Overlooked weapon - Belt


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Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 24, 2009, 01:19 PM
As I was going through the metal detectors today, and putting my belt w/buckle into the tray, it occurs to me that the belt (which security allows you to retain) could be a pretty decent weapon - not so much lethal, but pain-inducing enough to facilitate a getaway or caused a perpetrator to drop his weapon. Particularly a stout belt with a heavy buckle, such as a rodeo championship type buckle (though hardly anyone wears those anymore, so you'd look out of place). The weapon is akin to a flail or nunchacku or similar, and you can get quite a head of steam built up if swung right. Two reasons to take note of this - if you're in a courthouse or restricted area where you've been disarmed, and that's all you've got, you could make use of it in the event of an aggressor. Second, I should think that terrorists have already thought of this, too, and that would be the first thing they'd use if they couldn't get their weapons past security, so something to watch out for on planes and such (someone taking their belt off should be an instant red flag).

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KBintheSLC
February 24, 2009, 05:49 PM
A have to admit, this is not new to me. My mother used a belt to quell domestic terrorism quite regularly back in the day. ;)

Was it effective in stopping bad behavior? Certainly.

rcmodel
February 24, 2009, 06:00 PM
Seems most of the population under 40 doesn't wear a belt anymore.

Watch for anyone who doesn't have Plumbers Crack and you can narrow down the suspects by at least half!

rc

bikerdoc
February 24, 2009, 06:01 PM
As a bad butt inner city 12 y/o in 1960 we thought we we were really bad because we could whip off our belts, wrap the end around our wrist and flail at each other.
6 yrs later we found out the baddest dude was the sgt who greeted us at Uncle Sams training school for the Southeast Asia games

EHCRain10
February 24, 2009, 10:31 PM
for SD taking a belt off wouldnt be very fast

Cannonball888
February 25, 2009, 07:33 AM
Steel push daggers designed as belt buckles have been sold for ages.

http://www.thrillist.com/files/images/3373.jpg





Also there was even a rare Nazi officer's belt buckle that if you flipped up the front buckle plate three
barrels flipped out and could each fire one 9mm round.

http://www.dragonmans.com/museum/images/im002056.jpg

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 25, 2009, 09:46 AM
My mother used a belt to quell domestic terrorism quite regularly back in the day.

Watch for anyone who doesn't have Plumbers Crack and you can narrow down the suspects by at least half!


6 yrs later we found out the baddest dude was the sgt who greeted us at Uncle Sams training school for the Southeast Asia games

Hee hee. :D

Geneseo1911
February 25, 2009, 10:44 AM
Pretty sure that the sight of me with my pants falling off would stop the threat faster then the belt itself.

Duke of Doubt
February 25, 2009, 11:11 AM
Cannonball888, that "Nazi Crotch Blaster" was debunked years ago.

I really don't fear a belt-wielding assailant. I'd just grab the loose end and yank him off balance.

Geno
February 25, 2009, 11:33 AM
DoD said:

I really don't fear a belt-wielding assailant. I'd just grab the loose end and yank him off balance.

Dang!!! That's where I went wrong with my Father. Heck, I was only 10 years-old! How was I to know to grab that belt?!?!

True story:

Nearly 3 decades back, on the day I tested for my first Black Belt, we were at my parents' home having a celebratory party. I looked at my Father and asked:

Father, you know what they say about pay-backs, right?

My Father laughed and said:

Yeup...they're Hell.

I looked to him and said:

No, they're fun!

At that point, I turned my Father over my lap and commenced to paddle his arse 3 times like he did mine back when I was 10-years old. Trust me, he was as-powerless to stop it as was I was years back.

Belts, huh? I got cho belt! Bring on that belt. :evil:

Doc2005

JShirley
February 25, 2009, 12:17 PM
When I started getting into semi-serious gun training in the late 90s, one of my trainers said he always wore a sturdy belt and had a lock on his carry-on luggage on airplanes.

I've done a good bit of training with flexibles, and than sounded like good advice to me.

Rupestris
February 25, 2009, 04:28 PM
To the best of my knowledge, these are legal to carry. On a plane or otherwise if you happen to be toting a laptop.
https://www.brenthaven.com/images/products/MainImage_laptop-cable-lock.jpg

CWL
February 25, 2009, 06:06 PM
'Bout time we introduced Dr. Hussein to the sword belt guy?

gunship
March 2, 2009, 07:58 AM
I am in the local JROTC and the belts we are issued could really mess someone up and would probly work pretty good to stop someone or atleast slow them down. The belt I am referring to is the ACU belt not the dress belt cause you wouldnt want to scratch your shiny belt buckle.

theboondocksaints22
March 2, 2009, 08:31 AM
the belt my dad had when i was a kid was one of the old plant belts to hold up a radio at work .it was really good at handing out a$$ whoopins it extended his reach a good 2 ft off the sofa

sm
March 6, 2009, 10:15 PM
Ladies,
Don't discount those light weight belts that come with outfits either.

JShirley refers to this as "flexibles".
I just toss this in with Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.

Snag a old cloth belt from a old outfit, now look around, what about that stapler, picture in desk frame, coffee mug...

Anything one uses to defend, will be defined as "weapon" , even that old cloth belt from an outfit that went to the Salvation Army a decade ago.

PT1911
March 6, 2009, 10:25 PM
:eek:imagine the damage suspenders could bring...:what:

slim76
March 6, 2009, 10:52 PM
I have two of the Blackhawk! CQB belts and the friction buckle on these could be used as a bludgeon. They are heavy metal (steel?), however not the kind of thing you wear with a business suit.

TehK1w1
March 6, 2009, 11:07 PM
I wear a basic 1 1/8" leather belt everyday. I've worn it so long that it conforms exactly to my jeans, and I can undo the buckle and have the belt off in under 2 sec. I hadn't seriously considered it as a first-line defensive weapon though...Maybe I should...

Joe Demko
March 8, 2009, 12:17 PM
Garrison belts with heavy buckles and steel-toe engineer boots were/are popular amongst a certain subset of the population for more than sartorial style.

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