Help- Noob Needs a good gun shop in NJ


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prelaw09
February 23, 2009, 09:08 PM
Hi all-

I am looking for a good gun shop in NJ. I am looking for an AR15 but am having a hard time finding one. The last shop that I was in (which will remain nameless) was a large store but only had 1 AR15. It was well worn (had been abused), dirty, bushmaster M4gery with the collapsible stock pinned open with a finishing nail (we cant have collapsible stocks in NJ)... And they were asking almost $1300 (well $1295).

Any one have a good gun shop that sells AR's or other black rifles? Any help would be great.

Thanks

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statelineblues
February 23, 2009, 10:04 PM
If you are near the Trenton area...

Harry's Army and Navy in Robbinsville...
Sportsmen's Center in Bordentown...
Both are located on Rt. 130 (northbound side). Harry's has a larger inventory than Sportsman's and R-A-F, and more in the way of used stuff. Both can order anything you want, and the prices are really about even. Both have knowedgable personnel working there, but I would give the nod to Sportsman's in the helpfulness department. I believe both also have indoor archery ranges (no firearm range, tho - the closest indoor range is Ready, Aim, Fire in Bristol, PA). Go with whichever place makes you feel comfortable.

If you are in South Jersey, try:

Butchs Gun World
1025 W Landis Ave
Vineland, NJ 08360

In North Jersey, look at:

Firearm Guild in Rahway

Hope this helps...

Rezin
February 23, 2009, 10:38 PM
Come to PA and save some cash. Harry's is about 10-15% higher than appreciable shops just across the river in PA.

Or, make the pilgrimage to Cabela's in Hamburg PA (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/community/aboutus/retail-detail.jsp?detailedInformationURL=/cabelas/en/content/community/aboutus/retail/retail_stores/hamburg/hamburg.html&cm_re=retail*left*hamburg);)

As far as Ready,Aim, Fire. I have been there a few times, but a large majority of their clientelle is.......... well, "gangsta"

They are blocks from the "hood" and I have been in there and seen some very questionable stuff. They were recently in the news (http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times/courier_times_news_details/article/28/2009/february/20/felon-indicted-on-gun-possession-charges.html) again, as they had seized videos from there of a "blood" making videos to teach fellow gangbangers how to shoot.

They are about a mile from me, so this is first hand.

There is a old school pistol range called "Pistol People (http://www.pistolpeople.com/site/a002_mainframes.htm)" about 20 mins from Ready Aim Fire, and they are a great place to plink. Not very modern, small and noisy, but it's a safe, fun place to shoot. There is also a more modern indoor in Southampton PA called Classic Pistol (http://classicpistol.com/about.asp) but they are a tad pricey.

prelaw09
February 23, 2009, 11:39 PM
I have been to harrys (they seem high priced) and RAF (rented). Can I buy long guns from a store in PA?

I also have checked out google and the FFL list on gunbroker.com, but its hard to tell from the web.

Thanks for the help.

JonF
February 24, 2009, 01:31 AM
As a NJ resident, you can buy long guns from PA, NY or any surrounding state that chooses to sell to NJ residents. You need to verify with them that they will sell to you but other than that, you just need your FOID card as usual. On the up side, PA, NY, etc does not charge for the NICS check so you save a bit there. I just recently bought a rifle from Gander Mtn in NY with no issues. You sill cannot buy and take home handguns outside of NJ though (you can buy but then would need to ship and transfer to a NJ FFL).

JonF
February 24, 2009, 01:35 AM
I bought a Ruger 10/22 at harry's last summer and they were slightly cheaper than the Sportsmens Center. At the very same time i was also researching a future 1911 purchase and they had a Dan Wesson that i was interested in for a very good price--much better than anyone else would quote me to order one. A few weeks later when i decided i wanted the DW, they had already sold it of course.

everallm
February 24, 2009, 06:18 AM
Just a small expansion on JonF's comment about purchase of a handgun and ship for pickup from an NJ FFL.

You will still need to an approved Permit to Purchase before you get to pick it up, no loophole I'm afraid.

Highland Ranger
February 24, 2009, 07:28 AM
I think Ray's has been sold.

For shotguns, .22's and target style handguns, try Effinger's. They have treated me well.

I regularly shop at Meltzer's in Garfield. Smallish store but a surprisingly large inventory, fair (for NJ) prices and nice guys.

