Reply from Winchester Ammunition Company


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GhostRider66
March 5, 2009, 12:30 PM
After inquiring at several local Walmarts, I found that they were not ordering any more ammunition than normal. As it was explained to me, the orders were completely automated and probably didn't account for the fact that the ammunition was going out as fast as it was coming in. So I decided to email Winchester and ask about this. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Here was their response:

Thank you very much for taking the time to contact us here at Winchester Ammunition. We are always glad to hear from our many friends and customers who share in the shooting sport.

This is not limited to Wal Mart. Pretty much everyone else selling ammunition does too, especially if it ammunition that would be suitable for self defense. We are working 7 days a week 24 hours a day and shipping ammunition every day. However, due to the extraordinary demand, we can't keep up and there are backorders. I do not expect this to change any time soon.

Thank you again for contacting us here at Winchester Ammunition. If you should require additional information, do not hesitate to contact us.


Sincerely, Winchester Technical Department

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chuckusaret
March 5, 2009, 01:13 PM
Gee, you guys must go thru a lot of ammo. I have only seen the shelves at the local Wal Marts empty one time for WWB ammo, and that was for only a day or two. There is always Remington ammo on the shelf. Recommend to the manager that he change his order quantities to be in line with demand. The store here increased their orders by one case of each caliber with the exception of .22 rounds

ar10
March 5, 2009, 01:19 PM
I haven't even been shopping for ammo for over a year now, I don't buy or even look at it. And I have plenty :neener::D

Hungry Seagull
March 5, 2009, 01:22 PM
I have about a thousand rounds pending across the rest of 2009 if not twice that. The problem is actually getting TO the ammo in stock.

Ive already canceled one B/O and moving more rapidly to those with ammo in stock in one box, two box or whatever I can get.

Make that across the USA and you can have a good picture of the situation.

erict
March 5, 2009, 01:25 PM
I strolled by the counter last week and they had 2400 rounds of Fed bulk .223. I bought 300 rounds just to have a few extra.

I went back in the very next day and the remaining 2100 rounds were gone.

shootistpd27
March 5, 2009, 01:26 PM
You have to give the ammo companies some credit. They have the opportunity without the aid of Obama to raise the price of ammo to $50 bucks a box and if they did that now all of price hikes would be pure profit because Obama hasnt enacted any extra taxes yet. It all comes back to supply and demand. My hats off to them for raising the prices but not to the outrageous price that most gun enthusiast would actually pay to stay locked cocked and ready to rock. If they worked the same way as the gas companies we would really be screwed.

Ben86
March 5, 2009, 01:28 PM
I wonder if this huge increase in gun and ammo buying makes Obama sweaty. "How am I supposed to start a Socialist revolution with all these armed citizens?" ;)

GhostRider66
March 5, 2009, 02:56 PM
Stopped by last night at one of the usual Walmarts and in typical Walmart employee fashion (very nice but not too bright) was able to purchase some ammo.

Arrived and looked in counter. Nothing except for .25 Auto. Found employee. Asked if they had any .45 ACP WWB. Employee looks into counter and replies "no". I ask if the delivery truck has come in today. He replies "yes". I ask if the truck has been unloaded yet. He replies "yes". I ask if they may have received some of this much-desired ammo on this truck. He replies "probably". I ask if he would go in the back and check. He goes into the back and comes out with a case (5 boxes of 100rnd ea). I buy them all.

Last night, I notify my co-workers of the score and they ask me to check on my way into work.

I stop at same Walmart. Twenty minutes. Find employee. Ask about ammo. He looks into counter. "No". I ask if they received any last night and just haven't stocked it. He goes into back and checks. He comes back out and reports that a whole case came in last night and some jerk bought it all before it hit the counter. I inform him that if I find that SOB, I'll make sure to kick the crap out of him. Oh do I have a beating coming.

Carlos Cabeza
March 5, 2009, 03:57 PM
I go in to my local China mart every day and I am only able to buy one or two boxes of whatever cal. I have each time. Otherwise shelves are EMPTY.

Ben Shepherd
March 5, 2009, 04:16 PM
Been that way across the board for a while now. The last gun show was litterally over an hour wait JUST TO GET WAITED ON. And as a vendor at the show, I was in line BEFORE the show even opened. The two guys behind me took the last 5,000 rounds of 55gr FMJ 223 the vendor had.

