Best 40 cal 1911 hicap?


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john l
October 4, 2003, 11:03 PM
I would like to know opinions on the 40 cal hicap 1911s out there, as I will be purchasing one in the next 6 months.
What say ye?

thanks,
john l

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Smoke
October 5, 2003, 12:11 AM
I haven't fired one, but have been admiring the Para Ordnance P16 for some time.

I have 3 Paras and had another LDA which I sold. I have been very pleased with all my Para's.

Zak Smith
October 5, 2003, 12:14 AM
SVI, no question.

If you want cheaper or sooner, STI. They are virtually identical.

There's a reason basically everyone shooting IPSC or 3Gun seriously shoots one of those two.

-z

Morgan
October 5, 2003, 07:07 AM
What's it for?

I've seen too many problems with Para's to recommend them.

SVI looks good, but I've no personal experience.

Also consider a USP40 - similar in action and feel, durable, reliable and accurate, but only if it fits your hands. Mags are probably more common for it, as well.

Sean Smith
October 5, 2003, 04:04 PM
SV is the best. STI is close (in fact, nearly identical functionally), but the SV is more of a full custom job, whereas the STI is more of a limited production type gun. On the other hand, SV is extremely expensive and has long lead times to get your gun made for you. A STI Eagle 5.0 is about $1,500, while a similar SV Infinity is more like $2,500+.

Not only is Para not anywhere near as good as a STI or a SV, which is an unfair comparison given the price difference, it is also not as good as the 1911s made by other companies at the same price point, which is a fair comparison. And I for one don't suggest buying a crappier gun just because it holds more rounds in the magazine. There really is no such thing as a good, affordable, high-capacity 1911 right now.

Zak Smith
October 5, 2003, 04:10 PM
Just as an addition to what Sean said, there are several dealers that stock SV guns (such as SpeedShooters.com), for example:
http://www.speedshooter.com/images/SVP40ED4.jpg

For about $2100 from SpeedShooters.

Alternatively, there are a bunch of gunsmiths whose market is primarily IPSC and 3Gun shooters who can build you a SV for between $1800 - $2400, like Limcat Custom, JP Enterprises, and Triangle Shooting Sports.

-z

New_comer
October 5, 2003, 07:31 PM
STI Trojan or Eagle would be the 40SW 1911 for me.

Zak Smith
October 5, 2003, 07:55 PM
Incidentally, the there's virtually no difference between a .40 SV and a 10mm SV - I think it's just barrel. 20+1 rounds of 10mm gets interesting. Alternatively, you could do, I think, 24+1 rounds of 9x23.

-z

bountyhunter
October 6, 2003, 04:33 PM
I own a Para 1640. Here's what I would have bought if it was legal in kali:


http://www.rushusa.com/html/products/sti/eagle5-1.html

bountyhunter
October 6, 2003, 04:34 PM
STI Trojan or Eagle would be the 40SW 1911 for me.

The Trojan is not a high-cap .40, but it is a great single stack 1911.

Sean Smith
October 6, 2003, 04:52 PM
Incidentally, the there's virtually no difference between a .40 SV and a 10mm SV - I think it's just barrel.

That applies to pretty much any .40 S&W 1911. 10mm is just a barrel swap (or reamed chamber) away. :cool:

10-Ring
October 6, 2003, 06:46 PM
I had a Para P16 w/ a few 16 round mags. Ir worked very well, I just never liked the 40 S&W round :( But in terms of performance, it was fine ;)

john l
October 7, 2003, 11:50 AM
Thank you all,
I think I am leaning toward the STI 5.0.
I am using it primarily for 3 gun and other hicap games.
john l

Zak Smith
October 7, 2003, 11:54 AM
John,

The hi-cap SV or STI is a great choice for 3Gun. I'm looking at buying one myself.

If you shoot USPSA/IPSC with it, you'll want .40SW. Most of the big non-USPSA 3Gun matches such as RM3G, SMM3G, MGM have no power factor or caliber restriction, so a 9x19/.38S/9x23 would have a slight advantage there.

-z

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