Compact, all-steel 9mm


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burnse
February 27, 2009, 04:00 AM
What's out there? Compact is key, but it doesn't necessarily have to be pocket sized.



EDIT: I also would like to go without a decocker. I like either a manual safety or no safety at all. And I guess I should change to say that aluminum frames are up for consideration too.

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Curiousity
February 27, 2009, 04:45 AM
Your question screams CZ P01....

http://lundestudio.com/wallpaper/cz-p01-hakan-left-hi.jpg

owlhoot
February 27, 2009, 04:52 AM
CZ has some nice all steel compacts. Check out their website.

SIG has some models that are all steel and compact.

The older HK P7 is a dandy compact.

Bersa has a compact model that is a lot of gun for the money.

My edc gun has been the all steel Kahr MK9 for the past several years. I love this gun, but it is a single stack and you may want a hi-cap gun.

armoredman
February 27, 2009, 05:00 AM
P01 is my personal choice for a CCW sidearm, but I see you asked for all steel? The best there, in my oh so humble opinion, is the CZ Compact. :)

Dirtpile
February 27, 2009, 05:11 AM
CZs are good but if that's not compact enough there is also Kahr. Namely the K9 or the diminutive MK9. The T9 if you need a longer grip without much expense of concealabilty.

MightyPir
February 27, 2009, 09:03 AM
Stoegar Cougar!!!

The Lone Haranguer
February 27, 2009, 09:19 AM
S&W 3913, if you like aluminum frames.

benderx4
February 27, 2009, 09:22 AM
The venerable HK P7M8 - best there is!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3194915617_ba2cfe1f3d.jpg?v=0

Evenflo76
February 27, 2009, 09:27 AM
+1 for Cougar, Stoeger or original Beretta. I had 1 in 40. Shot very well. Same manual of arms as the 92/96 series.

FiveFiveSixFan
February 27, 2009, 09:35 AM
Kahr K9 or MK9

skeptiq
February 27, 2009, 09:37 AM
+1 for S&W 3913
+1 for Stoeger Cougar

Also, S&W 669

I am looking for this type of gun as well...

D-Man
February 27, 2009, 09:43 AM
I was going to suggest the Kahr line.

I had a MK9 which was (to me) just about the perfect combination of small size and decent weight for shooting.

Curiosity - you may want to shrink that picture a bit for those without the benefit of 30"+ monitors! :what:

gotime242
February 27, 2009, 10:30 AM
New sig 380

http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sig-sauer-subcompact-380-pistol.jpg

Pilot
February 27, 2009, 11:06 AM
All steel or just not polymer? The CZ-75D PCR and P-01 are alloy framed compacts. I prefer them for carry due to their lighter weight. However, as others have mentioned, CZ also makes fine all steel (steel frame and slide) Compact models.

The P7 is a great choice also.

Kingcreek
February 27, 2009, 11:58 AM
been considering this myself.
anybody, how does the Kahr9 compare to the sig 239 in size/concealability?
I currently carry a G23 and was thinking of 239 in .40

SsevenN
February 27, 2009, 12:04 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/SsevenN_photo/Firearms/RAMIloveposterversion2.jpg

UnTainted
February 27, 2009, 12:11 PM
Kahr MK9 9mm+p
6+1 rounds, or 7+1 rounds (depending on mag). Smooth "DAO" trigger with no other safety or levers besides slide release.

http://i11.tinypic.com/4qqy5hk.jpg


I also really really like the Sig p239, if you want a compact pistol that won't go in the pocket, but shoots and performs like a full size pistol. The 239 does this, the MK9 does not.

LightningCrash
February 27, 2009, 12:35 PM
EAA Witness Steel Compact 9mm Wonder-Finish, 2005+ model

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2366/ea420031.jpg

$400 or so, but IIRC you'll need to go to a gun show to find a good holster.

possum
February 27, 2009, 02:43 PM
i agree get the kahr, k-9. they are good to go, accurate enough, and reliable as can be.

broken
February 27, 2009, 04:29 PM
if i couldnt find a s@w 3913 ,or 3 digit 2nd generation i would say star firestar m43/40 in 9mm or .40,best bang for da buck.

Jed Carter
February 27, 2009, 05:21 PM
Although it has a decocker, the SIG P239 would be my choice. It is DA/SA, exposed hammer, internal, no external safety and the decocker comes in handy when the shooting is over, no accidental discharge lowering the hammer on a compact firearm. And it shoots fantastic.

CWL
February 27, 2009, 05:25 PM
Kahr MK9.

Unfortunately, the P7/PSP or the P7M8 do NOT make a good pocket gun because of their weight. These pistols are extremely heavy for their size and will cause your pants or jacket pocket to sag and print. I've tried, but these pistols need to ride on a belt to carry properly.

grimjaw
February 27, 2009, 05:32 PM
Kahr K9 is a good choice if you can master the trigger.

CZ PCR is also a good choice for a "traditional" DA/SA.

Those are the only two I have extensive personal experience with, having owned both at one time or another.

jm

ps. Forgot the Star BM, had one of those, too. Nice pistol, just a severe lack of spare parts and magazines.

jocko
February 27, 2009, 05:42 PM
buy the MK9, nothing smaller in all steel. top quality throughout. Great gun, All American made if that means anything, but just a super gun. If u want it's brother the litest of lite. buy the PM9, same size, just 14 ounces. Mine only has 18.700 flawless rounds through it. Nothing better for in the front pocket. All the guns mentioned above are great guns bu tonly one IMO will ride in ur front pocket and that is the MK9 or PM9.

Nathanael_Greene
February 27, 2009, 05:44 PM
Star BM.

Dollar An Hour
February 27, 2009, 06:15 PM
Kahr K9 or MK9, S&W 3913 or CS9, CZ RAMI.

pogo2
February 27, 2009, 06:51 PM
I would also vote for the Kahr MK9 or the slightly larger K9.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/KahrMK950.jpg

TIMC
February 27, 2009, 07:09 PM
I just bought a Kahr MK9 Elite03 and love it! The little gun is a fantastic shooter and very accurate.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/KahrMK9Elite.jpg?t=1235776112

Anna's Dad
February 27, 2009, 07:18 PM
If you're OK with aluminum & steel and have more money than I do, the Rohrbaugh R9 is pretty slick.

distra
February 27, 2009, 09:39 PM
CZ P01, PCR, or 75 Compact! Best bang for the buck!

Ghost Tracker
February 28, 2009, 04:07 PM
The 9mm steel-framed Kahr models (MK, K, T) are liked by almost "everybody" who buys/shoots one. They're just a shade heavy but that's not all bad when you're shooting hot (125 gr. +P) 9mm ammo out of a small handgun. Make sure the trigger is a Kahr Elite model. If that still doesn't suit you, send your Kahr off to Cylinder & Slide for the Custom Kahr Package. You'll be deee-lighted!

verdun59
February 28, 2009, 04:28 PM
Cz rami !

KevininPa
February 28, 2009, 04:32 PM
Double stack or single? DAO only or DA/SA or SA only? I have a CZ 75 Compact, all steel frame and slide, double stack at 14 rounds, DA/SA. It suits me but maybe not you. It is heavy, but it's lighter than the tools I carry every day so it's nothing to me. You may want something smaller. Depends on what suits you.

poilu
February 28, 2009, 08:34 PM
star firestar m43

earlthegoat2
February 28, 2009, 09:45 PM
Kahr K9

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