Guns on Campus 50 years ago - No big deal


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Sagetown
March 3, 2009, 10:31 PM
Dug out my old 1959 -1962 TUHSchool Annuals.
Pictured here, our team won the State Championship in "Smallbore Rifle Competition" in 1959 and 1960, held in Sacramento, CA. Clyde Claunch (standing on the left) also took the "High Individual" Trophy one year.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/FourBee/tulareunionrifleteam0011.jpg


In 1961 half our team graduated the prior year, but we still took 5th Place in the 5 man team, and 6th Place in the 10 man team of the "Class A Regional Division".

In 1962 we took the "All Regional .22 Rimfire Competition Trophy", and 6th Place in "California State Championship Competition".

All the rifles used were Remington. The newer ones with the shiny adjustable butt plates and long front sight tubes are the Model 40-X. We competed in indoor and outdoor Target Matches up and down the San-Joa Quin Valley, California.
That's Gene on the left and I'm on the right.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/FourBee/tulareunionrifleteam0061.jpg

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gidaeon
March 3, 2009, 10:37 PM
neat pictures, thanks for sharing.

2RCO
March 3, 2009, 10:45 PM
I graduated HS in SWMO in the 90's we still had gunracks in our trucks. I'd often keep a 12GA in the trunk of my car for Dove hunting after school. Times have changed since then!


Now you would go to jail for the simple idea of it.

husker
March 3, 2009, 11:22 PM
i grad in 1987 same thing we would take our guns in the morning to check traps or a few distress calls then to high school with our guns we went no big deal. we also said =one nation under god. they dont say that part at school during the pledge of ale gents. not at public schools any way. what happened? did i miss something. i thought this country was based by our four fathers on god and country. and justice for all. ya right! you would go right to jail thats a fact. the morel fiber in this country has been missing for some time now. HOW SAD HOW SAD

Pine Cone
March 3, 2009, 11:27 PM
My high school had an indoor pistol range in the basement of the administration buiding, underneath the school store.

I think it was still open and used by ROTC in the early 1960's when my brother went there. By 1967 when I started they had closed it down. I bet no one who has gone there in the last 35 to 40 years even knows it was ever there...

I hope everyone appreciates how much safer it is now that most of the ranges are closed down and the days of going to Sears to get a mail order rifle or pistol are long gone...

Sigh:banghead:

RonE
March 3, 2009, 11:29 PM
I built a varmet rifle (.218 Bee) from a BSA Martini Cadet rifle after school in Auto Shop with the help of the auto shop teacher. Cupertino High School, Cupertino, California in 1961.

jpatterson
March 3, 2009, 11:38 PM
We've got a pistol range in the basement of the Military Science building at KU, but you can bet your buttons it will never again be used. It's a shame.

porterdog
March 3, 2009, 11:55 PM
Those pictures are sweet! Are there more?

Sagetown
March 4, 2009, 12:56 AM
Let me dig around in here Porterdog; oh yeah, here's one. Now we were only posing for this pic, so were not really equipped as in an actual match. For one - we always wore the shooting jackets and used a sling, and a heavy padded left handed glove. The new rifles came with a wood Palm extention that screwed in under the forearm. It looked like a doorknob. We never adapted to it. Same with the Butt Plate extentions. We were so used to the standard rifles that they meant nothing more than a novelty to us. ;)

http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/FourBee/tulareunionrifleteam0111.jpg

Dienekes
March 4, 2009, 01:04 AM
I have a picture around of me as a senior in HS (boy's boarding school) in 1959, with my desk top open. I kept a Ruger .22 autopistol in a small lock box in there. It was no secret--the teachers and anyone else that cared knew about it. Zero problems. Believe it or not.

That tells you that it was a different world then.

A damn sight better, too, IMHO.

freakshow10mm
March 4, 2009, 01:06 AM
My mother was on the grade school shooting team in the mid to late 60s when she was in school.

The local college here is one of two colleges that has a live firing range on campus.

jcwit
March 4, 2009, 09:01 AM
Thanks for sharing the pics.

