remington 700 problems?


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sprice
March 2, 2009, 06:28 PM
do remington 700's have any problems i should know about?

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RevolverMan567
March 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
nothing but the fact that there addictive....once you get one...youll get more.

Lazuris
March 2, 2009, 06:46 PM
Word of caution. They have a nasty habit of reproducing in the safe.

jim in Anchorage
March 2, 2009, 06:50 PM
Just one. Their not pre-64 Win 70s.

RevolverMan567
March 2, 2009, 06:55 PM
^^ Its been 45 Years Jim...time to more on...;)

jim in Anchorage
March 2, 2009, 07:02 PM
I have Rems. I just hate that rattly feel of a cartridge going up the ramp in a non-controlled recessed face bolt gun.

RevolverMan567
March 2, 2009, 07:08 PM
just giving you a hard time friend, Im a die hard remmy guy and I enjoy poking a jab or two at the die hard controlled round feed guys when I get a chance... but your right, the CRF does have a heck of a feel to it.

different strokes.

sprice
March 2, 2009, 07:13 PM
whats this and how can you benefit/ not benefit from it?

RevolverMan567
March 2, 2009, 07:16 PM
Controlled round feed is when the cartridge is captured at the very beginning under the extractor and held completely until being locked into battery

the 700 is a push feed where the shell is held captive by the feed lips of the magazine until it goes into battery

there really isnt a benefit to one over the other despite some peoples opinions and rantings basically personal preference like jim in anchorage mentioned. just likes the feel of one.

jim in Anchorage
March 2, 2009, 07:18 PM
I learned on a 1903 Springfield. That is the way a bolt is SUPPOSED to feel.

KINGMAX
March 2, 2009, 07:24 PM
I have a REMINGTON 700 in .270. I use it for my primary deer rifle. It has never failed to produce deer meat for me. The only ones that get by are the ones that I let pass by.

I have never had an issue w/ this one yet. My only advice is to get to know your cold shot.

husker
March 2, 2009, 07:30 PM
i love all my Remingtons

gotime242
March 2, 2009, 07:37 PM
I have a problem with them.

I dont have one.

kennedy
March 2, 2009, 07:51 PM
if you call getting 5 rds in .4 inch group at 100 yds a problem, then stay away from them. I have done it twice with reloads

jmr40
March 2, 2009, 09:05 PM
I own several Remingtons and as a rule they tend to be one of the more accurate brands but they would not be my 1st choice to save my butt or use in harsh conditions. While rare they have had problems with bolt handles falling off. The small extractors can fail with hot loads or if not kept clean. Some of the older versions had isues with the guns firing when the safety is released. Remington has corrected the problem with newer guns and will fix older guns for a small fee.

Don't get me wrong, I still trust my 700's for deer hunting and I like the rifles but these are issues that come up occasionaly.

Gator 23
March 2, 2009, 09:18 PM
Can't think of any. Push feed is no problem, but I've never experienced a controlled round feed rifle. Darn accurate...deer and antelope hate mine.

Sitting Duck
March 2, 2009, 09:39 PM
I agree with Jim in Alaska. Push feed! I push 'em in with my finger. :what:

jim in Anchorage
March 2, 2009, 10:16 PM
I think revolver man glossed that over a bit. No PH in Africa would be caught dead[pun intended] with a push feed. The long Mauser extractor is simply more dependable then the hairpin Remington. Deer who cares,whatever you like. Stuff that fights back, controlled feed.

Lawman
March 2, 2009, 11:42 PM
There must be a reason the M24 and M40A1 military sniper rifles are built on the Remington 700 action. I doubt they would be if the military was concerned the push feed would not be reliable in battle.

One of the others is correct. I bought one 700 and put in my safe. Somehow I now have 8.

jim in Anchorage
March 3, 2009, 12:10 AM
Pulling a chunk of rim out shooting someone at 800 yards is not as serious as the same situation with a cape buffalo charging at 5.

Gator 23
March 3, 2009, 12:34 AM
Push feed risk with dangerous game seems like a low odds consideration. Good counterpoint re snipers...I've never met a Marine sniper speak ill of a 700. If Africa ever calls, not sure I'd worry with a 700 in hand and a good PH who is situationally aware and in control. Honestly, I have more doubts about how I'd keep the nerves together during an attack.

jim in Anchorage
March 3, 2009, 12:41 AM
A PH standing next to you with a .470 double can cover a lot of errors,gun or shooter.

Redneck with a 40
March 3, 2009, 12:46 AM
I bought this one off of my dad, he bought an FN-AR, didn't need the bolt gun anymore. This thing is bad-ass. Its an SPS Tactical.:D

Magic_Man
March 3, 2009, 12:51 AM
I just have 1 problem w/my 700 30-06...I won't be shooting it till the weather gets nice & I hit the outdoor range.

