Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm Compact


February 28, 2009, 10:46 PM
Ok I am a little confused I went to the gun shop today and looked at M&P compacts. I thought these were DaO and the clerk confirmed this. He handed me the gun with an empty mag and the slide back I looked confirmed no rounds and dropped the slide. I asked him if I Could dry fire and he said sure. So I pull the trigger short sweet pull. Then I go to pull the trigger again.......nothing. First the pull seemed awfully short and light for DaO and shouldnt it have re-engaged the striker/hammer again on the next pull or does the slide have to rack for this to happen.

I have gotten used to my CZ-75 p-01. It has a decocker and I fire the first round DA then its SA after that. Thats the safety on the gun dropping it to DA. So why would any one carry or have a M&P with out the safety if the trigger pull is that short in DA.

Forgive my ignorance I used to be a revolver guy and they are just plain simple the CZ is my first Auto. So I probably just dont know enough about the M&P

By the way what do you guys think of the gun and what do you think is a good price. The shop had it for $599 before tax and fees I have a friend that can order it in to his store and get me out the door tax and all for $535


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February 28, 2009, 11:01 PM
IF you can get for that price I would be all over it it's my ccw gun very good in all areas

February 28, 2009, 11:07 PM
535 is a great price. I'm about to buy one for 525, but with tax that'll come out to 560 or so i think.

February 28, 2009, 11:12 PM
The M&P is double action only like you were told. The gun has to cycle (shoot or rack the slide) after you pull the trigger for the next pull to release the striker/firing pin.
I have not ever thought that the M&P had a short pull, about the same as a glock-maybe a little shorter.
Decent price on the gun, not a steal however. Price around here (Mississippi) about $530 without tax at Highpricer Mountain.

February 28, 2009, 11:45 PM
Found this and it explains what I felt on the trigger.

SFA - Striker Fired Action. These pistols use a Striker, basically a hammer & firing pin in one. Most operate similarly to a lightened Double Action. Cycling the slide partially pre-cocks the striker, and the trigger pull finishes cocking the striker before releasing it to fire the round. Some pistols have the striker pre cocked only a small to moderate amount and are much like DAO in a traditional hammer & firing pin pistol. Others almost fully pre-cock the striker and are much like SA in a hammer & firing pin pistol. Others yet have striker mechanisms that are much like DA/SA. Glocks are undoubtedly the best known SFA pistols; others include Springfield Armory XD, Walther P-99 / S&W99, S&W M&P and Sigma, Taurus Millenium, Mil. Pro, 24/7, and CZ 100.

So the striker is pre-cocked by the slide thats why the double action feels so light the trigger cocks the striker the rest of the way then releases it. The problem I have with this is the gun is to easy to fire. It makes me quite nervous. I dont see why some one would order it with out the ambi-safety on it since its so easy to pull the trigger. Course this coming from a Revolver guy who currently has a DA/SA auto.

Ent you mentioned that the pull did not feel short to you. It felt very short to me I am beginning to wonder if something was odd on the gun I handled.

March 1, 2009, 01:17 AM
I've got a Glock 26 which is similar and a S&W 908 ( I find that the Glock stays in the safe and the 908 goes with me more often than not. I fnd it easier to conceal the 908 and can shove it in my coat pocket fully loaded. Something I wouldn't dream of doing with a Glock or M&P.

March 1, 2009, 05:13 AM
Both the Glock and M&P need to be carried in a holster as they have no safeties(unless you get one of the M&Ps with one). It's a matter of training and knowing the gun. Keep your finger off the trigger and the guns don't fire.

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