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Tony50ae
February 26, 2009, 01:53 PM
I believe it won't be long till gun control is back on the table and with a vegeance. Just remember the last time the Dems had control. It took awhile to undo most of the damage to RKBA. This time around could be as bad or even worse. I will say this right now. If your not a member of the NRA or other group NOW is the time to join even if for a year or two. These groups need to swell in numbers and quickly to show Congress we gun owners will not stand by idly. Calling your congressmen or senator is also good. But I can recall how the NRA had its membership swell with new members during the Clinton era. We need for it to happen again.

Already a member? Great, how about your spouse if your married? I just purchased a membership for my wife. She is just starting to get into guns and I told her its important to be a member. She agreed totally. Don't like the NRA? Join another group. But I also urge you to join the NRA anyways just to get the numbers up there. Even if for just a year or two. We stand a lot to lose these next few years if we gun owners don't stand TOGETHER! I stated once in another thread awhile ago. Everyone thinks that the NRA is the 800 pound gorilla in the room but I say that it lost some weight and is not as scary as before. We need to get that gorilla back up there. 800 pound gorilla? Hell it should be more like a 2 ton raging elephant. Otherwise we as a whole will lose.

Also for the ones that could afford it, if your a member of the NRA, try to donate extra money from time to time.

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SwearNoAllegiance
February 26, 2009, 01:55 PM
I just read on the Drudge that the new AG and Obama administration will seek a new AWB.

everallm
February 26, 2009, 02:47 PM
The Drudge Report.........hmmmm

Before the hysteria reaches apoplectic levels, Looks like Mr Holder has been spanked vigorously by the White House AND the Hill


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-02-26.html

Quote:
Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban
By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.

Izaak Walton
February 26, 2009, 02:52 PM
Or...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

MT GUNNY
February 26, 2009, 02:56 PM
:rolleyes:Like I take Queen Pelosi word as truthfull!!

everallm
February 26, 2009, 03:12 PM
Izaak, keep on topic and temporally in order, your clip was what kicked off the paranoia and we now have Holder getting politically bi**hslapped by both the White House and the Hill.

TimRB
February 26, 2009, 03:54 PM
"Like I take Queen Pelosi word as truthfull!!"

Hold on there--I am not crazy about Pelosi, either, but I think this mostly points out the difference between a politician who is appointed vs one who is elected.

Tim

JColdIron
February 26, 2009, 03:58 PM
Doesn't mean we shouldn't write our congressfolk to inform them of our thoughts on this.

Holder just showed his hand early. That can cost you in poker as well as politics;)

Smithiac
February 26, 2009, 04:09 PM
Already a member? Great, how about your spouse if your married? I just purchased a membership for my wife.

Never thought about that its a good way to get our numbers up. The more the NRA is supporting the louder our voice is.

Thanks

Bill2e
February 26, 2009, 05:13 PM
Pelosi's comments scare me worst than Holder's

MT GUNNY
February 26, 2009, 05:26 PM
Quote "Hold on there--I am not crazy about Pelosi, either, but I think this mostly points out the difference between a politician who is appointed vs one who is elected."

Agreed, But don't Forget Who did the Appointing!

rickomatic
February 26, 2009, 06:49 PM
In case you guys n gals weren't aware, you can sign up a friend or reletive for as little as $10. They don't get a monthly magazine, but they are a member. If you want them to have a monthly magazine, it's another $25.
Less than a box of ammo.

Sign Up A Friend or Reletive to the NRA (https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/gift.asp)

12131
February 26, 2009, 07:11 PM
By everallm:
Before the hysteria reaches apoplectic levels, Looks like Mr Holder has been spanked vigorously by the White House AND the Hill
Are you really that naive?

jimbeam
February 26, 2009, 07:39 PM
If the White House was going to spank Holder, they would have made some statement, such as "no way, we are not going after your guns". No statement, in my mind, is a very bad omen. They are watching the fallout,we are being desensitized, then pounced on.

jcwit
February 26, 2009, 08:26 PM
Just watched Lou Dobbs.
Shall we rise up, or shall we stick our heads in the sand.