Justice5
March 3, 2009, 06:59 AM
I shoot a Rem 700 .308 as a police issued sniper weapon. Absolutely love it, and have never had a problem. For what it's worth, the rifle has had three previous police sniper owners, and I have no idea how it was treated with them. I don't have the luxury to treat it like a collector's item either. It's never failed me yet, and is so far more accurate and more consistent that my brand new DPMS SASS rifle. I personally have over 1700 rounds through the same barrel, and that's just my tally.

interlock
March 3, 2009, 07:04 AM
i have a remmy model 7 and it is a great rifle.

moooose102
March 3, 2009, 08:56 AM
no problems with remington 700's at all. very good rifle. buy one, buy LOTS of ammo, and have fun! oh yeah, clean it when you are done! oops, i just thought of one little problem, mine, the stock was to long for me, so i had it shortened up one inch.

jester_s1
March 3, 2009, 09:41 AM
The only downer, as has been mentioned already, is the extractor. And it's only a problem if you want to squeeze every last fps out of your necksized handloads and you have some religious aversion to cleaning. The Remington extractor is just a bump in the bolt "ring." it was done that way so that the designers could keep the ring solid for strength, hence the "3 rings of steel" advertizing slogan. IMO, aside from that one caveat, the 700 is the best sporting rifle design on the market, considering quality for money spent.

GardDog223
March 3, 2009, 11:37 AM
My .308 Rem 700 is without a doubt the most accurate out-of-the-box firearm I have purchased. I had also purchased a Win Model 70 around the same time and I am glad that I have a friend that is a Winchester armorer. The .308 Rem 700 was so accurate that I bought the .223 and .300 WSM versions for ...... well, no good reason, I just like shooting them.

GD

SlamFire1
March 3, 2009, 12:46 PM
The extractor has been known to wear out. But then, so have the extractors on the push feed M70. These should be considered consumable items. I don't know the failure rate, maybe by your second or third barrel. Make sure you keep the area under the extractor clean. Gunk under the extractor lip is hard on the extractor.

I don't like the safety arrangement in the M700, it is a sear blocking safety. However most over ride trigger mechanisms use a sear blocking safety. Probably because it is cheap to make. Sear blocking mechanisms have had accidental discharges when they get out of adjustment. Which explains the current crop of unadjustable over ride triggers on the market. The original M98, current Ruger M77 and the old Win M70 safety hold the cocking piece back, and that is a more positive method.

IMO, aside from that one caveat, the 700 is the best sporting rifle design on the market, considering quality for money spent.

The M700 is an excellent design. The engineering was top notch, which is why it is still in production after being introduced in 1948. Few actions from that era are still being made.

jester_s1
March 4, 2009, 07:46 PM
I'm not sure how you could consider a 700 extractor a consumable, since it's a milled bump in the bolt ring. It won't wear out and won't give you any trouble as long as it's clean and you're not hot rodding your ammo.

jim in Anchorage
March 4, 2009, 09:20 PM
The extractor is NOT a milled bump in the bolt. It is a separate piece of spring steel. Otherwise it would be impossible to close the bolt over the cartridge rim. and they do break

1858
March 5, 2009, 12:12 AM
The extractor has been known to wear out. But then, so have the extractors on the push feed M70. These should be considered consumable items. I don't know the failure rate, maybe by your second or third barrel. Make sure you keep the area under the extractor clean. Gunk under the extractor lip is hard on the extractor.

So any thoughts on replacing the factory extractor with a Sako style extractor?

Replace this ...

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/Rem_extractor.jpg

with this ....

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/Sako_extractor.jpg

:)

Horsemany
March 5, 2009, 12:20 AM
Several gunsmiths will no longer install Sako extractors. It weekens the bolt face and if not installed just right can render the bolt useless. I'd rather have a full even ring of support for the back of the case. The target custom actions based on 700's don't use Sako style extractors either. I've owned over 12 different 700's and fired thousands of rounds out of them. I've never smoked an extractor. I'm sure it happens but not as much as the internet would have some believe. If the factory original fails it's easily fixed too.

fireman 9731
March 5, 2009, 12:21 AM
Like others have said, the extractor is the only thing that worries me.... I haven't had a single problem out of mine, but it definitely isn't the best design IMO...

helz_mcfugly
March 5, 2009, 12:22 AM
I had a 700 sps varmint .223 that the extractor broke on. they replaced it for free though.

AllAmerican
March 5, 2009, 12:25 AM
Just like KINGMAX, I too have the .270.

Great deer rifle.

1858
March 5, 2009, 12:27 AM
Several gunsmiths will no longer install Sako extractors. It weekens the bolt face and if not installed just right can render the bolt useless. I'd rather have a full even ring of support for the back of the case. The target custom actions based on 700's don't use Sako style extractors either. I've owned over 12 different 700's and fired thousands of rounds out of them. I've never smoked an extractor. I'm sure it happens but not as much as the internet would have some believe. If the factory original fails it's easily fixed too.

Horsemany, thanks for the succinct answer ... I have three 700s, two of which are 12 or so years old and I've never had any problems of any kind. I was just curious about the Sako extractor since I've seen them on Midway.

Thanks.
:)

Horsemany
March 5, 2009, 12:30 AM
No problem. Sometime back there were some pictures posted of a Sako extractor installation gone wrong. It was pretty ugly. Those pictures lead to some discussion that it's getting harder to find smiths interested in doing it.

