If you could own 1 handgun and 1 rifle...


Hoot Gibson
February 27, 2009, 01:28 PM
1 handgun for self defense/ home protection and one rifle for general use and were on a $1000 budget{I know, that would be hard} what would you purchase?

{no I'm not looking for a sales pitch, just some honest opinions}

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Attila The Killa
February 27, 2009, 01:29 PM
Glock 9mm

February 27, 2009, 01:30 PM
Too easy. I've got a Ruger GP100 stainless 6 inch and SKS:)

I'd also go with some others below who said 357 magnum revolver/lever rifle combo: the GP100 and a companion lever rifle like a Marlin 1894C or Puma 92 in stainless.

February 27, 2009, 01:31 PM
Do you own any firearms now and you're asking out of curiosity about people's personal opinions or are you looking for input for a first gun?

If this is the latter then you really need to first find out what points naturally for you first. That way you'll be more accurate, able to handle recoil more comfortably and enjoy your shooting experience better. You wouldn't want to try to learn/use a bicycle that didn't fit you?

If you're looking for a single long gun, many will advise getting a shotgun. Relatively inexpensive, readily available, configurable for hunting waterfowl, turkey, deer as well as able to handle home defense roles. Alternately, a rifle in 30 cal-ish will fill many practical roles as well as HD.

Hoot Gibson
February 27, 2009, 01:34 PM
60 year old ex Air Force/Vietnam Security Police...I've got enough{these days does anybody have enough guns or ammo?} of my own...just curious, plus my youngest son probably will have to move out of state to get a decent teaching job when he finishes his Masters this summer....I'm thinking a useful Graduation present...if you get my drift?

February 27, 2009, 01:38 PM
308 bolt and a 45 auto

February 27, 2009, 01:45 PM
A Yugo underfolder AK-47 and Police Surplus Glock 22 (if they are unlikely to carry), Taurus Millenium Pro (OK both ways), or keltec (if they are likely to carry). Exactly $1000 here.

February 27, 2009, 01:49 PM
I guess you'll have to find out whether the points a 1911, Beretta, Glock or CZ frame semi, or a revolver, the best. Once you find that out you can decide whether to purchase new or used to stay in your price range.

I've not had any problems with CZ75-format semiautos. They point for my wife and my buddy (which means they don't point naturally for me), but I like them just the same. I have a 70 series Colt Combat Commander that I haven't had any trouble out of (you shouldn't out of a 30 year old handgun). I also have a couple of SA ParaOrds that have been champs for me. Another buddy points a 92FS and owns the Taurus clone of the Beretta. He's had good luck with it. I know plenty of folks with Glocks that never complain about them. Others own the S&W M&P and brag on the accuracy, ergonomics and reliability.

Boba Fett
February 27, 2009, 02:00 PM
For me, I'd go with a Savage 10FP LE1, 20" heavy barrel in 308 and a Baby Eagle in 45 or 9mm.

I've seen the Savage for $575 and you can get the Baby Eagle for under $500. Both NIB.

Of course, accessories like scopes, extra mags, etc. will run you more and probably break your $1000 budget with ease.

If you had to stay with your $1000 budget, accessories and all, I'd say get a non-LE model Savage or Remington in 308, a $100 scope (I know, it isn't going to be the best "sniper scope" in the world, but probably sufficient), the Baby Eagle in 45, and several spare factory mags.

February 27, 2009, 02:09 PM
glock 19 or 21 (or a nice 1911A1) and an Ar-15 !

February 27, 2009, 02:10 PM
Colt 1911 and an AK-47

February 27, 2009, 02:13 PM
cz p-01 or sp-01

marlin 336

February 27, 2009, 02:16 PM
Glock 9mm or 45
AR-15 or 308 Bolt

February 27, 2009, 02:30 PM
Considering the budget of $1000, I would suggest a used Beretta 92FS, a used 870 pump, and a SKS. I know this is three, but I generally feel a man needs three at a minimum. Rifle,Shotgun,Handgun. If you go with used, all three should fit in the budget with enough left over for some ammo or a used marlin mdl 60 .22:)

February 27, 2009, 02:30 PM
:cool:simple - Glock 17 and Kel-tec Sub2000 w/ Glock grip - both fun to shoot and mostly for the convenience factor of magazine switch capabilities . pea nut butter and jelly time ??

February 27, 2009, 02:37 PM
2.5" S&W Model 19 (or 66) and a Marlin 1894C both in 357 magnum.

emory d
February 27, 2009, 02:54 PM
Considering the budget, I would go with a used Beretta 92 and a Golani. Both are available, reliable and tough as nails. I happen to own both and I would be happy with both in a SHTF situation.

February 27, 2009, 02:54 PM
+1 for the 1894c/revolver combo!

February 27, 2009, 02:57 PM
9mm glock,Semi-auto Marlin Camp 9mm Carbine rifle. You aren't gonna be bragging about long shots on Bambi or become king of the snipers but the money you will be saving will let you buy anything in few years.