The local Cabelas seems to be keeping a decent variety in stock. Not much though, just enough to keep some on the shelves.

feedthehogs
March 5, 2009, 07:36 PM
I strolled by the counter last week and they had 2400 rounds of Fed bulk .223. I bought 300 rounds just to have a few extra.

I went back in the very next day and the remaining 2300 rounds were gone

Is that new, new math?

erict
March 5, 2009, 08:05 PM
Is that new, new math? :D whoops.... I'll fix that. I'm usually a whiz with math but something here at work must have distracted me for a moment. I actually wondered earlier if I may have done that but never double checked...... it's been a long day.

Jim K
March 5, 2009, 09:55 PM
"I wonder if this huge increase in gun and ammo buying makes Obama sweaty. "How am I supposed to start a Socialist revolution with all these armed citizens?" "

Ted Kennedy reportedly told the NRA*, "If you resist us, we will kill you; the army has more guns than the NRA."

*When he about to be anointed great leader, before he went swimming.

Jim

gego
March 6, 2009, 12:06 AM
I have plenty of ammo, but pick up some each time I go to Walmart just to add to the mania. Hopefully our expanding socialist government will at least take note that we citizens are stocking up. Let them imagine why.

Elm Creek Smith
March 6, 2009, 12:15 AM
I bought a 440-round can of 7.62X54R Bulgarian light bullet ammo at the most recent gun show for $89.00 including tax. When my wife asked me why I had to buy that much ammo at once, I explained that Da One's Attorney General was making gun ban noises and that one of his old chums from Chicago had introduced a gun licensing/registration bill. I wasn't waiting.

More lead bullets, primers, and enough powder to top off my reloading equipment will keep me in ammo through the next eight years.

I'm looking for a few more guns to complete my battery. I need a couple of battle rifles suitable for the other adults in my house, and I'd like to get a Dragunov.

ECS

Schuey2002
March 6, 2009, 12:16 AM
I cleaned out the 9mm at my local WW last Monday.

It was a single 50 rd. box of WWB. Apparently, it was all they had received from their warehouse in three days...

Old Fuff
March 6, 2009, 12:34 AM
Since Wal-Mart is now in bed with New York City's Mayor Bloomberg, I suppose some lurid tales must be getting back to that gentleman concerning the current ammunition rush. As the numbers add up I wonder if he's losing any sleep at night. If so it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy… :evil:

DeathByCactus
March 6, 2009, 12:42 AM
I've given up trying to find ammo at stores. Besides most stores around here don't carry 6.8mm SPC readily, so I just buy in bulk from SSA. Which for some reason, they haven't shipped yet...

chuckusaret
March 6, 2009, 12:51 AM
What ever the Obamanation does or does not do, I will have a sufficient supply of ammo to either ward off his Strong Civilian Force or do some serious range time. I am game for what ever he wants to do. I have 32 ammo cans in my spare bedroom closet or about 15,000 rounds of handgun ammo

DanielW
March 6, 2009, 01:43 AM
Well, I went to 5 local walmarts and they were out of any brand of .45 and 9mm. Completely gone.

searcher451
March 6, 2009, 08:15 PM
Went yet again to the local WallyWorld today on the advice of the store clerk from two days ago, who told me that another order was coming in for sure on Friday. Either he lied, or the run took place before I showed up again. In a word, &*#@(^@#!

We're at 8 weeks and counting of no 9mm ammo of any stripe to be had, and I'm getting a bit tired of shooting nothing but .22 bulk at the range.

As Gen. Anthony McAuliffe once famously said, "Nuts."

Alchymist
March 6, 2009, 09:58 PM
Stopped by our "local" (22 miles) Walmart today....no 38 special, only 1 box in .357, which I grabbed, and grabbed one of the 3 500 rd boxes of 22LR. There were other caliber available, but only onsies twoosies of each, and a lot of blank spaces. Seems like the bullet ban is working.....

Texas Moon
March 6, 2009, 10:05 PM
Wal-Marts in my area have been empty of centerfire pistol ammo for months.
Most still have some 22LR and shotshell ammo.
If your local WallyWorld has ammo you're lucky.

Deltaboy
March 6, 2009, 10:15 PM
mine has been hit and miss

Alchymist
March 6, 2009, 10:32 PM
So does your local wallyworld cashier ask you if the ammo is for a handgun or rifle?

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