[shevrock]

Well, i'm planning on picking up a blackpowder pistol. I don't say revolver because i may get a single shot. Either way. What is the best place to buy a blackpowder pistol, or rifle for that matter, online?

[scrat]

check out dixie gun works

[shevrock]

Yeah i've found that one. they seem fairly well established around the board. are their other places as well?

[arcticap]

Folks shop by price, selection, return policy etc...
Is there a specific brand, model or price range?

http://www.cherrys.com/ped_pist.htm

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Bargain+Bin:+Rifles

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/deptsearch1x.asp?dept=%4D%75%7A%7A%6C%65%6C%6F%61%64%69%6E%67

http://www.possibleshop.com/

[shevrock]

THANKS FOR THE LINKS!

sorry got exited their :)

But my price range for everything [gun,bullets, wads, nipples, and powder] is around 200-300 dollars.

[Chawbaccer]

You can find the Deerhunter as a kit for around two hundred or less HERE (http://www.cainsoutdoor.com/shop/item.asp?item=318537) YOu cab get it assembled for a few dollars more. Add your powder,balls,caps and yo are ready to go.

[madcratebuilder]

Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat20817&navAction=jump&navCount=1&cmCat=MainCatcat20712&parentType=category&parentId=cat20712) has a good selection of revolvers. They also have coupons for free shipping and 10-15% discounts most of the time. If you decide to buy their, pm me for the codes I have.

[shevrock]

two things. how hard is it to build a rifle, and how is cabelas customer service shipping wise?

[4v50 Gary]

How hard is it to build a rifle? Depends on the type of kit. Some kits will take about 100 hours and a lot of skill. These are the folks who take gun building classes that teach them how to carve the stock (relief carving), stock shaping, inletting the barrel or the lock or other parts, lock assembly, forging buttplates or trigger guards, etc.

But if you're skilled, that kit could be worth thousands. If you're not, it's worth the price of the kit. If you're thinking one of those Great Plains Kit, then it's the cost of the Great Plains Kit.

[shevrock]

So unless i've taken gun building classes then a kit is probably a bad idea for a first blackpowder then.

[mykeal]

And how hard is a Great Plains kit, you ask?

If you don't do any 'customizing' with the stock one can complete a GPR kit in 40-60 manhours, even less if you're familiar with kits of this type; the GPR kit is considered an 'in the white' kit, in that little shaping or inletting is required and most of the effort is in finishing the metal ansd wood. No power tools are needed; in fact, use of power tools is discouraged as they can lead to some pretty significant damage very quickly.

No special skills, other than patience, lots of patience, are required. Don't be in a hurry - think your way through each step and take your time.

[shevrock]

I'm still learning patience :}. so most likely i'm gonna get this for myself http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid=5EWRNBUL1VWQDLAQBBKSCOVMCAEFAIWE?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=cat20720_feat&id=0006186216058a&navCount=14&podId=0006186&parentId=cat602736&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat602736&hasJS=true&_requestid=54374

and get the starter kit from possible arms or whatever it was called. one question. why are their so many calibers that fit in the same caliber?

[grimjaw]

I've bought from Dixie and would do so again.

I've been looking at www.buffaloarms.com and www.regtqm.com but I can't give you a review of their services.

jm

[madcratebuilder]

So unless i've taken gun building classes then a kit is probably a bad idea for a first blackpowder then.

Are you comfortable sanding wood, a small amount of inletting (carving the wood so parts fit into the stock) You well need to draw file and blue/bown some of the metal parts. It may seem difficult if you have never done this type of work. In reality it is fairly easy to do. There are a lot of on-line resources that well help.

cabelas customer service

It's great.

The revolver you linked, you are aware it's a brass frame and you should limit the amount of powder charge?
The starter kit is not really a bargain. I would really recommend buying your RB, lube, nipple wrench, flask and capping tool as separate components.


why are their so many calibers that fit in the same caliber?

Do you mean different size round ball for each caliber? There is some variation on the chamber size from the different manufacturers, and you need to have a tight fit on the RB. It needs to shave a ring of lead to seal the chamber, to small no seal, to large and you can damage the rammer.

[shevrock]

Okay. so what would you suggest for a .44 handgun? I'm not very good at sanding or anything yet, so i'll wait. lastly i just think that that one looks like a good starter.

[Gaucho Gringo]

I bought a Pietta 1851 Colt Navy in .44 from the Possibles Shop and have been happy with it. Here is the URL http://www.possibleshop.com/cap-ball-closeout.htm . It is the first one. It is a steal to get a steel framed 1851 Colt Navy .44 for less than almost all the brass framed ones sell for. I am saving up to buy a couple more of them for projects I have in mind.

[madcratebuilder]

My personal favorite is a 51 Navy, but i think most folks would recommend a New Model Army (1858) Remington. It is a little less finicky about becoming powder fouled. The cylinder is much easier to remove. I believe Cabela's has one on sale.
Here it is. (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712-cat20817_TGP&id=0006195210082a&navCount=2&podId=0006195&parentId=cat20817&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20817&hasJS=true)

[Gaucho Gringo]

I forgot about Cabelas sale on 1858. Better hurry as it is only good until March 2nd as I remember. It is also my birthday. The Pietta 1858 Remington .44 is a good gun as I have one too.

[Smokin_Gun]

Shevrock, for $20 more I'd recommend this one for a first BP Revolver bar none. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?type=product&cmCat=Related_IPL_216058&id=0006195210082a
Get a Steel frame Colt when you catch the "I gotta buy another BP Rev Bug". :O) You won't be sorry...just buy some .454" balls, caps Rem#10's or CCI#11's, some wool wads for starters, a pound of Black Powder and a Powder Measurer...and go have fun.

[aprayinbear]

I picked up one of these from Cabelas several weeks ago and couldn't be more pleased! Fit and finish is quite good. I've probably put 100 rounds through her and find that I can't wait to get to the range again! This is one fun little gun. As with any BP gun, I clean mine after every outing and kind of enjoy the process. I've never had any problem with fouling at the range.... probably because I use lubed wads and Crisco to top it off. I only shoot real BP.

Accuracy is VG although I am still playing with different loads. I think the most accurate load is about 18 grains BP, wad, .454 ball and Crisco.

You'd be hard pressed to find this much fun in a gun for this much money, so if you're interested hurry before the sale ends.

Happy Shooting;)

[bigbadgun]

I have the 51 from the possible shop and the 58 from cabelas I love them both cant go wrong with either piece but for a beginner I would stay away from the brass colts until you get to shoot more. As a matter of fact I would stay away from colts at first and get the remmie stronger frame for a newbie. But either way both are great guns.

[madcratebuilder]

As a matter of fact I would stay away from colts at first and get the remmie stronger frame for a newbie.

I hate to see a new user being taught a Remington has a stronger frame.
The Remington uses the top strap for strength. The Colt uses it's arbor for strength. If kept in proper repair they are both have more than adequate strength. I believe the Colt Walker shoots the hottest load of any typical C&B revolver.

[mykeal]

I hate to see a new user being taught a Remington has a stronger frame.
The Remington uses the top strap for strength. The Colt uses it's arbor for strength. If kept in proper repair they are both have more than adequate strength. I believe the Colt Walker shoots the hottest load of any typical C&B revolver.
Absolutely correct. Very well said.