February 27, 2009, 02:58 PM
1911,Winchester Defender 12 ga and an SKS.

February 27, 2009, 03:01 PM
AK and any of the 500-550 price range semi-auto handguns

February 27, 2009, 03:24 PM
Handgun for self/home protection = Glock 23 if he's a shooter; 4" GP100 in .357 if not.
Rifle for general use = Remington 700 in .308 or .30-06.
You could buy both second hand and still have $$ for ammo given a $1000 budget.

February 27, 2009, 03:33 PM
I would go with a build it yourself AR, with a .22lr conversion kit, and a 9mm of any flavor. (that is any good and fits the budget)

February 27, 2009, 03:35 PM
1. Colt 1911 - 45ACP
2. AR-15 - .223

February 27, 2009, 03:55 PM
Big difference between a hunter and a non-hunter. For a hunter, it depends on the game.

February 27, 2009, 04:15 PM
Staying under $1000.00 will make it tougher, but a 1911 and a .308 would be my choice of calibers.

February 27, 2009, 04:30 PM
One handgun - 9mm or .45, can't decide. I don't like your question. :p

One rifle - impossible. Like many who already posted I'd pick a .308, but I want something left of the squirrel after I shoot it. So I think I might switch my vote to a .22lr, but who wants to eat squirrel all the time?

February 27, 2009, 04:51 PM
Don't know what you want to do with your purchase (other than defend your house). I would get a Glock 17, 9mm for the pistol. You can still find them used online at different shops for resonable prices (about $400). Then for the rifle, I would go with a Remington 870 pump shotgun with the Rifled Slug Barrel. This should leave you with enough left over in your $1000 to get a few extra magazines for the Glock, an extension tube for the 870, a rail for the 870, a cheap Red Dot and shotgun ammo (buckshot, birdshot and slugs). With these two firearms you can protect your home in almost any situation and you can hunt pretty much any large/small game. All for under $1000.

February 27, 2009, 05:08 PM
S&W 629 Classic 44mag+Ruger 77/44 mag......both stainless....

February 27, 2009, 05:22 PM
Again.. the question is a bit vague.

Home defense hand gun? Semi auto or revolver? Revolver if there are no kids in the house and mama's not a shooter. Point and pull the trigger. Anyone can do that. So, I'd go with a Ruger SP101 with some 38spl Remington Golden Sabers in it. It's a great carry gun. If there are kids in the home, 1911 45acp with a full mag but not one in the pipe. Racking the slide get's most intruder's attention right quick and most little ones can't pull the slide back to load it.

General purpose rifle? First I thought a lever gun in .357mag.. (same ammo as the revolver) But then, everyone should own a 30-30. A Marlin 30AS runs cheaper than a 336. The venerable 30-06 could be argued as the most versital cartridge available and certainly fits the 'general purpose', so then again I go with Marlin XL7 Bolt action rifle. But, the suggestion above is sound, as a pump shotgun would be quite nice and a Mossberg 500A or Remington 870 Express would still keep you in budget too.

So the question back at you would be, Is the 'giftee' more of a birdie hunter or a red meat hunter?


February 27, 2009, 05:42 PM
.......or a ZOMBIE hunter?

February 27, 2009, 11:08 PM
Hoot Gibson clarified: 60 year old ex Air Force/Vietnam Security Police...I've got enough{these days does anybody have enough guns or ammo?} of my own...just curious, plus my youngest son probably will have to move out of state to get a decent teaching job when he finishes his Masters this summer....I'm thinking a useful Graduation present...if you get my drift?

Hi Hoot,

Thanks for your service!

Only you know what type of person your son is . . . a rugged outdoors type who loves to hunt and fish, a computer nurd who isn't into guns, whatever.

However, I'll give you two suggestions . . .

1. If you two are close and he loves guns, consider giving him one of YOUR favorites that he's always loved. It may mean more to him now than after he inherits it (assuming we are allowed to still own guns then). Heck, you may be able to take care of both guns this way . . . and it would be very, very special to him!

2. Try to get an idea of what he likes and then go that direction. For my boys, this has worked out well since, like many in their generation, they have dreamed of black polymer bottom feeder handguns. Thus, at a certain age I gave the first two each a Glock Model 23 in .40S&W.

Both guns were lightly used trade-ins that looked truly new, and both were purchased after patient searches. I also gave them Bianchi Minimalist 105 leather belt-slide holsters, extra magazines and a few hundred rounds of ammo. Both sons were in their mid-20s at the time . . . a time when young men don't have extra money for ammo. Heck, what good is a handgun without ammo? I also made 'em get CCW licenses first too . . . a good idea, IMHO.

The third son is soon to get his own too but, like his dad, he loves revolvers! I quietly got a nice, nickle-plated S&W Model 19-5 for him (1982 vintage) in great shape . . . only to find out he's hoping for a vintage J-frame.;)

No problem . . . I'm now looking slowly to find a nice, vintage Airweight and the M19 will make good trade fodder . . .and I'll come out a little ahead too, of course!


