How do you guys feel about Olympic Arms ARs?


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aliasneo07
February 26, 2009, 09:01 PM
Do you find them reliable and a good buy? Not looking to spend more than $1200 and have pretty much settled on an Olympic Arms AR with a 20 inch barrel. Do any of you own them? Pretty reliable?

Also, what is this business with chrome lined bore vs non chrome lined?

First time AR buyer! Thanks for the help!

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mavracer
February 26, 2009, 09:30 PM
they have a bad reputation.but mine runs flawless and is very accurate it's a 16" CAR (not m4 copy)

Schleprok62
February 26, 2009, 09:54 PM
The bad rep came from a short run of weapons using cast lowers over 20 years ago... Their current stuff is good and their warranty is second to none... They use all the same stuff that most of the others are using...

Cheers...

The Plinker Plus is a great little fun rifle with better than average accuracy for an AR...

For the "purist" a chrome lining is a must have option... For those of us who don't expect to be plinking in a monsoon, or crawling through the swamps with our AR's it's not a necessity. Take care of it and it will run just fine either way...

outdoorman63
February 26, 2009, 11:42 PM
i had one that ran just fine,,

CZ223
February 26, 2009, 11:42 PM
and have been very happy with both. I have a heavy barreled 16" gun with free float aluminum forerend that used to be called the PCR16. It is more accurate than it has a right to be. With good handloads I am shooting right around 1/2MOA for 5 rounds at 100 and sometimes quite a bit under. The K8 Match Target with 20" barrel is just about as accurate. I like the shorter gun better. They are both very reliable with factory ammo but I have had a few problems with my reloads. I just bought a small base die to see if that will fix the problem. I believe it will.

taliv
February 26, 2009, 11:50 PM
it would be pretty close to the bottom of my list, which is to say, i wouldn't buy one unless it was the only thing available.

riflenut
February 26, 2009, 11:53 PM
hey there i to was looking to purchased a ar15 about two years ago. i started at the gun shows prices where between 780 to 1200 at that time.because my income dictates what i can afford,i shopped around. i found a new olympic arms 16"barrel 5.56 round ar15 plinker, i bought it for 668.00 with rifle case. i have had no problems at all. no jams , use wolf ammo and winchester brands.the fit and finish is just as good as other brands. they are one of the few brands that make all the parts for there rifles.

Runningman
February 27, 2009, 12:30 AM
I had one in the 80s it would work fine right after it was cleaned. But after about four magazines it would start to jam fairly often till it was cleaned again. Mine did NOT have a chromed line bore, chamber nor the inside of the bolt carrier bore chromed. Don't know if OLY is using chrome lined bores these days or not. But I would not buy an AR that didn't use chromed line bores after that experience.

FWIW I never did have a problem with the cast parts Oly used back than.

jerkface11
February 27, 2009, 12:58 AM
I've got an Oly 9mm. I wouldn't trade it for anything. In fact I think I'll SBR it.

possum
February 27, 2009, 01:13 AM
no thanks, they don't hold up well in training courses that i have seen.

Javelin
February 27, 2009, 01:14 AM
I am not a big fan of Oly arms.

rangerruck
February 27, 2009, 01:32 AM
... would be my last choice; lots of stamped stuff, lots of stuff poorly inspected, they will sometimes get parts, that are not quite milspec, but with poor inspection, they will slap it on anyway. I forget the name of their primary supplier for parts, but they are considered very cheap.

jerkface11
February 27, 2009, 01:51 AM
Anything that's wrong with it can be fixed with a new lower parts kit. If you're getting a good deal on it go for it.

aliasneo07
February 27, 2009, 02:01 AM
Crap sounds like I shouldn't have bought it, lol.

Sounds like most replies are negative.

Basically I wanted an AR for plinking and for HD. So I don't need super tight groups at 100 yards, I just need it to go bang every time I pull the trigger.

Does it meet at least that requirement?

Jerkface11, where might i find a lower parts kit, and what would be the advantage of using one?

Thanks!

