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GlockFan1954
March 4, 2009, 12:06 AM
I had a gerber I got for free - it worked cutting open packages, in the woods etc. It was 3 inches, really fast to open. Now I've lost the thing.

What should I get now? Should it be serated (partially?). Auto or manual? Price range? Brand? I want something I can carry daily for useful things like boxes, or for when I go camping/hiking should I need it.

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dmickey
March 4, 2009, 12:12 AM
You can never go wrong with a good (Victornox) Swiss Army Knife! :) I've carried one for at least thirty or forty years! :what:

GlockFan1954
March 4, 2009, 12:17 AM
I actually carry a TINY swiss army knife my dad gave me. It stays in my backpack for hiking/school. Never really use it except the occasional package.

cliffy
March 4, 2009, 12:26 AM
CM154 Steel is difficult to better currently. Great prices are still available on Buck knives through many Internet dealers. I like my Alpha Folding Hunter with American steel. Sharp is the Key. Holding an Edge makes a real knife. cliffy

hso
March 4, 2009, 12:41 AM
Ok, we hear you that you'll use it most of the time opening boxes, but what type of boxes?

Heavy cardboard, fiber tape, staples or printer paper reams with plastic bands?

What have you used a knife for camping/hiking in the past.

It doesn't do you any good to have someone recommend a $150 sharpened prybar when you can afford a $60 folder for office cutting.

feudalson
March 4, 2009, 12:45 AM
by any nice sized buck, or gerber of decent carry size serattions dont matter.. i do suggest a single blade folder with at least a 3 or 3.5 blade

bensdad
March 4, 2009, 01:01 AM
I"ve grown to like my Kershaw Storm II. It's pretty big and heavy for a folder, but it's tough. Holds an edge well enough. The tip is not a screwdriver (don't ask).

sm
March 4, 2009, 01:13 AM
May I suggest a Carton Cutter?
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(qw2awpayp1a4uz3ccb02gvyw)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=998007485

Seriously, you work hard for your monies and this Carton Cutter uses a single edge razor blade, and when it gets dull, flip it over to the other edge.
When that blade is toast, slap another one in and good to go.
These are not expensive, and for boxes, really do work well.

Now you can get you whatever you want for your other tasks.
You are worth it.
Heck, you can get more than more knife if you do a Victorinox Swiss Army selection.

Maybe a Classic SD for key ring, and this will handle all sorts of everyday chores and compliment it with a Vic Soldier, Farmer, Alox Bantam...

Compliment it with Case Sodbuster Jr with CV blades.
Get that nice bone handled knife by Queen, Shatt & Morgan, Moore Maker...etc., you have always wanted.

Whatever you want, you deserve it.

The Carton Cutter is a handy, inexpensive workhorse that is proven.
If you lose it, tear it up, what do you care?
Just grab another one and go on about your business.

AnimalTamer
March 4, 2009, 04:09 AM
SM!!! Are you smart or something?!?! Say it isn't so!!

Im gonna go out on a limb here... Listen to SM. Buy and or find for free the right "TOOL" for the job. Nothing is more sicking than losing an unetched police issue Spyderco that you have had for 11 years. The one you lost more than once, like the day you went to two stores, three different parking lots looking for, only to find it in in an ankle deep puddle you parked your 53 foot tractor trailer in. Ahh sooo glad to have found it that day. To bad years later you lost it for good.

Todd A
March 4, 2009, 09:07 AM
Can you legally carry a small fixed blade? Do you need/or want a one hand opener? How do you feel about SAK's or traditional slipjoints? Do you want to stick with the 3" blade length of your lost Gerber? Price range?

I like hiking/camping myself and spend as much time in the woods as I can.This is my EDC combo...a Vic Hiker (almost the same as a Tinker but with a saw instead of the scissors). And a small BK11 fixed, 1095 CV carbon steel,flat ground,3.25" blade, very tough knife. Small light and flat it hides well for in town carry.

Both work great for normal EDC or in the woods work. Cost for both combined is at about $65.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm99/toddma/100_0614.jpg

GlockFan1954
March 4, 2009, 12:07 PM
Thanks todd - that's a pretty neat combo.

I've thought about a smallish fixed blade like that since it's probably ideal for many woods/camping functions like chopping down small trees gutting fish sharpening stakes etc.