Go nice but used!
Give 'em something THEY will want and cherish
Make 'em go "legal" by getting training and their Concealed Carry licenses

RIFLE? Again, consider the son and what they might want.

There are a LOT of fine choices out there!


Big Bill
February 27, 2009, 11:16 PM
Ruger New Vaquero in .45 Colt and a Marlin 1895 .45 Colt. Half of what he needs to do Cowboy Action Shooting.



February 27, 2009, 11:57 PM
Handgun would have to be a .25 auto

Rifle would be a 10 gauge Super Goose Marlin - Thatís a 34 inch barrel if you were wondering

Why you ask? Simple none of you picked either.

February 28, 2009, 12:02 AM
CZ75 and a Service Grade Garand from CMP.
If you go used on the CZ you should be able to fit this in the budget.

February 28, 2009, 01:30 AM
One pistol or revolver would be a .454 Casull Ruger Alaskan for self-defense against Big Bears within state parks during hikes. One rifle would be a .243 Winchester for actual, practical hunting. I'd still like a few more calibers because I'm an American. cliffy

Bill of Ojai
February 28, 2009, 01:33 AM
30-30 and a 4" barrel .357 magnum.

February 28, 2009, 01:53 AM
I'm not much of a hunter, so if it had to be...

One handgun: A Smith 442. Maybe the best all-around compact concealeable weapon, if you had to pick ONE.

One rifle: An AK47: The top choice of pi$$ed-off guerilla-fighter zealots world-wide. Who am I to question that?


February 28, 2009, 02:49 AM
For me as simple and flexible as possible: .357 revolver and a 12 gauge pump. Revolver can shoot light .38 for my wife. Shotgun can double as HD and with slugs for dropping game. Alternatively a Glock would make the best choice in a semi-auto because of it's utter simplicity in breakdown and repair and ease of parts availability. Any bonehead can detail strip a Glock-- I know because I am a bonehead. By the way, thanks for asking this type of question, as I think it brings out the most interesting posts from a wide variety of posters.


Steve A

February 28, 2009, 03:28 AM
Either way,


February 28, 2009, 05:25 AM
Glock 9mm

Mainly because that's what I already have and like

texas bulldog
February 28, 2009, 10:30 AM
it sure seems that some of you didn't read the budget part of the question, especially those of you suggesting a colt-brand 1911 and an AR. i'd love to know where you think you'll find both (and remember that colt was specified) for under a grand. hell, the 1911 alone will cost that. and in today's market, so will the AR, most likely.

February 28, 2009, 10:33 AM
AR in 223, and my PT1911... easy choice to make.. and last time I checked, a 10 gauge was a shotgun, not a rifle... of course, if I had to choose one gun... it'd probably be a simple single shot 12 gauge, but that wasnt the question.

February 28, 2009, 10:35 AM
DPMS AR, and Taurus PT1911.. after some shopping, and before the election, those could be had under a grand.

February 28, 2009, 04:05 PM
Used 30/30 lever (maybe 300-400) and a decent used DA revolver (should be able to do this under 500).

February 28, 2009, 04:07 PM
Who sets up the rules here, anyway?

OK, I'd take a Walther P5 for the handgun and a Ruger 10/22 for the rifle. You just can't miss with either choice.

February 28, 2009, 04:10 PM
Rock Island Armory 1911 .45 -$385.00.Good used Mini 14 $300.00.Maverick 88 12 ga shotgununder $200.00.This leaves $100.00 for ammo.

February 28, 2009, 05:40 PM
NEF in 30-06 and Thompson Center Encore in .22 LR.

That way I would only have one handgun and one rifle. I could buy a boatload of barrels. The current configuration would cover everything from mouse to moose.



February 28, 2009, 07:53 PM
If the shotgun counts as a rifle,

S&W M&P .40 full size
Remington 870, preferably one with Remchokes if you can find it for $500

Otherwise I'd get a remington 700 instead of the 870, but I find the shotgun more versatile due to the variety of loads you can get in a 12 gauge shell.

February 28, 2009, 08:17 PM
For $1000 I can get a ya a 870 pump gun 12 gauge , a good Savage 110 deer rifle and a police returned Glock

February 28, 2009, 08:18 PM
Colt Delta Elite and 75,000,000 rounds of 10mm ammo.

February 28, 2009, 08:23 PM
For $1000, I would have to go the shotgun and handgun route. A shotgun is just so versatile with the array of barrels out there with enormous power to boot. So My short list is this:

Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 (NIB ~$300), and a 26" skeet barrel with variable chokes, 22-24" rifled slug barrel with mounted rifle sights, and a 18.5" HD barrel. This should all cost about $500 at most if purchased smartly.

As far as handgun, this is way too subjective to determine. But with $500 that leaves options pretty open. You can get anything from an LCP to a big boy revolver or even cheaper 1911's. And that's not including the used market.