They do stock EBR's, AR's and Saiga's but last time I was there (November) he was pretty much sold out of AR's and we cleaned out his last few Saiga's.

Worth a call though - he was getting a few in, dribs and drabs, and was keeping a list on the AR's.

I have done business with Ramsey's (also north jersey, few locations) but had several poor experiences and now go out of my way to go to Meltzers.

sernv99
February 24, 2009, 08:52 AM
this brings back memories. I use to live in north Jersey and use to frequent Meltzers and Ramsey Outdoor back in the 80's and early 90's. I remember the days of having to get a firearm ID card and permission from the police to get a pistol permit LOL and the ban on semi-auto military style rifles was in full effect. I live in VA now but it seems NJ has got a bit better than from when I lived there.

prelaw09
February 24, 2009, 09:07 AM
Good to know that I can buy long guns in PA or NY. I pretty much figured that the same did not apply to pistols and that a permit would still be needed.

JonF- I'll have to give harry's another chance. The day that I was there it was pretty crazy. It was a Saturday and they were very busy. But 1300 for a beat up Bushmaster M4gery was a little nuts if you ask me, but its their gun they can sell it for whatever they want (and they probably did).

Sernv99- Yeah, NJ kinda sucks, but it is not as ban as folks make it out to be. It largely depends on your town I think. I had no problems getting my FID and pistol permits. My buddy who lives in a different town has gone through long waits, "lost paperwork", you name it, Its just crazy.

statelineblues
February 24, 2009, 09:19 AM
sernv99 posted:
I live in VA now but it seems NJ has got a bit better than from when I lived there.

prelaw09 posted:
My buddy who lives in a different town has gone through long waits, "lost paperwork", you name it, Its just crazy.

Nope - not much has changed at all...:evil:

distra
February 24, 2009, 09:41 AM
NJ, good gun shop in...something does not compute. :confused: They sell guns in that state? ;) I thought you had to be a politician or PD to own a gun in Jersey. :neener: If not, then try on Gunbroker orhttp://www.budsgunshop.com and have them transferred to a shop local to you. Check your state restrictions though, I thought AR's in NJ have major restrictions like CA, 10rd mags, no flash suppressor, folding stock etc.

prelaw09
February 24, 2009, 10:07 AM
I thought AR's in NJ have major restrictions like CA, 10rd mags, no flash suppressor, folding stock etc.

It's bad, but we can have AR's. Cali uses feature for its ban (mags, folding stock, etc). NJ uses a list, Colt AR15 is a no-no, but a XM15 is ok (because its not labeled AR15... screwy, I know). The features we cannot have are folding stocks, collapsible stocks, flash hiders (muzzle brakes are OK) detachable mags over 15 rounds. We even have a company (Arms & Ammo) that sells 15 round AR mags with the magpul followers.

LoneCoon
February 24, 2009, 10:33 AM
+1 on Classic pistol as an Indoor Range. My Dad and I go there when I'm in town. Plus they rent full auto weapons, so that's a blast as well.

Average Joe
February 24, 2009, 05:23 PM
Yes, you can buy a long gun in PA, even if you live in NJ. By the way, Ray's sport shop closed last July. He was no bargain anyway.....

tbtrout
February 24, 2009, 09:21 PM
Where in NJ are you? Brick Armory in Lakewood had some AR's Saiga's and a few others in stock a 2 weeks ago. He keeeps on getting them.

axeman_g
February 24, 2009, 10:20 PM
PreLaw... kick out you hometown,I can give you some guidance. You may want to shop local, as in ranges and classifieds. Lots of gun culture here in Hollywood East, but it is underground.

ken2
February 24, 2009, 11:30 PM
Check out Firearm Guild in Rahway. They have (or had) a decent selection of EBRs. I haven't been there in a couple of months, so can't guarantee that they haven't been wiped out by the craze. Good customer service and in-house gunsmith, too.

yeti
February 25, 2009, 01:16 AM
"Once you go to Meltzer's, you will go no where else, sir." Old man Meltzer was a card, and a real horse trader, you could work out some great deals with the guy, the son is ok, but won't deal like his Dad used to.

Highland Ranger
February 25, 2009, 10:03 AM
Odd thing about Meltzers is it's in a weird spot, smallish, but they really jam in the stock.

