[A Tribute To] The **GLOCK 27**


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kashton
February 25, 2009, 04:30 AM
I have bought and sold 2 Glock 27s over the past few years and I just bought my 3rd G27 a few days ago. It is brand new, with the first factory round fired on January 8th, 2009.

I have been through so many Concealed Carry Handguns that I have lost track of them...Glock 19,23,17,22,27, Sig P239, Colt Python 2.5" Stainless Steel Revolver, Kahr MK40 Elite 2003, S&W 640, 642 with CT Grips...the list goes on and on... and it all finally comes down to this: I have finally learned my lesson:

I am sticking with the Glock 27!

The Glock 27 is my personal favorite CCW, and IMO, is the most effective pistol ever created for its niche. I use a Pearce +1 grip magazine extension and it feels rock-solid in my hand. I installed a set of XS Big Dot Night Sights on it and I LOVE them. They are my new top choice for CCW sights. I purchased a Crimson Trace Laser Grip for my G27 and I find it very functional and handy.

I use Double Tap 155gr. .40 S&W Self-Defense ammunition (Ballistics : 155gr. @ 1275fps / 560 ft/lbs - Glock 23 - 4.0" barrel).

So, here are some pictures just to show off my Glock 27:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/DonnieDarko545.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G272.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G273.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G274.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G278-1.jpg

I originally purchased a Glock 36 to carry, but have recently chosen to instead carry a Glock 27 as my Primary CCW.

THIS IS WHY I CHOOSE TO CARRY THE GLOCK 27 OVER THE GLOCK 36:

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DOUBLE TAP AMMO COMPARISON OF 155gr. .40 S&W [VS] 230gr. .45 ACP:

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Bullet: 155 gr. .40 S&W Speer Gold Dot JHP:

Ballistics: 155gr. @ 1275fps / 560 ft/lbs - Glock 23 (4.0" bbl)

DoubleTap .40 S&W Penetration / Expansion:
155gr. Speer Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"

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Bullet: 230gr. .45 ACP Speer Gold Dot JHP :

Ballistics: 230 gr. @ 1010fps / 521 ft/lbs - Full Size 1911 (5.0" bbl)

DoubleTap .45 ACP Penetration / Expansion:
230gr. Speer Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"

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Yes, if I had my choice, I would hit someone with a .45 230gr. Speer Gold Dot JHP from Double Tap Ammunition.

However, I much prefer 10+1 rounds of .40 S&W (with .19" less expansion) over 6+1 rounds of .45 ACP... and that is, remember, my opinion. The Glock 27 provides me 4 more chances to hit a vital organ/spine/CNS/brain compared to the 6+1 rounds carried in the Glock 36.

Then again, you could always carry a Glock 29 and get these ballistics:

165gr. 10MM Speer Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02" (Yes, that is over an inch of expansion!)

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kashton
February 25, 2009, 04:31 AM
NINJA WEAPON!

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G275.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G276.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G277.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G27CTC2046.jpg

kashton
February 25, 2009, 04:35 AM
11 Rounds of 155gr. .40 S&W Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point from Double Tap fit into this tiny pistol (They load their ammunition hot and the velocities prove it)

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G2711.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G2712.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G2713.jpg

GLOCK 27 MILT SPARKS VMII BLACK RH 1.5"

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G279-1.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G2710.jpg

BlacklabelOP
February 25, 2009, 04:38 AM
Get yourself a 1911.. Glocks explode

kashton
February 25, 2009, 04:43 AM
WOW. Good reply. Thanks. It is much appreciated. Maybe this will satisfy your urge for attention:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/KobraCarry002.jpg

My Ed Brown Kobra Carry Commander .45 ACP 1911. I own one and the Glock 27 is still my choice CCW.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/KobraCarry011.jpg

jocko
February 25, 2009, 04:50 AM
don't u love it when a 1911 fan comes on board?????

kashton
February 25, 2009, 04:58 AM
Oh, BlacklabelOP

In case you really can't comprehend a Glock 27 CCW fan owning an Ed Brown Kobra Carry:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/G19-23EbaySale016.jpg

Dorkfish
February 25, 2009, 05:21 PM
You're not the first one I've seen with a crotch-holster. Personally, I don't want any firearm pointed at my foot or my junk...loaded or not! Can't possibly be comfy when you sit. (is it?)

kashton
February 25, 2009, 05:24 PM
I'm sitting with it right now and it isn't uncomfortable at all.

