Problems Loading my new S&W M&P 45


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4Freedom
February 27, 2009, 04:32 AM
Hi, I just got my new handguns today and I am real excited. However, I am seeing a bit of a problem with my S&W M&P 45. When I load the magazines to their capacity of 10 rounds and I attempt to insert the mag into the gun, it won't go. It sounds like its bumping into something and it just feels like it won't fit. I don't get this at all. However, when I load the mag up with only 9 rounds of the .45, it fits just fine. I know however this gun has a 10+1 capacity. Can anyone give me any advice what to do to remedy this problem? I am a bit irritated about this.

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4Freedom
February 27, 2009, 04:36 AM
After fighting with it a bit, I finally got the mag to connect, but it was a pain. Is this common amongst new guns or new mags that have been loaded to their capacity? It was weird because it snapped right in when not filled to capacity.

RON in PA
February 27, 2009, 04:42 AM
Are you loading with the slide back or forward? The slide should be locked in its rearward position when loading.

Snarlingiron
February 27, 2009, 07:18 AM
Are you loading with the slide back or forward? The slide should be locked in its rearward position when loading.

Shouldn't matter. Yes it will be easier to get in with the slide locked back, but in a real world situation, this may not be possible, and it is not necessary under any circumstances.

You are feeling the spring tension of the fully loaded magazine against the bottom of the slide. Perfectly normal. Pretty much all autoloaders are this way, with large cartridge guns being more noticeable.

As with most new gun owners you are most likely very gently sliding the magazine up into the weapon. The best thing I can tell you is that this ain't your Grandpa's prized pocket watch. You should slam that magazine into the weapon like you are trying to break it. Trust me, you can't.

Your next post will likely be along the lines of "the gun won't go into battery when I manually operate the slide, but it works great when I fire it."

Same deal. Rack that slide aggressively, and let it fly. Don't ride it gently forward.

Good luck, and enjoy your new M&P. Great gun. Get some professional instruction and shoot a lot.

dave from mesa
February 27, 2009, 07:52 AM
You should slam that magazine into the weapon like you are trying to break it. Trust me, you can't. Same deal. Rack that slide aggressively, and let it fly. Don't ride it gently forward.
+1 for both of both of these and the whole post.
Don't be afraid of hurting the gun.

cAlvis
February 27, 2009, 08:11 AM
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Are you loading with the slide back or forward? The slide should be locked in its rearward position when loading.
Shouldn't matter. Yes it will be easier to get in with the slide locked back, but in a real world situation, this may not be possible, and it is not necessary under any circumstances.

Guns were designed to be loaded with the slide locked back. However, this is not always possible in real world. Most guns just take a firm slap to lock a full mag in. Others may take a little more force.

++ on not handling the gun gingerly.

4Freedom
February 27, 2009, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the advice.. I gave the magazine a good whack and push and it fits right in there. I have been shooting these guns without any problem and had no problem loading the 9mm version of this gun. I guess the .45 is a bit more touchy when fully loaded, but I think I have figured out the trick. Being a new gun owner you tend to baby your guns, but I realize guns were not meant to babied.

Hungry Seagull
February 27, 2009, 04:25 PM
Abuse it! My first racks were gentle baby steps.

But that Recoil makes a hell of a rack back and slam in the next round.

Screw it... rack it and ride baby!

Now with a thought to your gun, try 9 in magazine.

Slam it in there. Dont forget to do a little tug to be sure it's in there.


Oh yea, watch out, it will PINCH you if you aint out of the way! Heck, I dont recall my spouse pinching me that much during dating... hmm.

Eschaton
February 27, 2009, 04:37 PM
Hate to hijack the thread, but if I am going to purchase the M&P .40, should I take the same thing into consideration?

Hungry Seagull
February 27, 2009, 04:59 PM
The 40's are higher in cracking sound on fire.

The grips on the 40 conceal is going to be very short for some people to hold in two hands.

I opted for a full size 45 because I can hold on to it better than a 40 among other things.

MT GUNNY
February 27, 2009, 09:49 PM
You dont "Have to" have the Slide locked Back when Inserting Mag. Push hard it will go and it will get Better in a couple Weeks.

Check this Thread out it will help also; http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=429411

gglass
February 27, 2009, 11:54 PM
It's a Smith & Wesson M&P. Don't treat it like a nickel plated sissy-pistol. Force the mag home... You won't hurt the gun, and it will get easier as the parts lose their new gun tightness.

You will see these threads quite often on the mp-forums, and the answer is always the same... "slam it home".

gglass
February 27, 2009, 11:57 PM
Oops... double tap.

The Lone Haranguer
February 28, 2009, 10:22 AM
This is pretty common with fully loaded magazines against a closed (as it would be if you just chambered a round) slide, worse with higher capacity, double column mags like this. Slam it in. When reloading, the slide will typically be open (locked to the rear) and it will be much easier.

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