Never would have found them if it wasn't for the rude/nasty salespeople at Rays and Ramsey's.

Effingers in central nj is ok too but they don't do ebr's or many handguns - more of an upper crusty shotgun/rifle/hunting place.

prelaw09
February 25, 2009, 10:12 AM
Odd thing about Meltzers is it's in a weird spot, smallish, but they really jam in the stock.

I think that I was there a long time ago. Do they sell other types of sporting goods?

Sam Adams
February 25, 2009, 01:19 PM
The Bullet Hole in Belleville. I bought guns and lots of ammo and reloading stuff while I lived in NJ. I had my folks buy a handgun there, and I spent many an hour there with a friend BSing with the owner.

Friendly place, well-stocked, decent prices - you can't ask for more.

axeman_g
February 25, 2009, 08:59 PM
Prelaw... can you shoot me contact info for Arms and Ammo... I cant google anything for them.

Highland Ranger
February 25, 2009, 09:01 PM
Do they sell other types of sporting goods?

Yes. They are in Garfield near the river, across from a school and next to a deli and liquor store.

They were pretty harried back in November. I'm getting a few pistol permits so I'll be there again soon - hope they have something in the case.

prelaw09
February 25, 2009, 09:18 PM
Ok, so update all-

Axeman, check your PM. I sent you the web site. Also, their # is:
(609) 412-3955

Sam Adams- Freaky, I actually called Bullet Hole today. They sold their last AR yesterday, but the guy on the phone was very friendly and courteous. He didn't come off like I was wasting his time, or he was too good to talk on a phone. I will be checking them out in greater detail. They were nice and helpful.

Meltzers- i think that I bought a pair of hockey skates from them about 10 years ago- if this is the place that I'm thinking of.

But the big story of the day...

I gave Harry's another chance. They had 2 Bushie AR15 and a DMPS LR308. $1800 for a plain jane NIB M4gery... $2200 for an M4gery with a free float tactical rail.... and $3500... Yes, $3500 FRICKING DOLLARS, for a DPMS LR308 with a magpul stock... $300 for a plain blue and wood Ruger 10/22... I think that I'm done with them.

tbtrout
February 25, 2009, 11:56 PM
Harry's has to pay for their brand new store now.

prelaw09
February 25, 2009, 11:59 PM
Harry's has to pay for their brand new store now.

actually, it appears that they have two stores now. they have the gun store and the fishing/ clothing store... maybe that's why they charge double... 2 stores and all.

rscalzo
February 26, 2009, 10:00 AM
Rays Sport Shop
599 Us Highway 22
North Plainfield, NJ 07060

Ray's is gone a few months back.

Try Caso's in Jersey City. He is not big but will get you anything you want in a short time. unfortunatly you will wait for a AR style firearm.
http://www.casosguns.com/

Bullethole is decent has has a range on site. Call ahead because their hours vary and at times are not open when the hours state they will be.

Lawman Supplyhttp://www.lawmensupply.com/ usually has a good supply on hand. Popular with LE in the state.

I thought you had to be a politician or PD to own a gun in Jersey.

You appartently know nothing of the state. Cabelas will be opening in august. Kimber has been building their firearms in the state for over a year.

ejfalvo
February 26, 2009, 10:16 AM
Dont know where you are but if you're in Sussex County try out Simon Peter in Andover/Newton. Good prices and good service.

Highland Ranger
February 26, 2009, 12:30 PM
I always forget about Simon Peter. Bought a browning shotgun from them a few years back.

Nice people, but no selection of handguns or EBR's to speak of. More of a hunting store, at least the last time I was there.

JonF
March 6, 2009, 12:38 AM
There's also an interesting place called Sarco that i have not yet been to but the website pics show quite the interesting display. the seem to deal a lot with surplus according to thier inventory.

Highland Ranger
March 6, 2009, 07:03 PM
Sarco is a special case - lot of military surplus. Tried to buy an EBR there a few years back, wouldn't give me the time of day.

Helluva time finding it too.

Interesting to visit, but more of a club than a business from what I saw.

Redseal
March 6, 2009, 10:06 PM
You can't go wrong with Simon Peter's in Andover. The owner (Rich) has always treated me well and his prices are very good. PS They also have a very nice selection of hanguns.

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