Lloyd Smale
February 27, 2009, 08:38 AM
I owned two older ones and they were junk. the newer ones seem to be made much better though. Still for a cheap ar id look at something like a dpms sportical first. I just cant get over my past experiences.

taliv
February 27, 2009, 09:51 AM
Basically I wanted an AR for plinking and for HD. So I don't need super tight groups at 100 yards, I just need it to go bang every time I pull the trigger.

it may give you super tight groups at 100. i doubt it will go bang every time you pull the trigger. (unless maybe you only pull it 30 times or something then stick it in a safe for the rest of its life)

the lower parts may leave something to be desired, but it's the upper and carrier i would be concerned about

IndianaBoy
February 27, 2009, 10:47 AM
Previously the only experience I have had with them was online. Most opinions were negative, but how many of those opinions were from people who actually owned one.. who knows.


One guy I know who owned one never had a single problem with his.


I saw one come into a local shop that specializes in ARs. Something was wrong with it and it would go full auto. Uncontrolled, something is broken, runaway mag dump full auto. The sear engagement surface on the hammer was worn away to almost nothing.

That doesn't mean the lower parts were bad from the factory. THe guy had bought it used. Some garage gunsmith might have tried to give it a trigger job. The hardened surface of AR-15 lower parts is thin. If you polish through it, the softer metal underneath is much less durable.

KingTiger
February 27, 2009, 11:08 AM
They're a third-tier AR manufacturer.

mr.trooper
February 27, 2009, 11:59 AM
lots of bovine excrement from people who don't actually own.

Inexplicable, and un-elaborated comments like "it was trash" do little to help the man.

Harold Mayo
February 27, 2009, 12:09 PM
Don't worry about your Oly. It should do fine. Don't drink the Kool-aid. LMT, Colt, Noveske, etc. may put more QC into their rifles but it's certainly past the point of diminishing returns.

aliasneo07
February 28, 2009, 01:15 PM
Well whats the first and second thing to go on them, so I can preemtively order replacements? lol.

Anything special I should make sure is super clean?

Thanks for the tips.

steveracer
February 28, 2009, 01:53 PM
Their pistol caliber guns are awesome, and their barrels are fantastic. I used a barrel from their PCR-16 in a custom build. Most accurate AR I ever had, before I got out of them.
Steve

Conqueror
February 28, 2009, 02:03 PM
I would maybe buy an Oly if it was $500 and I couldn't afford anything else. $1200 for an Oly is insane, you can get RRA for that much, or Colt for just a bit more.

lead-inspector
February 28, 2009, 02:07 PM
I bought a Olympic Arms AR-15 A1 20 inch barrel in April 1994. I have used it in 3 gun matches, Tactical rifle matches and formal training with only one failure. I didn't properly torque the buffer tube after disassembly and it loosened up after a year of regular matches later. My fault not the gun. Over 12,000 rounds. You will be OK.

Steve

gidaeon
February 28, 2009, 02:26 PM
you'll do fine with it, shoot it and enjoy it. You can always upgrade the BCG later if you want to something higher up the chain or ever get concerned about reliability there. I say an Oly in your hands or locked in the safe is better than an invisible\imaginary Colt in your head.

krs
February 28, 2009, 03:36 PM
Conqueror, I'll take that Colt for just a bit over $1200. where is it? Is there more than one?:rolleyes:

taliv
February 28, 2009, 03:46 PM
there's a colt 6920 upper for $900 on arfcom EE right now.

you can get an essential lower for $100, parts kit for $70 or so and a tube and stock for $100. all you'd need then would be a BCG which is about $130

$1300 is a bit over $1200, but miles ahead of the oly

mordechaianiliewicz
February 28, 2009, 03:54 PM
I used to own one, and what I can tell you is that it is an excellent value for what your getting.

