Drug addicts and criminals in Baghdad


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tyme
October 5, 2003, 04:43 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3156048.stm

Bad gun handling by a paint thinner huffer:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39402000/jpg/_39402028_salleh270.jpg
(original caption: "Young addicts sniff bags of paint thinner")

A drugs epidemic and accompanying crime wave is sweeping Baghdad.

A boom in supply of hallucinogenic tablets has been coupled with the release of tens of thousands of criminals from prison before the US-led invasion to create a huge problem for the fledgling Iraqi police force.

As well as the tablets, drugs like Valium and sleeping pills - in common use in Iraqi jails - are being used. The euphoria and lack of fear provided by the drugs, the police say, is giving desperate criminals the courage to carry out more crimes.

"The release of those prisoners was a crime - a crime against me, against all Iraqis," Omar Zahed, the leader of the Iraq police's anti-drugs squad, told BBC World Service's Outlook programme.

"There has been a big increase in crime, and the released prisoners have started involving other people as well.

"Most of our criminals take these tablets before they act. It stops them feeling any scruples or fear.

"When the effects wear off, they forget what they did. It has caused a huge increase in crime."

Tough penalty call

Mr Zahed said that the tablets were of huge concern to the police force - and that their presence in Iraq was the result of a well-planned international criminal effort.

"They only appeared in this country about two years ago," he stated.

"We did a study and discovered it was a sabotage operation from outside Iraq. It had to be - because at first the tablets were coming in at a totally uneconomical price, just a few US cents per strip.

"Most of the tablets came in over our Eastern boarder with Iran. Our people used them and they have become part of a very profitable trade.

"There is an enormous mark-up on the price."

Mr Zahed said there were around 10-15 types of tablets. He added that some marijuana also came in, but it was not commonly used as it was very expensive.

He stressed that the police needed to be able to enforce tougher penalties in order to deal with the problem.

"At the moment the penalty for trading these tablets is a fine, or at the most a three-month prison sentence," he said.

"Before the war we were drafting a new law with much tougher penalties. I just hope that legislation is put in place."

Mr Zahed's claims of the effects of the drugs were backed up by Mohammed, a tablet user and former prisoner.

"One type of tablet is called Lebanon - when I take it I see Lebanon. I've never been there, but it's in the tablet," he told Outlook.

"I used to see bad things as well. I used to have terrible nightmares and be filled with fear.

"I dream of sex. When you take a tablet it makes you desperate. I attack women.

"You get a friend or a neighbour, or you get a weapon and kill someone, but you are not aware of your actions."

Collapsed system

Among the users, some of the street addicts are very young.

Teenagers and younger children sniffing paint thinner or correction fluid is a common sight.

"The other day I saw a five-year-old child on the street carrying a bag of correction fluid - it was awful," one Baghdad cafe owner said.

"But he was just copying the older children."

The cafe owner said that the explosion in drug use was due to the anarchy that had hit some parts of the capital after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

"You didn't see gangs of children on the streets before the war," he said.

"Some of them come from homes and orphanages, because the whole system has collapsed."

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CaesarI
October 5, 2003, 06:00 PM
Their own drug war! CLASSIC anti-drug propaganda! "Turns'em into uncontrollable violent blah blah blah"

Further... I don't think that's a firearm, looks like an air-pistol to me...
Crossman 1008B to be exact.

There's prolly nothin' more than air in the sack.

-Morgan

Justin
October 5, 2003, 06:27 PM
[obscure movie reference]
There probably wasn't any peanut butter, either.
[/obscure movie reference]

Moparmike
October 5, 2003, 07:49 PM
Obscure is right Justin. So obscure that I have no friggin' idea what you are talking about.:confused:

Anyway, I love how they use the "Funny, we didnt have this problem before the war..." like SoDamned Insane was this blessed saint who rid the whole of Iraq from the scurge of drugs.:scrutiny: Puhlease.:barf:

Just once I want these people to come out and say that "We are full of Liberally-biased tripe and want you to believe every friggin' word like the mindless drones we are trying to train you to be. Believe it. Believe it for the children. Believe it because Big Brother wants you to.