Magnus1959
February 25, 2009, 05:28 PM
Get yourself a 1911.. Glocks explode
Another internet genius.:banghead:

kashton
February 25, 2009, 05:29 PM
lololol

azhunter122
February 25, 2009, 05:30 PM
1911's are better IMO but that's becuase I'm more accurate with them plus everything else! haha. If Glock is your gun then that's great my dad's the same way.

Lonestar.45
February 25, 2009, 05:55 PM
In case you really can't comprehend a Glock 27 CCW fan owning an Ed Brown Kobra Carry:

I can't comprehend those black grips on a Kobra Carry, that's what I can't comprehend. :confused:

kellmark
February 25, 2009, 06:13 PM
Why wouldn't you go with a laser max instead of the crimson trace. I have the laser max in my G26 and love it. The crimson trace seem to make the pistol much more bulky and it is on the side, not centered under the barrel. Is there something I am missing?

kashton
February 25, 2009, 06:55 PM
The only way I can answer the above questions is to say:

I am very satisfied with my current setup. It works for me. That's all I can say =)

MagnumDweeb
February 25, 2009, 07:09 PM
It's all about what works for you. I carry a revolver snub .357, yeah it's only six shots of hydrashock, but the idea is to train one's self to only need one, and be sure with two. I've contemplated getting a 27 but I like the 29 better. If I get into Glocks this is what I want

Glock 22 (with conversion barrels in 9mm and .357 sig, to be primarily carried in 9mm for that "put a lot of lead in the air" gun)
Glock 29 (with conversion barrel in .40)
and Glock 20 (leave the 10mm alone)

kashton
February 25, 2009, 07:27 PM
Exactly. Go with what works for you! =)

Maelstrom
February 25, 2009, 07:52 PM
Oh my God. That auto is so damned nice.......

The Glock is OK too I guess.

Since you like the Glock 27 so much, I'd be perfectly willing to trade my 27 for your Ed Brown. You can thank me later.

kashton
February 25, 2009, 07:59 PM
1. I already own a Glock 27.....
2. I know you're messing with me ;-)

UnTainted
February 25, 2009, 09:03 PM
Magnumdweeb, don't forget the 9x25d for the 29 and the 20 in your plans! ;)

Snowdog
February 26, 2009, 01:14 AM
I've always been impressed by the so-called "40 Short & Weak". Sure, I'm more of a .45acp fan myself and carry a 9mm (K9) the majority of the time, but without a doubt, the .40S&W has potential and plenty of merit!

CPshooter
February 26, 2009, 03:02 AM
Kashton-

Are you the guy who has pics floating around the web (google images/thefiringline.com specifically) with the H&K P2000sk and brown/black shark trim VM2? That black belt and your skinny frame look really familiar to me...what kind of belt is that btw? It looks nice.

I used to have a few Glocks, a g27 being one of them. It was a good gun for its purpose, but the .40s&w was a bit much for such a small and lightweight gun. I sold it to my cousin (almost NIB) for $350 just to hook him up and he says he'll never carry anything else. I also don't think a .40s&w round is any more effective than a good 9mm JHP for that matter, especially from shorter barrels...JMO though. I eventually grew out of my Glock stage and moved on up to H&Ks:) I shoot them much better and think they are much nicer guns overall, but again that's just my opinion. I've settled on a P2000sk 9mm (LEM) as my carry gun, after going through several just like you did.

Don't take it personally, but I'm not a fan at all of that Lasergrip on your Glock, or the rubber grip on your Kobra Carry. IMO lasers are overrated (unless you have older eyes from what I hear) and the Lasergrips do nothing but bulk up your Glock for almost no real benefit other than to have them. You should never rely on a laser for self-defense considering you can't even see the dot in broad daylight.

I do, however, think you have great taste in holsters w/ those VM2s! Don't know about that crotch-carry though. Especially with a Glock...yikes! A gun with a hammer allows you to verify nothing has snagged the trigger when holstering it. Shoving a loaded Glock in a holster while it's pointed straight at your nads is a terrible, terrible idea. It's only a matter of time until you blow off your nuts man!

(I don't mean for any of my comments to be offensive..I'm just throwing in my 2 cents. I'm glad you found something that works for you..but I was being serious about the crotch-carry.)