I don't know about the legality of them unfortunately - I'm in TX can you carry one? I think the legal max length for any blade is 5" (wouldn't want that big anyway).

My swiss just has 2 small sharp blades, cann opener, cork opener, on of those things you can drill with (forget the name) and scissors. I'd really like one with a saw and pliers. I think it's actually the same size as yours so it's a "tinker"

How much does a bigger/fancier swiss go for? I'd like to keep it under 50

sm
March 4, 2009, 03:31 PM
SM!!! Are you smart or something?!?! Say it isn't so!!

Hey, I am just a Black Lab, with a Laptop and 'Net access. My role is to be the traditional, practical member around here in exchange for dawg treats and steak bones.
*handsome black lab grin*

GlockFan1954,

In reference to knife law, bookmark this site:
http://home.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm

Since you are bookmarking, do this one as well.
Handgunlaw.us
http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Todd,
Post a picture if you will of your small fixed blades.
I did not check TX knife law.

GlockFan1954,
Still that small fixed, if legal, might be something that would fit one of your tasks.

HTH

*woof*

W.E.G.
March 4, 2009, 03:55 PM
Thanks to the Chinese imports, you can get a good medium-duty knife for really cheap.

There are thousands.

Buy several, and just replace your daily knife when you break/lose/get-tired-of it.

If you need a knife that can be used as a tent peg in armor-plate, there are some of those around too.

Limeyfellow
March 4, 2009, 04:16 PM
I would avoid partially serrated blade. In my opinion they tend to get in the way so either go all the way serrated or have a smooth blade.

I use as my general everyday carry a Kershaw Blur and a Swiss Tool X. Both can be bought for $50 or under and the last gives you all the wonderfulness of one of the best multitools that I use quite regularly in my job.

Exmasonite
March 4, 2009, 04:19 PM
like chopping down small trees

For a smallish fixed (as stated- not sure how small this means), this may be a little bit of a stretch. Yes, it's possible. But i guess there's 2 schools of thought on this:

1) Get a really cheap knife b/c you'll be beating on it and you don't want to trash a nice one.

2) get a really nice/$ knife since this activity is really pushing the limits of a small FB knife.

Batoning wood is certainly possible. If it's going to be a common occurrence, i think you should look into either a LARGER FB knife or a hatchet.

I have an ontario RAT 3 that i will occasionally employ for this task myself and i sometimes think that's a stretch. Just not sure you're gonna get away with anything smaller than that.

To that end, a really nifty FB that i've been carrying a lot lately is the Boker Edit.

Todd A
March 4, 2009, 04:32 PM
My little Becker necker is smaller than a RC3, and it will baton. But like you I think its pushing it.

Which is why my SAK has a saw.

skwab
March 4, 2009, 05:05 PM
Just picked up a Kershaw Blackout -

http://www.kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=75&brand=kershaw

Great knife - very sharp out of the box - very versatile function wise, and while not an auto it is an assisted opener - opens very fast without having to worry about the legalities of an auto. should be able to find one for around 60-70 bucks

franconialocal
March 4, 2009, 05:22 PM
www.spyderco.com

Let me say it again

www.spyderco.com

Nuff' said....

hso
March 4, 2009, 07:07 PM
many woods/camping functions like chopping down small trees gutting fish

Those are on the extreme ends of the spectrum and a single knife probably won't do either job very well (or will be horrible at one of the two). A good camp set is a small pointy knife (fixed or folding doesn't really matter) for the dozens of small choirs and a medium sized (3-4") fixed blade for the few choirs requiring a beefier blade.

You can get a perfectly well suited set for this, the smaller of which would do well as your every day knife, for under $150 and easily find a pair of knives under $100 to do the job. With a little effort you could spend $75 and be good to go.

GlockFan1954
March 4, 2009, 08:11 PM
I got this one on ebay for $24, mint condition, from a reputable seller

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/stores/sport-goods/swisschamp-300.jpg

We'll see in 10 or so days! Some places sell them for over $80 so I figure it's a great deal. It should solve most of my needs - it even has wood saw. I could even use the magnifier to start a fire (after I use the other tools to get a fire bundle !). I'm excited to try it out. I'm mostly happy it was so inexpensive - and all the reviews I've read are outstanding some people have had their swisschamp for 20 years.

