cylinder timing issues with a .44 cal.conversion


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mtn hunter
February 28, 2009, 02:09 PM
I have been a .44 Rem. c&b shooter for many years. I am considering the Kirst or R&D conversion kit,however, I worry about the fit and even more, the timing of the cylinders rotation for perfect alignment to the barrel. Is this
a frequent problem?:

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scrat
February 28, 2009, 02:23 PM
i bought my r & d conversion drop in cylinder. when pulling back the trigger it seemed to lign right up. i took it out to the range the way it was and shot a good 40-50 rounds no problem. So then i was pretty happy with what it was doing. I later on took it to the gunsmith to have other work done to it. The gunsmith looked over the timing and did not do anything to it. It was right on with both cylinders. The cost to get them both aligned was cheap though 40.00. So even if you have one that matches out of the box its still goood to get it looked at

mtn hunter
February 28, 2009, 02:48 PM
that's good news, and hope I see the same results. As you might agree, this timing issue should be check first thing out the box. $40.00
is reasonable cosidering the cost of regret.

sundance44s
February 28, 2009, 03:26 PM
I`ve had some timeing issues with the Kirst cylinders in new pistols ...but with the R&D cylinders never a problem ....The ratchets on the R&D cylinder are more like the ones on the cap and ball cylinders ..
The Kirst cylinder because the back plate doesn`t move with the cylinder rotation ..the ratchets are a different design .
I have 2 Kirst conversion cylinders
and 4 R&D`s .
I have never had the issues with the Kirst when used in a well worn revolver ...only in a out of the box new revolver ....It seems once the hand gets worn from use , the problem just isn`t there ..
I have fixed the indexing problem by reshapeing the hand on the new revolvers . The problem was over indexing because of the hand not fitting the groves on the Kirst cylinder .
This happened once on a New Uberti Remington and a new Pietta Remington .
Both companys offer fitting when needed ...I just don`t care for sending my toys out for repairs .

scrat
February 28, 2009, 03:28 PM
Very true. i did call up my gun smith when i got it. What he told me was this. first with the old cylinder in the gun look at the action when pulling back the hammer in all spots. Then see how it goes into battery. Then take out the cylinder and put in the r&d if it does not perform the same way bring it in. Next when in battery take a range rod with the correct size cleaning jag. then put it down the barrel it should drop all the way to the back of the cylinder. if it gets hung up at all bring it in. So after trying this on all cylinders i was pretty sure i was good to go. i shot a couple of rounds then checked for fouling then just kept shooting. This was on a Uberti Walker. my next gun i want to get a kirst conversion with loading gate is for my 1858 pietta. that one i am going to take in so it could be ported and re blued. and also checked on the timing.

mtn hunter
February 28, 2009, 04:02 PM
This was my thoughts exactly with Kirst vs R&D cylinders. I feel more comfortable with the R&D design, rather than the stationary back plate. Any problems with the cylinders being bored out at slight angle to accept 6 rounds, or does R&D offer a 5 shot cylinder?

scrat
February 28, 2009, 04:14 PM
you need to check. which gun are you getting it for. they offer a wide range and are a good product. i am very happy with mine for my walker. i would just love to also have a loading gate. The drop in cylinder is awesome though 6 shot

mtn hunter
February 28, 2009, 04:27 PM
Getting it for my remington (pietta)

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