Throwingdown
February 26, 2009, 07:12 AM
Just recently purchased a G27. So far, this seems to be the CCW for me also. I may purchase a G26 for my wife....

crebralfix
February 26, 2009, 08:12 AM
Nice guns...both of them!

Regarding appendix carry:

1) How in the world do you come up with the notion that you can somehow STOP a hammer from falling if the trigger is snagged?
2) What are trigger guards for?
3) ALWAYS holster slowly and carefully. Nobody ever won a fight with a speed reholster.

theotherwaldo
February 26, 2009, 01:30 PM
I went for the G27 as well, with Pearce +1s, too. I switched to a LaserMax, though, as I tend to pocket-carry and the Laser Grip didn't look right for pockets.

There are a few other guns that I use for CC, but the G27 is my preferred garry.

kashton
February 26, 2009, 02:28 PM
LOL CPshooter I definitely know you from somewhere. Yes, those pics are mine and that is me. :cool:

CPshooter
February 26, 2009, 07:09 PM
Ahh I had a feeling it was you. So do you still have the P2000sk? You didn't like it? (If you don't do you want to sell me that brown/black VM2??? lol)

Regarding appendix carry:

1) How in the world do you come up with the notion that you can somehow STOP a hammer from falling if the trigger is snagged?
2) What are trigger guards for?
3) ALWAYS holster slowly and carefully. Nobody ever won a fight with a speed reholster.You don't stop the hammer from falling. You stop the hammer from drawing back in the first place (by placing your thumb over it) or visually verifying that it isn't moving while you slowly holster it. Ask the NFL star that just shot himself why he didn't make better use of his trigger guard (even though it wasn't a glock from what I read). I agree with your last statement, but if a drawstring, button, etc makes its way in your trigger guard it won't matter how slowly or carefully you holster your Glock. I say that because it has happened to people before.

kashton
February 26, 2009, 07:15 PM
I sold the holster a little while ago, as well as my P2000SK .40 LEM. I just like the G27 better. It's just me personal preference.

kashton
February 26, 2009, 07:25 PM
Just received a new black Milt Sparks VMII with Sharkskin Trim + Mag holster:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/SHARKSKIN026.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/SHARKSKIN036.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/SHARKSKIN0382.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/SHARKSKIN0392.jpg

CPshooter
February 26, 2009, 07:59 PM
Gotta love the VM2 holster..

You never told me what kind of belt that was!

kashton
February 26, 2009, 08:12 PM
Ah, sorry. It is a Sharkskin belt made by The Belt Man!

CPshooter
February 26, 2009, 09:44 PM
Thanks! Btw, I'm willing to bet that a lot of the "fluffy" people looking at your pics are sitting there thinking, "Damn, I wish I could conceal a gun that comfortably!" LOL. I'm 5' 11" and 180lbs so I'm not "fluffy," but I'm also not as lean as you. Your body-type and that VM2 are ideal for concealed carry.

kashton
February 26, 2009, 09:46 PM
You're welcome ;) I've had it for a long time now and I will buy from him again if he is still making belts when this one wears out, lol!

kashton
February 27, 2009, 03:11 AM
I actually find the CT Laser Grip to be comfortable and very natural feeling. It also guides my hand to the correct position because of the top right part (the laser enclosure) that sits right above my hand. This is just my personal opinion.

kashton
March 2, 2009, 12:07 PM
Just received a G22 Mag with A&G Extension for my G27 today:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/Glock270302.jpg

kashton
March 2, 2009, 12:44 PM
Here it is with the 10 round mag:

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/kashton/Glock27132DEFENSIVECARRYPROFILEPICT.jpg

surfinUSA
April 9, 2009, 09:19 AM
Kashton, I agree 100%. You can't find what I believe to be a better CCW gun than the G27 10 rounds of 40 in a gun that light, small and imervious to weather and sweat. just can't beat it. It may not be perfect but its close.

From the police shooting investigations I've been part of, I've come away believing that the 40 is better than the 9mm and the 45.

Unfortunately, by the time my department approved the Glock they standardized on the 9mm so I usually carry a G26 with ranger +P+ ammo. But given the oppertunity, I take the G27 any day. It will certainly be my retirement carry gun.

As a side note I am granfathered in with my SIG 220 in 45 but my G17 holds 18 rond as opposed to 8 and I can backit up with the 26 and both will use the G17 mags. Working in a suit I usually carry the G26 IWB backed up with a G17 mag. Of course you can also do this with the 27 and a G22 mag.