February 28, 2009, 08:32 PM
Ruger P-Series, Weatherby Vanguard.

February 28, 2009, 09:18 PM
Glock 19 & SAR-1

Ben Shepherd
February 28, 2009, 09:22 PM
1000 total for both guns limits you greatly. At that point, if I had to buy both, it's be a 357 revolver with a 6 inch tube and an SKS.

Go to 1500 though and it's a whole different game.

Then it'd be the 357 and a bolt 30-06 with a decent scope.

February 28, 2009, 10:42 PM
7.62x51 FN 98 Mauser scout and 1911A1 .45 acp. but, I do love my rocklocks.


March 1, 2009, 12:30 AM
HK .45 Mark 23 Socom - Navy Seal model w/ slide lock, wetware, and ballistic carry bag. Absolute dream pistol and would love to shoot one!

Blaser LRS 2 or Tactical 2. This would be like shooting a very rare Stoner conversion to me.

March 1, 2009, 12:45 AM
1 handgun for self defense/ home protection and one rifle for general use and were on a $1000 budget{I know, that would be hard}

Some of ya'll aren't even trying.

March 1, 2009, 12:51 AM
You know your son and his interests. I would choose firearms that fit his interests. If he shoots or has shot and owns no firearms, I'd say get him a 22 rifle and ... either a Glock (9mm or 40S&W) or 38spl revolver depending on what he likes.

March 1, 2009, 10:43 AM
Revolver and lever action rifle, both in the same round (357 Mag, 44 Mag, 45 Colt). That way you have close in and medium distances covered, and don't have to worry about which box of ammo to grab.

Another alternative would be a Glock whatever and a KelTek sub 2000 in the same round .... then you could have loaded mags and grab whatever and go to work.

Brian Williams
March 1, 2009, 10:51 AM
Wait til after hunting season and watch the local gun shops and you can find a good Rifle for much less than cost, I got a Win Model 70 Compact Classic in 7mm-08 for $399 with a junk scope in Leupold rings, I got a Leupold 3x9 for $275.
I have a S&W 581 that I picked up for around $400
Rifle $675.
Handgun $400
A little bit more than $1000, but doable.

The Swede
March 1, 2009, 11:00 AM
For that budget a brand new Ruger P90.
I'm not a big AK fan but an AK. Probably a WASR, it will keep you within budget.

March 1, 2009, 12:18 PM
Marlin 30-30 and an SP-101.
The rest goes into a good holster, ammo, speedloaders.

1000 total for both guns limits you greatly.

Not really.
People have budgets. They also need to be well defended.
A new stainless GP-100 goes for a bit over $500, leaving you about $450 to find a serviceable rifle. IIRC, a new CZ-75 variant goes for about the same price. IIRC, a new SP-101 .357 (my personal favorite handgun of all time, EVER!) sells for just about $500 new.
Can you honestly not find a serviceable, useable rifle in your area for $450?
If not, I'd like to introduce you to the Marlin 336. ;)

And if you do a little used shopping you'll even have money left over for a holster and some speedloaders.

March 3, 2009, 07:45 AM
M16 .223
Walther P99 9mmP

I would not let the $1000 hold me back...

Hoot Gibson
March 3, 2009, 10:41 AM
Great answers gang...I was away for the weekend and just got back. I have taken your suggestions serious.

The youngest son is not a computer geek, albeit in his profession, High School History Teacher, he is computer literate. He stands at 6'4" about 240...but like anybody else, I believe in protecting yourself, without looking for trouble{and have tried to instill that in both sons)...hunting? Not so much these days, we come from a family of hunters and fisherman, but now are content to drown worms rather than hunt for food or sport{although with the coming economic crash, I may have to go back to rethinking that}.

Having said that, thanks again, I appreciate your input, and at the Fort Wayne Gun Show this weekend will be looking for bargins to test my $1000 limit theory. Will let you know what I come up with. These "gifts" will be for completion of his Masters Degree at Wright State University.

March 3, 2009, 05:17 PM
My choice would be a S&W 686-1 in .357 & an AK47. I would throw in a REMI 870 if I had a choice in a shotgun.

March 3, 2009, 06:12 PM
S&W 686+ .357 6" and 30.06 bolt. Trying to do that under 1,000.00 would be a trick so a very good shooter .303 Enfield may need to supplant 30.06.

March 3, 2009, 06:41 PM
Ar and a glock 9mm.

March 3, 2009, 06:47 PM
ruger mini 14 or dpms lo pro classic... with a ruger 22/45 6inch bull barrel pistol

March 3, 2009, 07:08 PM

1) Saiga .308. This will serve in self defense, hunting, and, general use.
2) Sig/Ruger/Glock/CZ/Hi-Power in 9 or .40 any will do.

Add a few hi cap mags for the saiga and handgun.