Amazing what the Libs and the drug culture has done to our society.

Of course no one is really responsible for this downfall.

Eb1
March 4, 2009, 09:46 AM
Awesome pics, and you guys stop bragging. :)

Rancho Relaxo
March 4, 2009, 10:53 AM
I had a girlfriend from back east that went to a HS with an active smallbore team that practiced in the range under the gym, it was still hoppin' when she graduated in the late 90s.

Tinpig
March 4, 2009, 11:24 AM
When I was in college 1965, my Dad sent me $100 as a 21st birthday present. He knew I wanted a duck gun. I bought a like-new 12 ga. Belgian Browning A5 at a local pawn shop and openly took it back to my dorm, where it stayed until I next went home. No one cared. This was in Massachusetts. God help you if you did that today.

Well, My Dad's gone, but I still use that A5 he gave me.:)

aka108
March 4, 2009, 11:25 AM
Used my K-22 as part of a public speaking class in 1953 at high school. Passed it around to all the class members so they could handle it. No problem. When I was in college all the guys who were shooters kept their arms in their dorm rooms.

Noban
March 4, 2009, 12:21 PM
I attended St. Joseph's school in York PA in the early 1960s. I asked the nuns if I could bring my .22 rifle to school for show and tell and got the green light. I rode the school bus with it, bolt removed and safely in my pocket. Of course, all the guys loved it; the girls couldn't have cared less. No one had an issue.

We also used to throw our rifles across the handle bars of our Sting-Ray bicycles and ride a few miles to the sand quarry. A sheriff's deputy lived on my street and would see and wave to us all the time. Never once told us to be careful; he knew he didn't have to.

What's happened to this Country of ours?

jcwit
March 4, 2009, 12:27 PM
What's happened to this country of ours?

See post # 12.

erict
March 4, 2009, 12:29 PM
I grew up in rural upper peninsula of Michigan and we still had our deer rifles in the rear windows of our trucks at school. This was in the mid 1990's.

We also rode snowmoblies and dirt bikes right to school and parked in the parking lot.

Even though this was 13 or so years ago, I'd bet things are still pretty relaxed up there. My wife thinks we are traveling back in time 40 years when we go visit my family in the U.P.

SHvar
March 4, 2009, 12:40 PM
The junior high school I went to used to have a bomb shelter that doubled as a competition rifle range. They had some very expensive rifles there, bolt action .22 target rifles.

Sagetown
March 4, 2009, 02:56 PM
Noban: We also used to throw our rifles across the handle bars of our Sting-Ray bicycles and ride a few miles to the sand quarry. A sheriff's deputy lived on my street and would see and wave to us all the time. Never once told us to be careful; he knew he didn't have to.

I can relate to that ~ Only it was 10 miles outa town in the desert for Jackrabbits. 1st time I was invited, I didn't take any water, :fire: and was starving :eek: by the time we got back into town. :D:D That was a BAD day. About 8 bikes and 10 of us boys, as a couple of'em had to ride double, and our little caravan had to stop often to change riders. :banghead:

CoRoMo
March 4, 2009, 04:42 PM
My granddad carried a rifle or sometimes a shotgun to his schoolhouse every day as a young child. He ran a trap line on his route to the paved road where the school bus picked him and his brother up. He needed a gun to kill the animals in his traps. Once he got to school, he'd simply lean the gun up against the corner of the schoolroom and find his desk.

Ah... the good old days... are long gone.

What's happened to this country of ours?
It no longer seems to be ours anymore.

husker
March 4, 2009, 04:52 PM
i used to walk 2 miles through omaha from 96th n Q to 96th and cornhusker with my shogun during pheasant season. many omaha and sarpy county sheriffs drove right on by. i was 12-16 this was back in 1980-84. last year i was shooting rabitts with a crossman pump 760 in my hood. someone called the cops. 10 cruisers and 1 helicopter showed up. the chopper put the fear of god in me. i gave the bb gun back to my nephew that night. and put a fence around my garden

Albatross
March 4, 2009, 05:00 PM
There was a rifle team in my high school. I learned to pistol shoot for my senior project. I graduated in 2001. It is not so doom and gloomy.