Sorry for the long semi thread stealing post.

kashton
April 12, 2009, 02:40 PM
surfinUSA - Thank you for the reply! Have you taken a look at the 147 gr. 9mm by DoubleTap? I use there 155 gr. .40 S&W and 230 gr. .45 ACP.

LINK - 9mm+P Bonded Defense JHP
Ballistics : 147gr @ 1135fps / 421ft. lbs. from a G17.
Glock 19 velocity - 1120fps. (http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_37&products_id=121)

kashton
April 12, 2009, 02:41 PM
12-01-2005, 15:41
Note: This data was posted by the owner of Double Tap Ammo. (TW)


Here are official gelatin results for all of the DoubleTap loads!

All of these tests were done using 10% ballistic gelatin provided by Vyse gelatin using all FBI protocols and 4 layers of denim and two layers of light cotton T-shirt in front of the gelatin.

DoubleTap .40 S&W Penetration / expansion
135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1200fps - 14.0" / .70"
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1100fps - 14.75" / .68"
200gr XTP @ 1050fps - 17.75" / .59"


DoubleTap .357 Sig
125gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1450fps - 14.5" / .66"

DoubleTap .357 Magnum
125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" / .69"
158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" .56"

DoubleTap 10mm
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
180gr XTP @ 1350fps 17.25 / .77
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"

DoubleTap .45ACP
185gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1225fps - 12.75" / .82"
200gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.25" / .88"
230gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"

DoubleTap 9X25
115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1800fps - 10.0" / .64" frag nasty
125gr Gold DOt JHP @ 1725fps - 15.0" / .74"
147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 17.5" / .68"

CountGlockula
April 12, 2009, 03:06 PM
Yup, G27 rules the world.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/G-27018.jpg

Pops 1
April 12, 2009, 04:48 PM
I carry a G27 daily.

Dan-O
April 12, 2009, 06:07 PM
I am drooling over that OD Green G-27. Very nice.

Here is mine:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/dantruesdale/100_3065.jpg

gb6491
April 13, 2009, 02:47 AM
I carry a G27 daily.
Me too :)
http://i41.tinypic.com/11gu6og.jpg
Regards,
Greg

eitrheim31
April 13, 2009, 04:54 AM
is there anyone on here who doesn't carry a 27 (i know i do)

CDW4ME
April 13, 2009, 05:16 PM
I carried a Glock 27 until my wife surprised me with a Glock 33 as a birthday gift. I now carry the 33.

The Glock 26/27/33 are the highest capacity, most controlable guns I can carry for most of the time. Typically all I need is a loose untucked shirt with my Kydex clip on holster carried just to right of zipper.

If I want a little less weight, or slightly more concealibility I carry a Kahr PM40 in the same location, in a Kydex clip on holster.

The "always" carry gun is a Kel-Tec or Ruger LCP, pocket carry.

L-Frame
April 13, 2009, 07:22 PM
I actually carry a J-frame revolver. The little Glocks are too bulky for me. BUT, I did own a glock 26 for a while so I could check out its carry potential(too bulky like I said) for me. I was astonished at that little pistol. If it would have carried better for me I would have carried it until I died. Extraordinary shooter for such a little gun. Super accurate, reliable, very little recoil. I can't say enough about that 26 except that it was just too blocky for me compared to my S&W J.

Coltdriver
April 13, 2009, 08:26 PM
I read some extensive exchanges between a gent who was the coroner in Atlanta for 13 years.

He made no claim to what he witnessed other than he did witness 13 years of real life shootings in Atlanta and he personally conducted the autopsies.

He said there were examples of every caliber making a one shot stop.

But he said the two that consistently did this and outstripped all others combines were .40 S&W and .45ACP. Just his two cents worth.

That little G27 is very cool and once you get the built in safety features it is indeed an excellent carry piece.

Deaf Smith
April 13, 2009, 10:47 PM
My carry guns are a Glock 27 with Glock OEM 10 shot mags, and Smith 642 Centennial.

My IDPA gun is a Glock 26 set up just like the 27. Same night sights, same NY-1 trigger. The 26, being in 9mm, is cheeper to shoot and I don't have to clean it after ever practice session (it's a competiton gun, not a carry gun.)

The only thing I'm going to add is a AACK .22 unit for the 26. That will allow .22 lr. ammo practice (like my Glock 17 is set up.)

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