Identify this gun...


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Mr. Alloy
February 24, 2009, 03:28 PM
I'm sure many of you have seen this image macro before. I've been trying to figure out what the carbine in the picture is. It appears to be a bullpup with a synthetic stock and AR-type carry handle and sights. So... what the heck is it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/nalloy/1235110615970.jpg

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mio
February 24, 2009, 03:32 PM
im not good at this game. how about a cx4 storm?

Mr. Alloy
February 24, 2009, 03:34 PM
No. I own one of those, so I'm pretty good at recognizing it. Plus, not a bullpup.

HoosierQ
February 24, 2009, 03:39 PM
Tavor maybe. Uniforms don't look particularly Israeli but I am thinking maybe Tavor.

mcwjr13
February 24, 2009, 03:43 PM
Could they be Indian they also use variants of the Tavor? To me it looks like it could be an L98 cadet rifle.

Zundfolge
February 24, 2009, 03:47 PM
Not a Tavor ... Chinese Type-95 or 97

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/type97.jpg
(yeah, this pic is airsoft, but best I could find on short notice)

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as39-e.htm

Here's a 95
http://world.guns.ru/assault/type95-1.jpg

(only real difference between them is caliber ... that and the airsoft one seems to be missing the bit of vertical foregrip type thing)

Pulse
February 24, 2009, 03:48 PM
QBZ-95 in Caliber 5.8x42 mm

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as39-e.htm

Ohio Gun Guy
February 24, 2009, 03:49 PM
I second the Chinese 97.

See the guards in the background? :scrutiny::evil:

hounder
February 24, 2009, 03:49 PM
Try this I believe it's a TAVOR..........http://www.defense-update.com/directory/tavor.htm

dogtown tom
February 24, 2009, 03:53 PM
Whatever it is..........they could've had a V8 !!!:D

Zundfolge
February 24, 2009, 03:54 PM
Not a Tavor ... look at the ejection port.

That and the Chinese characters on the soldiers uniforms.

HoosierQ
February 24, 2009, 03:56 PM
Nope...you guys are right. Front sight is all wrong for a Tavor as well. Looks like the Chinese gun to me as well now. I was guessing.

Zundfolge
February 24, 2009, 04:03 PM
Found the original photo (and others) here

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=1393&page=3
(here's (http://news.sina.com.cn/c/p/2006-04-28/17479744759.shtml) the actual origin of the images apparently Oh and cool, video here (http://v.ku6.com/show/gG7C2lPoMf9xteW6.html)!)

Apparently its these guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Wolf_Commando_Unit).

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060501/1540/308130/308135.jpg


Based on the mag in this pic I say Type-95 for sure

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060501/1540/308130/308133.jpg


Damn I love teh internets! :neener:

Tennesseean
February 24, 2009, 04:05 PM
Zundfolge-

Good photo. From the profile, it appears to indeed be a QBZ-95

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QBZ-95

cleardiddion
February 24, 2009, 04:07 PM
My money's on the 95

tyler500e
February 24, 2009, 04:46 PM
how much does one of those 95's run?

Zundfolge
February 24, 2009, 04:57 PM
how much does one of those 95's run?
Doesn't matter.

Clinton banned the import of Chinese "non sporting" firearms by executive order, so NO NORINCO FOR YOU!

Seenterman
February 24, 2009, 05:02 PM
Can anyone tell me what the hell their doing in the face palm pic??
I've been wondering about that for like a year!! Someone!! Anyone!!

Zundfolge
February 24, 2009, 05:05 PM
Seenterman ... my guess is its something akin to "Jazz Hands" since they were performing some sort of choreographed routine.

Pulse
February 24, 2009, 05:05 PM
in Canada you can get them.. about 700USD for the 5.56x45 version.

from what i have heard, the 5.56mm version is, type 97,... "not so good", while the 5.8x42mm version, type95, is supposed to be a preaty decent firearm.

Dravur
February 24, 2009, 05:59 PM
What you have there is the famous Chinese Precision Tactical Dance Team.

Loved them in the Olympics.

Mr. Alloy
February 24, 2009, 07:02 PM
Hmm, not nearly as nice looking as it appeared in the facepalm picture. Thanks for coming through, though, everyone!

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