They tend to come in a couple hundred dollars under what other ARs do, but do about 95% or more of what the more expensive rifles do.

benEzra
February 28, 2009, 04:11 PM
How well you maintain it will probably have a lot more to do with the reliability you see than upgrading parts would. It should do absolutely fine if you keep it clean and well lubricated (they do not like to be run dry).

possum
February 28, 2009, 05:50 PM
hey there i to was looking to purchased a ar15 about two years ago. i started at the gun shows prices where between 780 to 1200 at that time.because my income dictates what i can afford,i shopped around. i found a new olympic arms 16"barrel 5.56 round ar15 plinker, i bought it for 668.00 with rifle case. i have had no problems at all. no jams , use wolf ammo and winchester brands.the fit and finish is just as good as other brands. they are one of the few brands that make all the parts for there rifles.
how many rounds do you have through it, how hard have you ran it, and how many courses has it made it through without issues?

MPCO
February 28, 2009, 06:24 PM
I've heard many mixed reviews of the Olympic Arms AR's. Like any other piece of equipment you're going to "bet your life on", you have to field test it first. Buddy just got rid of his Kimber 1911 because it consistently failed to feed. Another Buddy's Hi-Point 9mm is yet to fail him for almost 4 years of regular range time. If you get it, shoot it first!!! If it's consistent and reliable on the range, it'll be consistent and reliable at 3 A.M.;)

Just my 2 cents. If you're going to spend that kind of money, I'd also look at some other companies like Stag, Rock River and Smith and Wesson. I've seen all of them with models in that price range (that is of course if your dealer can keep them on the shelf).

sevin8nin
February 28, 2009, 06:48 PM
i'll never buy one. Seen too many with problems. But alot of people own them and enjoy them and don't have problems. So it's touch and go.

I saw one just the other week that was recent production. Came with one factory mag, and that was the only mag that would fit in it. Colt mags, or any other aluminum mag, did not fit, and neither did Pmags.

When the guy called Oly Arms to see about about what to do they told him to take a file to the mag well and just file it out....real great customer service.

I don't read horror stories about Bushmast, or Colt, or Stag, or S&W, or Rock River. But I do read horror stories about Olympic Arms.

If your price range is $1200, you can still get one of any of the above mentioned ARs very easily. Just don't go to a shop that's price gouging.

Harold Mayo
February 28, 2009, 07:54 PM
If you are buying an AR for the sake of owning one, Olympic is fine.

If you are really, truly going to be using it to defend your life or the lives of others, then you're probably going to be in a position to be issued something or where you can get a discount on the "upper end" brands.

Whatever you get, I'd get it now. If you DO shell out the money for the more expensive ones, you probably won't regret it. Worst case is that you'll be able to resell it and get most of your money back and then go buy an Oly and STILL have funds left over.

MJR007
February 28, 2009, 08:19 PM
WOW - oly no good??? I have nine DEAD deer with their 25 wssm upper. Rain, snow, 76F and they all fell down. My SHTF dog (pretty chessie girl) and I are enjoying some right now. BTW - never mind.

Javelin
February 28, 2009, 08:21 PM
WOW - oly no good??? I have nine DEAD deer with their 25 wssm upper. Rain, snow, 76F and they all fell down. My SHTF dog (pretty chessie girl) and I are enjoying some right now. BTW - never mind.

It is just a bottom of the barrel AR. There is still nothing wrong with it though.

:)

MJR007
February 28, 2009, 08:59 PM
Javelin, very interesting...

We (the dog and I) will think about your opinion while digesting and will respond after we CRAP.

I will agree there are better uppers on paper.

The flesh will no be impressed.

taliv
February 28, 2009, 09:29 PM
perhaps i should just put a longbow beside my bed instead, since i can kill deer DEAD with arrows

MJR007
February 28, 2009, 09:59 PM
Wzickey has done well by be. My dog will always hunt (I can only hope). I sleep confidently every night.

Javelin
February 28, 2009, 10:05 PM
Wzickey has done well by be. My dog will always hunt (I can only hope). I sleep confidently every night.

As you should. An Oly still beats the hell out of a stick.

;)
















(I hope you know I am just pokin at ya)

MJR007
February 28, 2009, 10:14 PM
Well we agree.

RedAlert
March 1, 2009, 12:37 AM
Well, I don't have a lifetime of experience with AR-15 clones. However, my Oly K16 is an excellent rifle.. I'm a retired machinist and I can attest to the quality of the machine work. Uppers and lowers are all forged. Not cast as once was the common practice. Fit and finish are excellent. No burrs, no extraneous machine marks.

