so much that I got into blackpowder shooting. Wonderful steel and wood for $ 180.00!

But, well I'm old fashioned by myself (old geezer).

[Atticus]

"If anything, rifles and shotguns should cost MORE than pistols. What's that telling me?"

It told me to buy an 870 and three Marlins this year...and I listened. :D

[ARperson]

We should be paying $100 for plastic pistols.

Why is it that no one bothers to complain about polymer components in rifles or shotguns, but it's a huge issue for handgun? :confused:

But back to your question? You really think the use of polymer for one component of a handgun means that the value is that much reduced? Even when all the working, functioning, moving parts are still made out of the same materials that other handguns' working, functioning, and moving parts are made of?

In the same vein, why do people pay more for a rifle that says has only 4 letters on it (C, L, O, & T) when they can pay less for a rifle with more letters (and arguably better results)?

Why does a name make a rifle or handgun cost more than others?

Inquiring minds want to know!

;)

[Jake]

Don't quote me because I'm not 100% sure but if I remember right the production cost of a Glock actually is about $50.

[DorGunR]

Where can I get one of them CLOT rifles????:rolleyes:

[gun-fucious]

if a polymer Beneli Nova is 300 bucks then a polymer pistol could be 300 bucks


New Tanfoglio Witness 40SW Polymer 10 Shot Pistol
Started at $182.50
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=12392780

http://www.tanfoglio.it/sportandcompetition/force.htm

its gotta be supply, demand and liability

[4v50 Gary]

Noticed that many years ago too.

[Keith]

You really think the use of polymer for one component of a handgun means that the value is that much reduced? Even when all the working, functioning, moving parts are still made out of the same materials that other handguns' working, functioning, and moving parts are made of?

But they're not made of the same stuff! The metal parts on a Glock (except for the barrel and slide,etc ) are made of the cheapest stampings available! They're not forged or milled or even MIM'd!


Keith

[BlkHawk73]

It's all supply and demand! Just like when a highly anticipated maodel hits the shelves it's at or above MSRP. Wait a few months and the newness and "gotta-have-one-now" wears off and the price will drop.

You think it costs Ford $35,000 to build a truck? Or that Chevys and GMs cost different amounts to make?

Supply and demand!

[Archie]

the FOB price at Alexandria, VA was $106 Yankee dollars. So the manufacturing cost was less than $100 at the most, and probably closer to $50. (I don't know the markup for Glock.)

So it's fifteen to twenty years later now, the cost has gone up, some. I haven't checked the inflation rate in Austria lately. Perhaps one of our economists could tell us.

You all understand that when Glock makes a pistol for - say - $75 and it sells for $500 in Boise, ID - Glock doesn't make $425 on the deal, right? Glock makes $75 selling it to the distributor, who makes $75 selling it to the jobber, who makes $75 selling it to the wholesaler who makes $75 selling it to the retailer who makes $75 when he sells it. And then there's $50 for various truckers and delivery men.


Also, about modern US made cars: When one counts up the totals for all the costs of making a new car, about 70% of the cost of the car are TAXES!!!

But it's true that a pistol can't cost that much more than a rifle to build. And supply and demand do go a long way toward explaning the relative costs.

[QuickDraw]

Wouldn't a pistol have more machining=more labor=more $$$$?:confused:

Just a thought.

QuickDraw

[sm]

Perhaps the old adage "you teach people how to treat you " kinda applies.
I too noticed the price difference, I can -to a point-see the need to re -coup R&D costs. I recall a student looking at handguns, she really like the K frame, she had shot really well with one and though she shot some semi's, just not enthused... also she had a budget, including holster, ammo...etc. She remarked when told this one has less moving parts , easy to maintain...etc. "What you charge extra for less?". We found her a nice, blue revolver, looks as if been fired once and kept oiled and in a sock drawer. " Times have changed, I paid way less for more parts, craftsmanship than that other gun...makes one wonder the value of craftsmanship vs plastic". She purchased everything she needed and had money left over b/t the two examples.

Kinda hard to argue her points.

Irked, yep I agree.

[son of a gun]

I'm gonna take a wild guess it's supply and demand economics, they produce so much more rifles and they are sold at more places than pistols they can sell rifles cheaper.

[Greg L]

Or perhaps they know that there are LOTS of govt/LE contracts out there to sell lots of pistols to. Granted the Army/Marines buy lots of rifles but nothing like all the various agencies who are more than willing to spend tax money every few years for the latest and greatest marketing job.

Greg

[son of a gun]

Greg L
Or perhaps they know that there are LOTS of govt/LE contracts out there to sell lots of pistols to. Granted the Army/Marines buy lots of rifles but nothing like all the various agencies who are more than willing to spend tax money every few years for the latest and greatest marketing job.


That seems very plausable in the case of HK, Glock and Beretta.

[Standing Wolf]

Supply and demand, demand and supply.

[son of a gun]

oops:uhoh:

[son of a gun]

Supply and demand, demand and supply.

have inverse relationships

http://ecedweb.unomaha.edu/Dem_Sup/demand.htm