Lets enforce the laws.

Gardien
February 26, 2009, 09:59 PM
Rise up.

351 WINCHESTER
February 26, 2009, 11:33 PM
I kinda like being a citizen, but not as much fun as it used to be. Don't care much for being a subject though.

mija
February 27, 2009, 07:25 AM
NRA now offers lifetime membership at $25 now, 25 per quarter until the 750 is paid. This is a much less painful way to get a life membership.

Go to NRA-ILA, scroll down to contact a represenative, type in your zipcode. A list of all your elected officials will pop up. You can also contact them directly from this site. Couldn't be easier.

Take note of the Second Amendment March,www.secondamendmentmarch.com. They are now organizing a multimillion gun owner march in state capitols and in D.C. in the spring of 2010.
If you want to save your rights and avoid another revolution get involved.

Mija
Semper Paratus

PTK
February 27, 2009, 07:27 AM
The NRA can go jump in a river, for all I care. They're a damn joke.

GregGry
February 27, 2009, 07:30 AM
The NRA can go jump in a river, for all I care. They're a damn joke. And what exactly have you done for the RKBA?

Bailey Guns
February 27, 2009, 10:19 AM
The NRA can go jump in a river, for all I care. They're a damn joke.

Great. With friends like this, who cares if we have enemies like Pelosi, Holder or Obama? There's always someone willing to let the others do their work.

Back on topic: I'm not sure who I'd consider the bigger liar...Pelosi or Holder. I'm not gonna get really excited about Pelosi's remarks just yet.

TreyNC
February 27, 2009, 10:46 AM
Sounded to me like she doesn't like it because she was left out of the loop. And what about Holder who mentions fully automatic weapons and grenades in his spech, that the AWB doesn't include because they are already illegal. (I know the loopholes) But adding these to his speach gives the ignorant public the idea that every body with a gun has a grenade!

The NRA may not be as effective as we want, but it's a good place to start. I am going to start writing letters, e-mailing and texting (god forbid) regularly! When my son asks me in the future why didn't I do something about it, I can say I did. And I don't want to be one of those people who piss and mone but wont lift a finger and some times even vote.

The time is at hand, we can make a difference together!

Sorry for the rant I feel better now.

everallm
February 27, 2009, 10:58 AM
12131


Quote:
By everallm:
Before the hysteria reaches apoplectic levels, Looks like Mr Holder has been spanked vigorously by the White House AND the Hill

Are you really that naive?

No but plainly you are

When you get 2 out of the 3 arms of government smacking you down that's know as a career limiting move.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 27, 2009, 11:17 AM
Good reminder. Every USA gun owner who cares about keeping a right to own guns, should be a member of either NRA or GOA at at minimum, IMO. Or at least SAF or JPFO.

Tony50ae
February 27, 2009, 11:51 AM
Wow this thread took off pretty good. The idea of signing up wife occured to me out of the blue. She is getting into guns and also belives its not the guns fault for violence but the person behind it. I said to myself "self why not get her a membership too?" LOL. Figured hey how many other members here might be members of the NRA or other group and are married, and their spouse is into guns but not a member?

For the poster that said that the NRA can go jump in the river, well at least join another group. We gun owners gotta stand up together these next few years.

You know I use to be a member of SAF also at one time but let it lapse. How good is SAF now? Might have to join them as well.

PTK
February 27, 2009, 12:59 PM
And what exactly have you done for the RKBA?

What has the NRA done? The NRA-ILA, sure, but the NRA?

TimRB
February 27, 2009, 01:05 PM
"What has the NRA done? The NRA-ILA, sure, but the NRA?"

The NRA set up the NRA-ILA. The NRA is not allowed to do any lobbying directly.

Tim

Travis Bickle
February 27, 2009, 01:09 PM
NRA now offers lifetime membership at $25 now, 25 per quarter until the 750 is paid. This is a much less painful way to get a life membership.

