[Rogelio]

Hi guys...yesterday I went to the movies with my girlfriend and while we saw 28 days later, my atention was caught by a film named "Bowling for Columbine"...The poster showed 10 bullets sitting to look like bowling pins and this guy with his video camera in one hand and a rifle on the other...I thought it could be interesting, but I read in the local newspaper that the movie was a documental about how dangerous it is to give guns to civilians.

Is the newspaper right?? Please tell me that it is not true....an ANTI movie...noOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:what: :barf: :eek: :mad: :uhoh:

[Black92LX]

wow where have you been man????? it's been through quite a few discussions. it's a movie full of falicy after falicy from a fat man that hates america. i get to be his personal assitant for the day when he comes to my university:evil:

[Henry Bowman]

Uh, yeah. Where 'ys been? Oh, I see. Lima, Peru. Well, search this forum and the Legal & Political forum for all you could ever hope to digest on the subject.

The idiot that made the film got an Academy Award for it as a documentary. There is a move to have it revoked because most of it was staged and false.

[Rogelio]

Sorry about missing all the discussion....the movie just arrived yesterday (it was the first show) and the paper rated it with 5 stars...

I AM REALLY MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hkmp5sd]

Don't waste your time or money. It's a fake documentary containing bogus statistics and choreographed scenes.

[Dilettante]

It might still be good if Rogelio sees it, in case he runs into someone else who saw it and thought it was true. :)

It might also be fun to go to the movie and heckle.
Does anybody have a "Lies in Bowling for Columbine" list we could give Rogelio beforehand?
One way to earn the undying gratitude of (US) Americans is to stand up for us abroad...

[Hkmp5sd]

The Truth About Bowling (http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html)

[Mark Tyson]

Can we send Moore down to Peru? He can chat with those nice, progressive Sendero folks or maybe the Tupac Amaru about politics.

PS so what are the gun laws like in Peru, anyway?

[Standing Wolf]

I don't pay money to have my intelligence insulted.

[Rogelio]

MArk Tyson:

Gun laws here in peru are really drastic...well, the only nice part being that you can legally carry as soon as you are 18! (Ok, go through the tests and pay top USd for a gun, but you CAN)

Top Caliber for pistol: .380 auto
" " revolver: .38 spl

No shotgun slugs, no other ammo that FMJ, no silencers, full-auto,no laser sights, in short..only useless calibers and nothing to dress your gun!

If you would like to have any particular questions about peruvian gun laws solved, please ask them, I will be glad to answer anything

[ed dixon]

Uh, on a scale of one to five I give it a scumbag.

[Doug S]

Interestingly, my intern told me just the other day that she & her mother had watched this movie. She knows my views on gun control & seems fairly reasonable on the matter. Her father is a gun owner. She went on to tell me that initially she had hesitated in watching the movie because she thought that it was anti-gun . She then said that although the first part of the movie might be construed as anti-gun, she thought that most of the movie was excellent (as did her mother). She felt this way because it had awakened her to a lot of history that she had not known about previously. I listened patiently, but not having seen the movie myself, had little to comment. I don't even really know what the movie is about, other than that it gives a negative impression of gun ownership. I hadn't planned on watching this movie, but may have to just to be able to set the record straight.

[Parker Dean]

I notice on the Time/Warner PPV ads that they're marketing it as a comedy and not as a documentary.

[Logistar]

I saw Bowling for Columbine last week for the first time. (I didn't pay to watch it.) I found it "worth watching".:scrutiny:

1. It's nice to know what these guys are up to.
2. It did get me to think. They did make some good points.

But things like... returning the Columbine bullets to K-mart made me sick - even sicker when K-mart agreed to stop selling ammo.

Seeing those kids loose in the school with no way to take them out made me sick too. (You know - schools = victim disarmed zones.)

I suppose I got the "wrong" message from that movie. The message *I* got was that we live in a "potentially" dangerous place and we should take steps to defend ourselves. (READ - CCW).

Logistar

[Ryder]

I saw on the CNN news ticker a couple days ago that MM is being sued for copyright infringement. BFC apparently used the "Bad Boys" soundtrack from COPS show without permission.

Have not seen a confirmation of this anywhere else. That should cost a pretty penny if true. Good thing he's rich. :D

[Bill Hook]

Top Caliber for pistol: .380 auto
" " revolver: .38 spl

No shotgun slugs, no other ammo that FMJ, no silencers, full-auto,no laser sights, in short..only useless calibers and nothing to dress your gun!

If you would like to have any particular questions about peruvian gun laws solved, please ask them, I will be glad to answer anything


So only the police, army and leftist guerillas can have good weapons. Makes sense to me. :rolleyes:

[Mark Tyson]

it had awakened her to a lot of history that she had not known about previously

Guys, a lot of the "history" in that project was seriously flawed to say the least. To give only one example, most Iraqi miiltary equipment came from Russia, France and China. Yet Moore explicitly states that Iraq invaded Kuwait with US supplied arms. Do your own research and then think about what Moore's presents as history.

I am not a rabid Moore hater, and some of the criticisms of BFC can be brushed off as the filmmaker exercising artistic lisence. But some of it is just flat out deception, and that's wrong. People trust you to tell the truth and I think Moore has abused that trust.

[Matthew Temkin]

I rented it a few weeks ago.
Even though nearly everything in it was skewed, I found it entertaining.
I did like his point how the media in this country is so into fear mongering.
The returning of bullets to k Mart would be very appealing to the emotional ignorant, and makes for effective propaganda.
I would have countered by asking if it makes sense to return the gasoline to Shell that was in the car operated by a drunk driver to run down a little girl?
And leaving the photo of a little girl who was killed by a playmate who obtained an illegal gun owned by a drug addict with Charleton Heston is silly.
Is the president of the AAA responsible for drunk drivers killing thousands each and every year?
It seems that when it comes to guns the media elite is immune from having to use facts, common sense and logic.

[Zedicus]

It seems that when it comes to guns the media elite is immune from having to use facts, common sense and logic.
Actualy I doubt that they Know what they are....
If they do know what they are, they obviously view them as something as "Evil" as they like to make guns seem...

[semf]

I don't pay money to have my intelligence insulted.

I don't know for sure ,But I heard that there is this site called KaZaa or something like that, where you can get stuff like that for free. ;)

(Be sure you don't allow sharing. Send the file to My Documents as soon as you are finished downloading. So I'm told.)

[Blain]

She felt this way because it had awakened her to a lot of history that she had not known about previously.


Like how the NRA and the KKK are one and the same.... :rolleyes: