Best Mauser Rifle?


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DavidB2
March 6, 2009, 01:23 AM
I already have a Yugo M48 Mauser and would like to get another good quality Mauser rifle. I am leaning towards saving up for the Czech VZ 24, but also wondered about opinions on the Yugo M 24/47, or a good quality K98 if I can find it. Thanks for your opinions.

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RockyMtnTactical
March 6, 2009, 02:24 AM
The Yugo 24/47's are really pretty decent (better than the 48's) but I think the CZ 24's are among the VERY best.

I have a Yugo and really like it. It is very high quality, but those CZ's at AIM are tempting.

Here is my Yugo.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/RMTactical/IMG_4466.jpg

doubs43
March 6, 2009, 02:46 AM
If you're looking for pure quality in a Mauser, some of the contract models are THE very best IMO. Those sold to Chile, Argentina, Brazil and Persia (Iran), among others, were made to a quality standard that is unlikely to ever be seen again. While not a true Mauser design, the Portuguese Vergueiro made by DWM as the Model 1904 in 6.5x58mm and later reworked by Mauser in 1939 to 8mm is of the very highest quality.

Although not as strong as the 1898 Mauser action, the DWM manufactured 1891, 1893 and 1895 Mausers are also of a quality that will never be made again. Find one in excellent condition and you'll have an example of unsurpassed craftsmanship.

Many South American countries were armed with Mausers at a time when the US was still using Trapdoor Springfield rifles and Krags. They were better armed than we were until the 1903 Springfield was issued. The '03 was close enough to a Mauser action that the courts awarded Paul Mauser one million dollars to settle a law suit against the US Government for patent infringement.

Coronach
March 6, 2009, 03:04 AM
Ditto the vz24 as being among the best. If you don't mind the Czech crest being sanded out, AIM surplus apparently has some really good vz24s in right now.

Mike

Hoppy590
March 6, 2009, 03:36 AM
Swedes if you dont mind an oddball round

Travis Bickle
March 6, 2009, 03:40 AM
Swedish Mausers are widely considered to be the epitome of Mauser quality and craftsmanship. If I ever buy a Mauser, it will definitely be a Swede.

Duke of Doubt
March 6, 2009, 03:55 AM
Persians and Swedes are the best, IMO.

BHP FAN
March 6, 2009, 03:59 AM
My 24/47 is a great rifle.

skidooman603
March 6, 2009, 06:06 AM
I own two 6.5 x 55 swedes. Have harvested more than 20 bucks with them and they are Tack Drivers:)

MachIVshooter
March 6, 2009, 08:34 AM
Two of my absolute favorites is my M93 Spanish 7x57 and M96 Swede 6.5x55. I like them much better than the large ring rifles.

db_tanker
March 6, 2009, 09:06 AM
The Swedes, Argy's, and Persians have always garnered the most attention it would seem. Hard to go wrong with them.

My Brno can't be considered that bad, though. :)

Remember, if you find a Brno then it really IS a CZ. :D

MTCW
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aka108
March 6, 2009, 10:03 AM
I'd have to go with a 1909 Argentine made by DWM as the top Mauser type followed closely by the 98 Peruvian contract rifle made by Mauser.

Dr.Rob
March 7, 2009, 02:41 AM
Best Mauser? Pre war commercial 98 sporter made by Mauser. Hands down. Best of the surplus guns? Think that mainly depends on the condition of the bore. My BRNO 98k seriously outshoots my 1903A3. An "unissued" 24/47 might shoot better, but I doubt it. Vz's are made at BRNO, right?

elmerfudd
March 7, 2009, 12:08 PM
Swedish Mausers are widely considered to be the epitome of Mauser quality and craftsmanship. If I ever buy a Mauser, it will definitely be a Swede.

I understand that Mitchell's has some wartime K98 type Swedish Mausers complete with Deaths head stamps. Very collectible.

Ol` Joe
March 7, 2009, 12:26 PM
You could try one of these.... http://www.mauserwaffen.de/M-98.64.0.html?&L=1
:evil:

Dragk913
March 7, 2009, 12:28 PM
I understand that Mitchell's has some wartime K98 type Swedish Mausers complete with Deaths head stamps. Very collectible.

According to just about everyone here, Mitchell's is a big scam. The rifles are all redone and restamped or something. Just do a search for Mitchell's and you'll find multiple threads about it.

elktrout
March 7, 2009, 06:53 PM
What is a good price on a VZ24? I was in a local shop today and saw some on the rack. The tag said the bolt was new. The gun still had cosmoline on it. The price was $250.

I only looked at the tag quickly. What caliber are they usually in?

Hoppy590
March 7, 2009, 09:04 PM
I understand that Mitchell's has some wartime K98 type Swedish Mausers complete with Deaths head stamps. Very collectible.

swedish k98's with totenkopf.... hey, iv got a bridge for sale.

jkingrph
March 7, 2009, 10:39 PM
96 Swede!!!

elmerfudd
March 7, 2009, 11:00 PM
According to just about everyone here, Mitchell's is a big scam. The rifles are all redone and restamped or something. Just do a search for Mitchell's and you'll find multiple threads about it.

I probably should have put a smiley after that post. I know Mitchell's is a scam. I just figured that referring to a Swede as a wartime K98 and including Totenkopf stamps kind of spoke for itself. I believe they've done similar things with M48's however.

A buddy of mine has one of their Afrika Korp rifles. Not a bad rifle, but he could have payed a lot less for something that wasn't a forgery.

Polar Express
March 7, 2009, 11:10 PM
My first large rifle was/is a 8mm Mauser, (8x57), and it's an M98? I think. There is a place on top of the receiver that has some grind marks, I was told that is where the old 'nazi proof mark' was ground off. I believe it was brought back as a war trophy. My dad had the stock cut down as I was much shorter then. I still love that gun, and I'd like to find a full-size stock to put that action into so I could use the gun easier now. I certainly don't want to hi-jack the thread, but is there someone that can tell me where on the gun to look to find out more about what exact model, etc. I have, and perhaps what options I might have to find a new stock?

thanks

Blackfork
March 7, 2009, 11:24 PM
I don't think the Swedes consider their rifle a Mauser at all. Nice rifle though.

Swedes aside I prefer the 1891 Argentine Carbines. Tiny-est Mausers ever made in 7.65. Shot deer with both of mine and handloads. The 1909 Argentine Carbine is the next favorite/
Shot deer with all Swede, Argentines, and K98. They all carry well. Wish I was up for affording a good Swede carbine in 6.5, but, as I said, the Swedes are insulted to hear that called a Mauser. It was designed and built in Sweden.

There's a nice doe knocked down with a WWII bring-back K98 that has an added rear peep sight. Fine rifle.

Gelgoog
March 7, 2009, 11:35 PM
As far as quality it goes South American contract rifles, Persians, Swedes, then its a crap shoot as to which is the best. I have 4 agentines and a venzualen, and they are far superior in fit and finish to yugos or warstock. Swedish mausers are probably the most accurate of the bunch due to the basic ballistics of 6.5mm swede. So those are you best in as far as mausers go. If your only going to buy one mauser, then it might as well be an 8mm Yugo M48 as you can get them in near mint condition and 8mm is dirt cheap right now. for sport shooting get a Swede and for collectors , you get south americans/persians.

Dragk913
March 7, 2009, 11:40 PM
I probably should have put a smiley after that post. I know Mitchell's is a scam. I just figured that referring to a Swede as a wartime K98 and including Totenkopf stamps kind of spoke for itself. I believe they've done similar things with M48's however.

A buddy of mine has one of their Afrika Korp rifles. Not a bad rifle, but he could have payed a lot less for something that wasn't a forgery.

Wow. I can't read :(
All I saw was "Mitchell's"..then I went into a blind rage and started typing. Lol.

High Planes Drifter
March 8, 2009, 12:34 AM
Swedish 6.5x55 by far. It is the peak in bolt action combat rifle design.

Fast bolt, accurate, light recoiling, flat shooting, well built.

BsChoy
March 8, 2009, 11:15 AM
My favorite Mauser is the M96 swede but not the full length, the M38. But, for historical purposes its hard to beat the allure of the German K98k, I will never give up my BNZ 4!

MachIVshooter
March 8, 2009, 02:21 PM
My first large rifle was/is a 8mm Mauser, (8x57), and it's an M98? I think. There is a place on top of the receiver that has some grind marks, I was told that is where the old 'nazi proof mark' was ground off.

I'd double check that. The rifles most notorious for grinder marks atop the receiver are the Arisaka, which are a Mauser based design. Though I haven't tried it, I imagine some of them could chamber and fire 8x57 (the Arisaka is 7.7x58). Not safe, though.

Elbert P . Suggins
March 8, 2009, 02:45 PM
I have a K98 that has a couple of swastikas stamped on it. How do K98s compare? I've shot it from a lead sled but the front slight is over to the right as far as you can get it, but its grouping is tight. But that front sight positioned that way drives me crazy.

IndianaBoy
March 8, 2009, 04:55 PM
I have a Yugo M48 that is a fine shooter and I haven't had a lick of problems with it.

I have a PILE of ammo that I intend to put through it. And I deer hunt with it.



But from what I have read (who knows what the info is worth), the 24/47 is a superior rifle and the VZ 24 is better yet.

The czech mausers that aimsurplus has right now is exactly what I would buy if I were looking for a mauser right now.

Dragk913
March 8, 2009, 08:34 PM
Would it make sense to buy a K98 and start stockpiling ammo for an End of the World/civil unrest/moving to the forest/SHTF situation? or is the 8mm not common enough for searching for ammo once the population has died off (think Resident Evil: Extinction/Mad Max)?

I know the "shtf" threads are pretty annoying, but I've always loved K98's and I don't have any rifles..so I figured now is as good a time as any.


Please and Thank you!:D

lionking
March 8, 2009, 11:16 PM
I have collected a few,specially in the past couple years.Defining best is hard to do for me.It really depends on the individual rifle since there will be varying degrees of fit and finish since most are surplus.

So far I have 3 Argentine 1909 , 2 Brazilian 1908,Chilean 1895,Venezuelan 24/30,Venezuelan 24/30 target rifle,2 Persian BRNO,Czech 98/22,Turkish,K98,Portuguese Vergueiro 04/39,3 Swedish m96,Swedish m38,2 Yugo 24/47

I think that's it:confused:But all are in excellent condition and I have to say overall South American contract mausers and FN mausers are the best as far as craftmanship,but they tend to be pricy because also.The Persian and Swedes are top notch also.

As far as bang for the buck,the Yugoslavian's are hard to beat,so is a Russian capture K98 if with excellent barrel.

Having shot all of them though,for the most part most of them do 2 to 2-1/2 inch groups @100yds,with some doing 3 or 3 1/2 inches all depending on ammo and how good I shoot at the time.Actually one of my accurate so far has been the Czech 98/22 which isn't that of a expensive rifle to find.

You may have to work the front sight though,either by replacing it or building it up because some do shoot high at 100yds,if you want to get it shooting bulls at that range.

can I post pics?:p

DavidB2
March 8, 2009, 11:21 PM
I went to a couple of gun shops in the local LV area and to Sportsmans Warehouse. There was a lot of 8MM ammo available. Besides the .303 ammo; it was the most military surplus ammo in supply. This means that I will probably be shooting my m48 more than my other military surplus rifles (Mosin, Krag, even SKS). Hopefully, the gunshow this next weekend will allow me to replinish my ammo supplies.

mordechaianiliewicz
March 9, 2009, 12:08 AM
Another vote for the 24/47. Not only is the design solid, quite a few of them are in like new condition. Lot of bright shiny bores. That to me is also a big plus compared to getting a war capture K.98 or other somesuch that's for sale right now out of the catalogs.

geojap
March 9, 2009, 12:29 AM
Swede for sure. I've probably owned about 25 Mausers and the Swedes are for sure the best. Persians are possibly equal to them in craftsmanship but I like the 6.5x55 round more than 8mm.

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