GOA offers the same type of thing, but it's $500 and $50 per quarter.

Bailey Guns
February 27, 2009, 02:42 PM
What has the NRA done? The NRA-ILA, sure, but the NRA?

I'll take that answer to mean you haven't done anything yourself...other than b***h about the NRA, of course.

What you obviously don't understand is the NRA is basically a single issue organization devoted to education/training in the area of gun safety.

NRA-ILA is the lobbying arm of the NRA. The NRA-ILA is the organization that lobbies not only on the national level, but on state and local levels as well regarding all types of gun issues.

The NRA-ILA is directly supported by the 4 million NRA members. Imagine how much stronger it would be if people, like you, understood how important it was to be a member of the "parent" organization...the NRA.

22-rimfire
February 27, 2009, 03:10 PM
I wonder who Pelosi will blame things on in two years? It really bugs me how she plays the political game and than says she tries to be bipartisan.

12131
February 27, 2009, 03:45 PM
by everallm:
No but plainly you are

When you get 2 out of the 3 arms of government smacking you down that's know as a career limiting move.
Keep dreaming.

12131
February 27, 2009, 03:51 PM
by PTK:
by GregGry:
And what exactly have you done for the RKBA?
What has the NRA done? The NRA-ILA, sure, but the NRA?
So, you answer a direct question to you by deflecting it with a question. Are you a politician?:rolleyes:

everallm
February 27, 2009, 04:05 PM
Atta boy 12131, don't let them pesky facts get in the way of support for your argument.

jakemccoy
February 27, 2009, 05:48 PM
Who gives a crap if you don't like the NRA?

Just do something, anything, as long as you point your momentum in the right direction. Wasting energy arguing with pro-gun people is counterproductive.

Join the NRA, SAF, GOA or whatever. Write letters. Donate.

Just do it.

RevolvingCylinder
February 27, 2009, 06:05 PM
Izaak, keep on topic and temporally in order, your clip was what kicked off the paranoia and we now have Holder getting politically bi**hslapped by both the White House and the Hill.

Did you even read what you posted? The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

Pelosi may be one of Obama's handlers but she is not the President. She is only one member among 535. She's Speaker of the House, not the Press Secretary.

Reading is fundamental:
Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

Where does it say in there that there isn't one coming or that she opposes one. She merely said that she has not personally spoke to the AG or the WH about it. At most it can only be seen as her unwillingness to discuss a future AWB publicly at the moment. That's some "bitchslapping".:rolleyes:

She most certainly is an advocate of one and so is the WH. Their entire political careers proves it. Obama has never said that he opposes a new AWB. He only promised(during the campaign) that he doesn't want "to take away your pistol, rifle, or shotgun" which can be upheld by only allowing "sporting arms" to be kept at sanctioned shooting clubs since you'll still "have them".

Thanks for voting for Obama and thanks again for excusing for his administration's actions.:(

Keep in order, he says. Apparently we're not allowed to even disagree with what his beloved administration publicly announces. An agent of your administration publicly announcing that the administration is seeking to further violate our Second Amendment right is very much on topic for this forum.

everallm
February 27, 2009, 06:33 PM
RevolvingCylinder

Lets see, since 1994 we have had the AWB die and never get any traction on re-introduction, we have CCW in 48 states, we have Heller, we have cases in multiple jurisdictions to get 2A incorporated etc etc etc.

My God it's a plot I tell you, they're just lulling us into a sense of false security.

Get out of your paranoid denial

Since you were obviously asleep at the back of the class during basic Civics, heres a link to what the Speaker of the House has power over

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

If the White House and the Speaker disown statements of the AG then, and I know it attacks your closely held and fondled prejudices, it MEANS that they have no intention of losing power by supporting bills or laws that will cost them.

The words used are the same as when a diplomat says they have had "full and frank discussions" usually a prelude to airstrikes.


An agent of your administration publicly announcing that the administration is seeking to further violate our Second Amendment right is very much on topic for this forum.

A partial truth without factual rebuttal is very much off topic for this forum.

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