Schofield
March 4, 2009, 08:17 PM
You can never go wrong with a good (Victornox) Swiss Army Knife! I've carried one for at least thirty or forty years! Yeah mine has been through a ton of abuse and still cuts through whatever I need cut as if it were a lightsaber. yeah, it's that good. :cool:

Valkman
March 4, 2009, 08:54 PM
You need to go to www.DLKnives.com, find what you like and Paypal me. That is all. :D

bensdad
March 4, 2009, 09:21 PM
Man, I love your knives. The only reason I don't have one is because I tend to beat the crap out of them, and I'd feel terrible abusing such a nice tool. Trixie sure is cute.

SimpleIsGood229
March 4, 2009, 09:31 PM
I suggest the Spyderco Tenacious. The Spyderco round hole (instead of thumb stud) may seem really weird at first, but it's actually quite fast and secure. Your thumb won't slip off, unlike a thumbstud (on occasion).

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/list.php?blade=8Cr13MoV

The Spyderco Byrd line is inexpensive, yet pretty good on quality. Both the Tenacious and Byrds are inside the above link.

JShirley
March 4, 2009, 10:04 PM
I'm a big fan of at least two knives for camp/woods stuff. I tend to go for a very large chopper and a smallish knife for delicate work and cooking.

It's been said, but box-opening and camping might really call for different blades.

John

Big Bill
March 4, 2009, 10:16 PM
Get a Spyderco Native III...

or a Kershaw Junk Yard Dog would be a great choice.

Brian Dale
March 4, 2009, 10:55 PM
A Victorinox Champ for $24? :what: Well done, sir!

Don't worry about Valkman; he won't badger you for orders. We badger him most of the time, and the Small Skinner that he made for me last year is phenomenal. :)

{and my SAK is a Victorinox Climber that lives in my laptop bag}

Exmasonite
March 4, 2009, 11:56 PM
Man, I love your knives. The only reason I don't have one is because I tend to beat the crap out of them, and I'd feel terrible abusing such a nice tool. Trixie sure is cute.

go ahead and pull the trigger. what you'd consider "beating the crap out out of a knife" is something one of don's knives calls "tuesday". really... you can have the tool and it can look good, too.

Big Bill
March 5, 2009, 12:07 AM
GlockFan - I thought you wanted a knife - not a box full of tools? :D

Brian Dale
March 5, 2009, 12:40 AM
BigBill,I actually carry a TINY swiss army knife my dad gave me. It stays in my backpack for hiking/school. Never really use it except the occasional package.Maybe he dropped that one in the Miracle-Gro by accident and he didn't want to give away the secret. ;)

gazpacho
March 6, 2009, 04:32 AM
Gerber EAB Pocket Knife (http://www.gerbergear.com/index.php/product/id/46)

You can get this cheap little knife at Target for $10. It uses cheap single edge utility blades. Once it gets dull, you just replace the blade. This knife is tough. I've abused mine for years. For box cutting and similar duties, this knife is perfect.

jakemccoy
March 25, 2009, 02:07 AM
I just bought Remington TAC II for $11.95 (regularly $49.95) at Big 5. It seems to be decent quality. I know little or nothing about knives. I do know that I don't want anything expensive. I want to be able to use it, toss it or lose it without getting pissed.

bikerdoc
March 25, 2009, 06:12 AM
Think Spyderco Tenacious!!!

INSULATION TIM
March 25, 2009, 08:07 AM
I was a KnifeKnut for awhile.....prior to becoming a GunNut. I was fond of Spyderco blades with the plain edges. I've never been a big fan of serrated edges (though Spyderco arguably makes the best). The only Serrated I have is a Spyderco Rescue and it is meant for slashing through seat belts, etc.

Typically, Spyderco uses VG10 steel (a very good steel) and started offering ZDP 189 several years ago.

Don't be put off when it shows Seki City Japan as that is where the best knife steels (IMHO) are made as well as some of the best knives.

turkeythigh
March 26, 2009, 03:49 AM
i would go with somthing like a crkt m16. they come in a variety of sizes and shapes, non-serrated and partially serrated. they are a good all around knife and the price is fairly low. you can pick one up at your local walmart for around 20 bucks. they have a medium steel blade that makes them fairly easy to sharpen and have a nifty little stud that protrudes out of the back side of the handle for quick operation in an emergency. i have owned several and enjoyed a long life from all of them with little complaint. hope this info has helped a bit.

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