March 3, 2009, 10:37 PM
Taurus PT100 in 40S&W for home/self defense. I've never been a fan of plastic and my brother can't seem to make his jam or misfire. For something as a concealed carry/home defense or if he isn't a "shooter" Taurus 686 in .38+P. Can't get more simple than pull the trigger six times, reload, then repeat. The .38 is widely available, has mild recoil decent stopping power, and is cheap to plink with.

Remington 700 SPS in 30-06.
He can hunt and target shoot on the cheap. The 30-06 can take almost any game in the united states. If he so desires aftermarket parts are everywhere...so regardless of the flavor he likes he can convert it to whatever he wishes- target/hunting/tacital

As a plus-you'll still have a $100 for ammo and extra mags, sling, bipod, etc...

All right Go USAF.
I'm active duty and loving it.
Thanks you sir for your service.

March 5, 2009, 07:46 PM
I would spend $600 on a Taurus Judge

August 20, 2009, 01:12 PM
I would say keep it simple, especially if he stays anywhere near Ohio. Taurus "The Judge" is a very versatile and impressive revolver. I love mine, nothing like shooting .45 Long Colt and .410 birdshot through the same revolver. Throw in a Puma 45 Long Colt Lever Action Rifle and only buy the .45 Colt ammunition! Even stays just under the budget brand new.

August 20, 2009, 01:26 PM
First, I'd buy used. I'd go Bersa Mini 40 or 45, Weatherby Vangard or Marlin XL7 .270 or 30-06, AND Mossberg 500. No sense in buying new when a good used gun will work.

August 20, 2009, 01:33 PM
XD45 5" Tactical = $400

Ruger M77 .270 w/ scope = $800

Oops, I went over budget. Too bad, the rifle needs a scope.

August 20, 2009, 01:34 PM
Id say a Remingtom or Mossberg Shotgun(assuming thats ok) and a SA 'loaded' 1911

August 20, 2009, 01:42 PM
Ruger MK II -.22lr ($250) I have had the one my dad went halves with me on for 27 yrs. I would get a Marlin mod 60 ($150)for a matching combo to bring us up to the $400 mark Then use the remaining $600 on a really good shotgun or CMP Garand.

August 20, 2009, 01:57 PM
Used Glock 17 - $400
Walmart special Savage 10 .243 with cheap Bushnell scope - $375
That leaves $225 for belt, holster, sling, and cleaning supplies, but don't forget to factor in ammo and a better scope and rings down the line.

August 20, 2009, 02:43 PM
M1 Garand, service grade - $595 from CMP

Glock 20, 10mm, "blue label", at LEO Price - $420.

They'd work, on that budget.

August 20, 2009, 03:59 PM
HK USP 45 and Springfield Socom II

August 20, 2009, 06:14 PM
My choice would be a Stainless Steel Ruger GP100 with a 4" barrel. Durable, relaible, and flexible.

To keep the price tag under $1000, my choice for a rifle would actually be a shot gun. Shot guns are about a versatile of a gun as you can ask for. Under $400, I would go with a Remington 870 or an 887. Durable, reliable, and flexible.

August 20, 2009, 06:27 PM
1000 budget? A little tough...

Keep it simple and reliable i suppose...

1911 .45

These two will keep you under 1,000 and extremely reliable.

August 20, 2009, 06:43 PM
M1 Garand with McCann gas nuts ~$650 total with rifle from CMP and nuts from Brownells
S&W Model 10 or 64 ~$290 shipped and with ffl transfer from J&G Sales in AZ

August 20, 2009, 06:55 PM
Saiga 308 and beretta m9?

August 20, 2009, 07:17 PM
.357 Magnum Revolver with a 4" barrel (probably the Taurus Tracker I currently own) and a Marlin 1894C .357 Magnum levergun. Although I never expect a true SHTF situation, having the same ammo requirements for both guns would be an advantage.

August 20, 2009, 07:50 PM
either way would cost you about the same (or roughly). depends if you like revolver versus auto.

Ruger GP100 (gently used) and Howa 1500 .223 or .308

S&W 4516 .45 auto, and Howa 1500 (either caliber)

Erik M
August 20, 2009, 08:03 PM
Taurus PT92 in 9mm, and a Mossberg 500. alternatively a 1911 and a Rem 870. I think common pistol caliber and shotgun are a definite necessity.

August 20, 2009, 08:20 PM
+1 35Rem . . . but I would suggest Marlin 336 in .30-30 and a S&W Model 66. . . I've got many more and generally carry a P239 Sig, but for all around utility/hunting/shooting you are hard pressed to beat a .38 revolver and a 30-30 rifle.

August 20, 2009, 09:22 PM
-edit- Duh, forgot about the $1000 budget thing.

My SIG P6 and Gew 98 fit the sub-$500 mark quite well. I'd probably look at a Mini 14 or WASR-10 to go along with the P6 in terms of assault rifles.

August 20, 2009, 09:31 PM
My Kimber SIS 1911 45 ACP and a Fulton Armory FAR.308 Titan.