MJR007
March 4, 2009, 05:02 PM
1990 HS just about every vehicle in the school parking lot during deer season had a shot gun in it.

Paul Smith's college 1992 you could lock up your deer/bear rifle on campus.

My kids - will never see this.

husker
March 4, 2009, 05:03 PM
thats really surprising in the 21st century. albatross was your school in the city or rural area

Sagetown
March 4, 2009, 05:25 PM
Albatross: There was a rifle team in my high school. I learned to pistol shoot for my senior project. I graduated in 2001.

That's some good news. :) Alot better than what husker experienced. :eek:

An episode like Norban's nowdays in many places, the kids would all end up in jail.:(

TimRB
March 4, 2009, 05:35 PM
You guys must have been in the vanguard of shooting. Didn't the cross-legged sitting position come into vogue about that time? I remember being taught the fundamentals of shooting in the sixties, but was taught the open-leg position.

Tim

armslist
March 4, 2009, 05:37 PM
Wow, that's really cool, but pretty disheartening at the same time.

I suppose that's why people uses phrases like "the good old days."

Sagetown
March 4, 2009, 05:41 PM
I remember being taught the fundamentals of shooting in the sixties, but was taught the open-leg position.

Tim

Hi Tim: I started in '59'. My instructors were very against the open leg. Not stable enough for competition.

p.s. That position was hard on me. I couldn't get my legs to flatten out like they should for good stability, but even with that I had better control than with the open stance.

TimRB
March 4, 2009, 05:55 PM
"p.s. That position was hard on me. I couldn't get my legs to flatten out like they should for good stability, but even with that I had better control than with the open stance."

And if you're like me, it's somewhat harder now.:) Of course, I never did very well with the open-leg position either. I guess open-leg evolved into crossed-ankle, and then to crossed-leg.

BTW, thanks for posting the great pics!

Tim

CoRoMo
March 4, 2009, 06:06 PM
There was a rifle team in my high school. I learned to pistol shoot for my senior project. I graduated in 2001.:what:....:eek:....:eek:....:what:
I'm delightfully and pleasantly shocked!!!

As a kid, I also used to carry my BB guns around town while shooting birds and rabbits.
I'm trying to move out to the country so my kids can have that type of childhood before it's too late.

4Freedom
March 4, 2009, 06:12 PM
The world was very dangerous in the 50s, you couldn't even walk down the street in the city in day time. Now that we have banned and put a lot of regulation on guns, keeping them from deranged college students, the world is much safer. Well at least it is safer for the criminals. LOL

Big_E
March 4, 2009, 06:37 PM
Yeah my dad used to be able to ride his dirt bike and shoot at varmints at the oil fields in the late 60's to early 70's. Nowadays you can be arrested just for tresspassing in the oil fields, imagine what would happen if I had a thunderstick?

When my parents went on cruises not sure of the year (80's?) they had skeet shooting matches and my mom and dad did extremely well (1st I think) on the cruise ship. They don't have that anymore, heck my neighbor went on a cruise to Mexico a few weeks ago and he accidentally left a 1911 mag with .45 jhp in it that slid into a pocket of his suitcase. They forced him to give it to the local PD and he didn't even have the 1911 on him! its like carrying batteries for a camera you don't have.

Boy sometimes i wish I could live back in the good ol' days, but have modern computers so I can converse on THR ;)

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
March 4, 2009, 07:18 PM
Love those pics and the story; thanks! :)

Noban
March 4, 2009, 07:30 PM
All is not lost. I run the youth program at our local gun club. This Saturday we're hosting a trap shoot for local boy scout Troop #2. On the 28th, we have 21 girl scouts and their parents joining us for some .22 rifle shooting. They had an additional 38 girls who wanted to attend (with parents) but I'll have to schedule them on another day due to range constraints.

Kev

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