USSR
March 5, 2009, 09:18 AM
If there is a weak point in the Model 700, it is the extractor. Several years ago, I was spotting for a guy shooting in 1,000 yard F Class competition. The extractor broke in his Remington 40X, and he finished the match by using my cleaning rod to poke the fired cases out of the chamber.

Don

Legionnaire
March 5, 2009, 09:32 AM
700s (and their "little brother," the Model 7) are great guns. I've had no problems with mine. Further, I think the Remington 700 BDL is a classic beauty, and all safes should contain at least one.

Horsemany
March 5, 2009, 11:31 AM
If there is a weak point in the Model 700, it is the extractor. Several years ago, I was spotting for a guy shooting in 1,000 yard F Class competition. The extractor broke in his Remington 40X, and he finished the match by using my cleaning rod to poke the fired cases out of the chamber.

Don

Yes it is the weak point but usually blown out of proportion IMO. Every design has a compromise. In this case you may have an easy to fix extractor fail once in a blue moon. In exchange you get a bolt face that fully supports the back of the case 360deg. Yes a claw extractor is more reliable but you won't see many at a benchrest match because the whol bottom half of the bolt face is open. ie. not fully supported.

BENELLIMONTE
March 5, 2009, 05:08 PM
I own 4 Remingtons: M700 Mountain Rifle DM in 30-06 w 22" barrel, Model 700 ADL in 243 Win. w 24" barrel,Model 7 CDL in 300WSM w 22" barrel & Model 700 "Guides Choice" 7mm-08 w 22" barrel, All are accurate, especially the 243 Win, and have given me no problems thus far. :D

Sam Adams
March 5, 2009, 06:32 PM
Kennedy said:

if you call getting 5 rds in .4 inch group at 100 yds a problem, then stay away from them. I have done it twice with reloads

THE RULES require you to immediately post your load. You're gonna tease us, now you gotta produce. :>)

Sam Adams
March 5, 2009, 06:44 PM
Oh, and the Remington 700 Stainless Steel Milspec 5R really sucks...
http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/Rem_M700_StainlessSpecial5RMilspec.asp

If any of you don't want yours, I'll take it off of your hands - just because I'm such a nice guy. Heck, I'll even pay for all of the shipping.

Sam Adams
March 5, 2009, 07:18 PM
Here's more on the Remington 700 SS 5R Milspec: http://www.tobystactical.com/

kennedy
March 5, 2009, 10:31 PM
Sam, my load was 40.3 gr of H4895 in a rem case with 168gr SMK, harris bipod, rear sand bag, leupold 3x9, just one long oblong hole on one, and clover leaf on the second, made my day

hinton03
March 6, 2009, 04:05 AM
I have always owned 700's and never had a problem until recently.

I have an older 700 FS in 7mm Mag that I have hunted hard with for years. I was on an Arizona Elk hunt and the rifle began to intermittently fail to cock on opening and I had to cycle the action multiple times to get it to cock.

I took the bolt apart and cleaned it throughly and it reduced the number of instances, but did not eliminate the problem.

My guess is the problem is in the trigger assembly somewhere. Like I said it has been hunted and shot hard so it is probably just time for a tune-up by a qualified gun smith. This my favorite Elk rifle so it is a bad feeling to loose confidence in it.

sh3rm4nt4nk
March 6, 2009, 04:30 AM
I've a Rem 700 and a Win 70. I like the tight smooth bolt on the Win 70 better. Everything else I like the rem 700 a little better. I cant decide wich I like overall.

amlevin
June 19, 2009, 12:01 AM
do remington 700's have any problems i should know about?

I just bought one, a 700 SS Milspec in .308 that doesn't want to make any more than one hole in the target no matter how many rounds I shoot at it. Oh, sorry, that's not a problem.

cyclopsshooter
June 19, 2009, 12:23 AM
just aquired this last week, Rem 700LH BDL 30-06 with leupold base, redfield scope and a rock mount :) $400 FTF :neener:

http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/wrc376/DSC00301.jpg

wickedsprint
June 19, 2009, 12:56 AM
I once had a blued model that did not have all the salts or something washed off after the blueing. As such one of the scope mount screw holes kept spouting white powder under the blank screw before I ever put a scope on it. I had to wash it out like crazy with hot soapy water then let it sit for a few weeks to see if it came back..it did and I had to do it over again. Did not come back..mounted scope and called it a day.

LogicGS
June 19, 2009, 02:59 AM
The 700 BDL is the definition of what an American hunting rifle should look like. I have yet to see a rifle that is finer looking than a BDL with that high gloss blue and glossy cut checkered stock. Beautiful.

I took my first deer with a 700 BDL chambered in .243 Win. that belongs to my mom.

That all said, the one I own myself is a 700P action in a vertical grip B&C Medalist adjustable stock, flat black and ugly, but man does it shoot. Heavy too, but for what it does, that's a good thing. ;)

Buy one, pretty much any one, and you'll be glad you did.

P.B.Walsh
June 19, 2009, 12:48 PM
They are great rifles. I don't know why some people don't like them (ie. Savage lovers).

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