August 20, 2009, 09:32 PM

August 20, 2009, 09:34 PM
My Beretta PX4 and my Mossberg 500 fits under $1000

August 20, 2009, 09:52 PM
Ruger or buckmark .22 and a AK47

August 20, 2009, 09:59 PM
yeah about 60% of the posts are wwwwwaaaayyyyy over 1000 bucks for a pair of guns more often than not it wouldnt even take care of one of the guns. dont know what he is into but id pick a glock 19 or 23 and a ak variant (5.45 would be good as he could practice with it more often or 7.62x39 variants for those who want the POOOWWWEEERRR).

August 21, 2009, 02:24 AM
gp100 and ak47

August 21, 2009, 02:52 AM
... on a $1000 budget ... My choice would be one of two combos:

* my Marlin 336 in .30-30 plus a .22 revolver with a 4" to 8" barrel

* my Marlin 39 in .22 plus a revolver in either .357 mag or .44 mag (larger caliber more desirable as one moves west and north)

My reasoning. The smaller caliber takes small game for food. The larger one takes medium game and serves for home or camp defense.

Only one long gun to transport on foot, with the other carried in pack or holster.

August 21, 2009, 06:29 AM
1) Rock Island Arsenal M1911

2) Hungarian AMD-65 (AK-47 variant)

August 21, 2009, 06:35 AM
scoped Saiga in .308 w folding stock.
HK P7M8 9x19

less militaristic:

Sporterized K98
K frame .357 S&W

August 21, 2009, 11:37 AM
My Glock 21 which I paid around $485 for, then it'd have to be my SLR-95 which I paid $389 for back in 2000. Now it'd be much more expensive. But this'd be under the $1,000 mark.
If I had to buy new today for under $1,000, it'd still be a Glock 21, but for a rifle I'd look hard at a Remington 7600 carbine in .30-06 which run around $550, it'd be close to the $1,000 mark if not slightly over. A runner up for the pistol would be a Glock 23 and the rifle would be an SKS.

August 21, 2009, 12:46 PM
Too easy. I've got a Ruger GP100 stainless 6 inch and SKS


Try for a Norinco SKS, btw. The Yugos weigh a ton and don't have the Norinco's chrome bore. One thing, though, a .22 keeps one from starving. Small game is a way more more reliable food source than larger game.

August 21, 2009, 01:57 PM
Whoa! Zombie thread! The OP's last post on this thread was back in March, and he was headed to a gun show to see what he could find.

Hoot, you out there? Whatcha settle on?

Haven't changed my mind from my first post. Used is the way to go. Noting that the handgun is for self-defense and the rifle is for general purpose, and looking at the prices I paid for second hand firearms in this category, I'd still opt for:

4" GP100 in .357 ($350) OR Glock 23 ($425)
Remington 700 in .30-06 or .308 (got a pristine BDL in .30-06 with Redfield 3-9X scope for $450)

Even buying the Glock you have over $100 left for ammo.

August 21, 2009, 02:00 PM
A Glock 19 and an AR variant -- no contest, for me.

(Used Glock and home-built AR using used parts, due to budget constraints -- tight, but it can be done.)

August 21, 2009, 02:05 PM
+1 on the Glock 19 and the AK.

August 21, 2009, 02:27 PM
Ufortunately Ohio's (and my state of Indiana) have the following hunting regulation:

Gun Season and Youth Deer Gun Season: 10 gauge or smaller shotgun using one ball or one rifled slug per barrel (rifled shotgun barrels are permitted when using shotgun slug ammunition); or muzzleloading rifle .38 caliber or larger; or handgun with 5-in. minimum length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger, or longbow, crossbow (draw weight limitations same as for Archery Season). Shotguns cannot be capable of holding more than three shells.

Unless he is headed East or West, the rifles do not have much of a purpose. A nice shotgun is always handy though.

August 21, 2009, 02:51 PM
OP asked about a rifle. If that's not an option, either a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 with a couple of barrels would be the ticket. Definitely a smoothe-bore vent rib with removable chokes, and likely a rifled slug barrel with cantilevered scope base. If you still have cash, add an 18-inch bead-sighted cylinder bore. Should be able to find one with at least two of the three for well under $500.

August 21, 2009, 04:39 PM
I'd go used due to the tight budget.

For pistol 45 ACP in either Glock or Springfield XD.
Personally, I'd want a shotgun before the rifle and go w Moss 500.
Per original post, if shotgun not allowed, for rifle either lever action 30-30 Marlin or bolt action .308 Rem 700.

August 21, 2009, 04:56 PM
The Rifle:
P.O.F. P415 6.8spc w/ 18" barrel (http://www.coldwarshooters.net/images/205.JPG):evil:
Adequate for all North American big game, and the two legged varmints too.