So I suggest that many of the comments above are based on rumor and/or elitism.

Javelin
March 1, 2009, 12:40 AM
I thought that lowers and uppers are supposed to be machined?

RedAlert
March 1, 2009, 06:08 PM
Javelin, they are machined. Not all the features on a component need to be machined and can be left as forged. Take for example the half-round raised ridges around the mag release button. No machining necessary for that ridge, it is formed during the forging process, but the hole for the mag button has been machined.

Take a moment to look at their site:

www.olyarms.com

they have an area that discusses the differences between previously cast components and forged current parts.

wally
March 1, 2009, 07:07 PM
Their pistol caliber guns are awesome,

The idea of a 16" AR in 10mm intrigues, if spare 30 round mags actually end up for sale, I'd order one.

--wally.

Javelin
March 1, 2009, 07:43 PM
The idea of a 16" AR in 10mm intrigues, if spare 30 round mags actually end up for sale, I'd order one.

--wally.

Cut that barrel back about 9" and I would agree wholeheartedly.

:)

vector248
March 1, 2009, 08:34 PM
i have a oly, and it will eat anything (ammo wise) and always goes bang when i pull the trigger, somwthing i can't say about my bushmaster. would buy another without a second thought.

HOLY DIVER
March 1, 2009, 08:52 PM
i'll post this again for the 10th time or so lol between dad and i we have a few AR'S colt,dpms,double star,olympic,del-ton
the oylmpic and colt are the most accurate but all of the above shoot great nouthing badto say about any of them

Lloyd Smale
March 2, 2009, 09:29 AM
I had two of the older ones and thought they were junk but the last couple of newer ones i handled seemed like much better guns.

Kentucky
March 2, 2009, 01:51 PM
My first AR about 4 years ago was an Oly. Shot pretty well when I was plinking with it and shooting slow. It broke less than 300 rounds into my first training course where it was being fired hard. Got it fixed, but it seemed like every time I got it hot it would start having problems extracting or would break something else. I got rid of it and got something else.

I would venture to say that MOST people who own and are happy with Olympic are not using them hard at all. For something that you may use to defend your life, it is just not worth it.

I am by nature a VERY CHEAP person. I am tight with my money, I love getting a good deal, and I despise paying more for anything just because of it's brand. I buy my clothes off the internet at the cheapest prices I can find. I shop relentlessly for the best price I can possibly get on any purchase over $100. In short, I like a good deal.

I went through an olympic, a Model 1 sales, a hesse (and I am STILL ALIVE!), 3 Bushmasters, and a couple of mixed rifles before I finally quit trying to save money and realized that with AR's there IS a difference in quality and reliability between certain brands.

Now I think that with a Colt you definitely pay a little extra for the name on the side, but you also get a better rifle that I would be more likely to stake my life on. If that were the only option, I would do it. Fortunately, there are a few other manufacturers that produce top shelf quality without the extra markup for the Colt brand. LMT problably leads this group. I have replaced all my AR's with LMT/Sabres and by shopping carefully I have managed to replace what I had with better quality, using the money I sold my other stuff for.

Read the sticky in the archives here about "33 Ways to Cut Corners On Manufacturing an AR-15".

wally
March 2, 2009, 03:04 PM
If I need to hit small targets slowly I'll reach for the AR, if I need to lay down a volume of fire, I'll go for the AK every time.

I've heard of people melting the AR gas tube after a couple of C-mag dumps. I've seen the YouTube video of the guy shooting his AK so hard the handguard caught fire!

--wally.

Quiet
March 3, 2009, 05:12 AM
Olympic Arms makes lower recievers for Olypmic Arms, SGW, Tromix, Palmetto, Dalphon and Frankford.

lej
March 3, 2009, 05:42 AM
have 2, .40 and a 5.56, wouldnt get another, both are now in pieces , good barrels though ,they are bargain basement AR's. In most cases you get what you pay for.
For a couple of extra bucks RRA or a bushmaster would be a better option.

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