IGNORANCE IS STREGNTH
PEACE IS WAR
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY"

:scrutiny: :scrutiny: :scrutiny: :barf: :barf:

Justin
October 5, 2003, 09:48 PM
Mike, it's a reference to a British dark comedy called 'How To Get Ahead In Advertising.'
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097531

As for crime in pre- and post-Saddam Iraq, well, crime is generally quite low in dicatorships. But then again, so are civil liberties.

Greg L
October 5, 2003, 11:01 PM
I don't think that's a firearm, looks like an air-pistol to me...

:o

I kind of thought that it looked like my Taraus PT945 :o ...

Greg

Mark Tyson
October 5, 2003, 11:04 PM
You know what though? People in Iraq did own guns under Saddam. I saw a news story before the war where they went into a gun shop - they had some Mausers, some 9mm pistols, stuff like that.

Course the Kurds up north, now they had serious firepower. With a little air support fomr us they did all right for themselves.

whitebear
October 6, 2003, 09:58 AM
CaesarsI -

Definitely NOT a Crossman 1008B, which looks like this:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/pbbb5a901ea6eab50dbff935737609ac3/fae59a7f.jpg

Note that the Crossman trigger guard is not squared off, the grips are different and there is no circular feature (pin, or something) on the lower front portion of the slide.

I am really curious to know what it IS, though. Any other thoughts on the make of this gun?

Sergeant Bob
October 6, 2003, 02:50 PM
CaesarI There's prolly nothin' more than air in the sack.
That's what I was thinking at first. Probably just blowing up the bag so he can pop it to make a "bang". But, if you look closely, toward the lower part of the bag, there appears to be a "bubble" of liquid. I'd PhotoChop it with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was?????? (but I digress) but I'm not that motivated right now.

agricola
October 6, 2003, 03:02 PM
sergeant bob,

yep, he looks like a glue sniffer to me.

rest,

no doubt the release of all of Saddam's prisoners has meant that those actual criminals that deserved punishment are now looking to make hay while the sun shines. when one hears statements like

Anyway, I love how they use the "Funny, we didnt have this problem before the war..." like SoDamned Insane was this blessed saint who rid the whole of Iraq from the scurge of drugs.

one recalls the almost as bad Benito Mussolini, who was probably the closest person ever to wiping out the Mafia. Organized crime flourishes in chaos, and where it can find a niche amongst "free" society - but when faced with a state willing to respect nothing (like Iraq and Facist Italy) they are often easily dealt with, since they are outclassed and outgunned by the criminals who are in power.

personally, the only way to deal with this problem IMHO is to empower local communities to deal with this themselves - most muslims have a somewhat zealous attitude to criminal punishment and one would imagine the problem would be shortlived.

CaesarI
October 6, 2003, 06:48 PM
Does that kid look like he's more than 5' tall to any of ya'll? Anyone ever see a pistol that looks like that that fits in such tiny hands so well? Neither've I.

Yeah, the picture I saw of the Crossman was bad, didn't see the trigger so well. On the bright side, the kid isn't pointing it at anyone ('cept maybe a birdy).

Shame the bag got in the way.

One of the better aspects about Iraq was that they did own guns, its a mistake for us to try and change that.

-Morgan

tyme
October 6, 2003, 10:35 PM
Yeah, the picture I saw of the Crossman was bad, didn't see the trigger so well. On the bright side, the kid isn't pointing it at anyone ('cept maybe a birdy).
Danger! What goes up must come down...

CaesarI
October 8, 2003, 07:36 PM
What goes up does come down, but not at the same velocity that it had when it went up.

http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/miscella.htm#straight

Not perfectly safe... but not the big huge danger its made out to be either.

-Morgan

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