The Handgun:
Ed Brown Special Forces LR (http://www.edbrown.com/images/handguns/SFLR1.jpg):evil:
The mother of all 1911s. It'll operate until the Battle of Armageddon... and beyond.

August 21, 2009, 05:19 PM
The Rifle:
P.O.F. P415 6.8spc w/ 18" barrel (http://www.coldwarshooters.net/images/205.JPG):evil:
Adequate for all North American big game, and the two legged varmints too.

The Handgun:
Ed Brown Special Forces LR (http://www.edbrown.com/images/handguns/SFLR1.jpg):evil:
The mother of all 1911s. It'll operate until the Battle of Armageddon... and beyond.

Wouldn't either one of those alone exceed the $1000 spending limit, let alone both? (...even used.) :confused:

August 21, 2009, 05:37 PM
a Smith 3' model 13 and a Colt A2.


August 21, 2009, 05:41 PM
Wouldn't either one of those alone exceed the $1000 spending limit...

Oh quite handily. Each is pushing 3K, but I just can't resist.:evil:

August 21, 2009, 05:41 PM
You can't go wrong with a 308 bolt action and a Ruger 22lr pistol. The 308 is good for big game and varmints.the 22 covers almost everthing else

August 21, 2009, 05:46 PM
Oh quite handily. Each is pushing 3K, but I just can't resist.:evil:

Beware the man who refuses to play by the rules. :D

August 21, 2009, 06:17 PM

See post #75 of mine.:D

I really tried the first time around, but missed by a little.:o

The second time around, I missed by a mile!:evil:

How about that! My post count is .30-06!!


August 21, 2009, 06:23 PM
Yep, I didn't see that you'd already posted.

If you shopped around enough you might could get into those two, well-used, within the budget of the question.

August 21, 2009, 06:27 PM
CZ 75 w/ Kadet kit+ Ruger 77 in .308. Right about 1K. Joe

August 21, 2009, 06:42 PM
1 handgun for self defense/ home protection and one rifle for general use and were on a $1000 budget{I know, that would be hard} what would you purchase?

Colt 1911

Bolt action 22WMR

August 21, 2009, 06:53 PM
My Tikka T3 Lite Hunter in 270 Winchester (430.00 at WallyWorld) & My H&K USP Compact in 40S&W (520.00)

August 21, 2009, 08:06 PM
I haven't read through all of the posts so perhaps someone has already said this, but I would choose a Marlin 1894 and a Ruger Redhawk. Both have rugged, dependable actions and are chambered for the same ammunition. They can be used equally well for hunting and self-defense (no CCW with the Redhawk, though).

August 23, 2009, 06:21 PM
M1 Garand from CMP for $595 and a used M9 or Sig buy back. that is if ammo is not a concern. Ofcourse the garand can be modified to take most commercial .30-06 ammo and 9mm isnt too bad on the wallet.

August 23, 2009, 07:10 PM
Out of personal taste my choice would be a M1A and a H&K USP .45acp.While I enjoy many types of rifles including the FAL and AR the M1A is my fav for fit/accuracy /ammunition.

The USP is very user friendly for me being left handed,it is .45acp,and it just looks friggin cool.:cool:

August 23, 2009, 09:35 PM
Sigma , 30/30 and a 12 pump

August 23, 2009, 10:28 PM
Sig P226 in 9mm. And a Swiss Arms Carbine. (yeah, you guys can't get that wonderful thing I think...) :D

August 24, 2009, 10:24 AM
Depends if I was paranoid and believed the end of the world or of society as we know it. If it was for defensive purposes, and possibly a small amount of survival, the choice is easy. A decent 357 magnum revolver and an AK variant in the 7.62x39 caliber. The AK, with SP loads, equals a good 30-30 which makes for a decent hunting gun. (Yes, I went deer hunting with one and it was quite effective). The 357 magnum revolver is the best all around caliber and handgun. Much less to ever go wrong with the revolver. Ammo is totally abundant in both 38 special and 357 magnum. And the varying ammo allows as weak as a 380, through the 45LC/ACP. Except for hunting calibers, there isn't another caliber of traditional hand guns that can do something on the high or low side that a 357 magnum revolver can't do. And this absolutely nothing to do with preference. It's a fact.

Now; if the reason for only having 2 guns was a law, and nothing to do with survival or a breakdown in society; or if it was because of financial reasons; my choices would change. For a rifle, it would be a 7mm remington magnum bolt action. It is the best all around hunting rifle caliber. Small enough for varmints with a 110 grain bullet, all the way up to moose and such with a 180 grain. And it can shoot further than most people can see. Even with a scope. There isn't one animal in all of North America that can't be taken with a 7mm mag. As for a handgun, I'd probably go with my SigSauer P220 45acp. Being we aren't talking survival, I wouldn't need the handgun for hunting or any use other than self/home defense. And personally, I believe the P220 to be one of the most reliable and dependable pistols ever made.

But I can't reiterating that if a survival or societal breakdown was part of the equation, that the 357 magnum revolver is the most logical handgun without exception. The ONLY advantages any other caliber or gun has over a 357 magnum revolver is not caliber related. It's things like more rounds in the magazine, smaller weapon, easier to carry, price of the gun, etc... When it comes to the caliber, there isn't one single other caliber used as a common handgun that can compete with the 357 magnum revolver. It can be small or big. It's the perfect handgun.

August 24, 2009, 08:40 PM
id take my Saiga 7.62x39 and my Stoeger cougar 8000 9mm.

Hoot Gibson
August 26, 2009, 12:36 PM
Since I started this thread and somebody asked:

He settled on a .39 S/W Special Model 10 blue snubbie An oldie but a goodie...I also gave him one of my .22 Marlin Rifles. Since he remained in Ohio{found teaching work here} these should fill the bill for now.

August 26, 2009, 06:05 PM
Way too hard of a question...but, if only one of each, and I'd be using it for hunting and home defense, survival, concealed carry, etc; it would probably be my Beretta 92FS and my Keltec Sub2000 which uses Beretta 92 Mags. That way handgun and long gun would use interchangeble ammo and magazines.

el gato
August 26, 2009, 08:04 PM
k98, single six (.22)

August 26, 2009, 11:33 PM
Hoot, thanks for the follow-up!

August 27, 2009, 06:37 PM
I want to change my answer. For the pistol, if I could have one it would be the one I chose already as my primary shooter/carry gun. The M&P 9C. Mine has been carried for a few years now and shot thousands of times. It still looks and shoots like the day it was new. I have no reason to believe it wouldn't outlast me.

For my one and only rifle, I would choose a Remington Mdl 700 in .308.

August 27, 2009, 07:44 PM
M1 Garand and Colt M1911A1 for me.

August 27, 2009, 08:29 PM
CZ-P07 or P01 and a 527 carbine in 762x39mm

I'm a simple man, what can I say. Park a 1.5-4x or so ontop of the carbine and call it done.

NewBee Gunowner
August 27, 2009, 08:36 PM
I have been on the same mission lately. I just purchased a CZ P-01 as my first gun :), and am leaning toward a Savage 10FP for my rifle. What do you all think?

August 27, 2009, 08:58 PM
My fn-fal .308 and my little Ruger MK II .22 pistol.

August 27, 2009, 09:48 PM
A 308 bolt-action rifle (Remington 700 or similar) and a Makarov. The Makarov, while uninspiring, is a decent all around pistol, and inexpensive enough that one can spend money on a better rifle.

August 28, 2009, 02:04 PM
A semi-automatic .308 (Kel-Tec RFB or HK 91) and a solid 1911 (Dan Wesson perhaps?)

August 28, 2009, 02:11 PM
hmm, I really disagree with most of these posts.

The money should be spent on the handgun.

The handgun is what you have with you all the time, the rifle is for... EXTREMLY limited application.

and when it comes to bolt guns, a 300 dollar savage will do most of what a bolt gun should do.

I think, the pistol should be 2/3rds of the $$$$.

so for me, <since this is what I have chosen myself>

CZ P01 pistol $450,CT lasergrips $199, and Ruger 10/22 customized as you see fit.

Fun plinker and CCW.

August 28, 2009, 02:12 PM
1911, no brainer.

August 28, 2009, 02:43 PM
Mauser actioned .30-06 and a 4" DA .357. With the right handloads, the rifle is good for anything from small game to moose, and the sixgun from small game to self defense.

August 28, 2009, 02:58 PM
my Beretta PX4 9mm

Mossberg 500 (2 barrels 24" multi choke barrel, 24" slug barrel)

August 28, 2009, 03:33 PM
Keep it simple, 40 cal high point pistol and carbine.clips are interchangeable,and 30 bucks gets 100 rounds.both guns can be bought for around 500.00.at 100 yards the carbine will throw a good group out of the box! If you like a revolver, sp101 357 and lever gun in same caliber.that will come closer to the grand limit you set but will serve you well.stock piling ammo in the same caliber just makes sense.if you don't plan on ccw, the gp100 in 357
would be great.

August 28, 2009, 04:23 PM
C'mon, y'all. If you want to keep playing long after the OP's question was answered (and he has now replied with what he purchased), at least try to stick with his parameters:
1 handgun for self defense/ home protection and one rifle for general use on a $1000 budget.But as far as I'm concerned, this one has run its course.

August 28, 2009, 04:51 PM
jericho .40 s&w and a rifle- doesn't matter what one to me, but you didn't list it's primary purposes.

August 28, 2009, 05:07 PM
Springfield XDM in 40 is the handgun.

Savage scout in 308 is the rifle.

August 30, 2009, 07:39 AM
Springfield Armory M1A and Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911.

Hoot Gibson
August 30, 2009, 08:09 AM
Newbee Gun Owner: If you feel comfortable with the choices, they have to be AOK...just enjoy them, learn how to use them properly and practice, practice, pra.......

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