Question about a Garand


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squirrel sniper
March 6, 2009, 05:07 PM
A month or so back, i got a semi-sporterized P14 enfield, and while it is a very nice rifle, I sure wasn't gonna pay for commercial ammo, so i decided i would get a basic reloading setup to save some money. Before dropping any money on equipment, I went looking for componenets, and I came up dry. I couldnt find much, and what i could find was too pricey for reloading costs, so i believe im going to cut my loses and get a new rifle. I think im gonna get a .30-06, and the one .30-06 I've always wanted is a garand, so I want some opinions, since im already selling my Kel-Tec Sub 2000 to get a rifle, should I put a 10/22 on the back burner and get a garand? Or should i not fool with a centerfire and just get a .22? Any opinions or resources you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. If you know anybody looking for a P14 enfield, send me a pm and I can get you pictures, thanks.

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MMCSRET
March 6, 2009, 05:52 PM
More info please. You said semi sporterized, Does that mean that it is not a 303 British? If not, what caliber is it chambered for?

squirrel sniper
March 6, 2009, 05:57 PM
Its still a .303, but it has a new stock on it. Its a monto carlo, but it has a sqaured off front end, like an Anschutz stock. The finish is still good, but a little worn. No obvious rust, and the rifling and bore look pretty good. I'll do my best to get some pics and put em up in a little while.

NCsmitty
March 6, 2009, 05:59 PM
Why don't you give the P-14 a chance? Buy some Prvi-Partizan or Wolf Gold 303 ammo, they are made at the same plant and use the same components from what I understand. You will then have brass for reloading and bullets will be little more than what you would pay for .308 size bullets. The difference between loading 303 and '06 is hardly noticeable, component wise.
The 1917 and P-14 Enfields are some of the strongest actions ever made so you can push the envelope on those 303's.
That's something you cannot do with the British Lee Enfields.

NCsmitty

husker
March 6, 2009, 06:04 PM
i bought the lee 50th anniversary reloading kit and dies for $100. its a singal stage but for the first time reloading guy i didnt think it was a bad place to start. i have learned a lot from loading my own 45acp and i am ready to move up to 5.56. you can get a vibrating brass cleaner for under $50 to. i recomened this as a good kit for the newB. it comes with challenger-0 frame press,priming tool,perfect powder measure-n-stand,funnel,case trimmer,chamfer tool,primer pocket cleaner,sizing lube,saftey power scale,breach lock quick change bushings,=$85 at cabelas

squirrel sniper
March 6, 2009, 06:35 PM
Im not knocking the .303, i just dont want to have to buy loaded ammo to get reloadable brass, and i cant find much in the way component brass. The small amount of brass I can find is more expensive than .30-06, and not as easy to get. Also, it would be a lot easier to get free brass, I know a couple people that have 06's, so i can get their stuff, since they dont reload.
HUSKER- thats about the kit I plan to get, anything I should know, or any accesories that make life easier?

dmftoy1
March 6, 2009, 07:19 PM
Get the Garand . .. .$596 from the CMP and cheap ammo. Current wait is around 100 days, but the smiles you get when you hear:

Bang bang bang bang . . .Bang . .bang bang bang PING


Is Priceless!

61chalk
March 6, 2009, 08:20 PM
If you live near Ohio, or I think Alabama, they have CMP store, an you can hand pick your Garand, I'm
thinking of becoming a CMP member
to get one myself, remember, you can't fire modern 30-06 ammo in it,
its too much pressure for the gas ports, at least thats what I was told, but there (CMP) ammo is alot
cheaper. Does anyone know if you
join the American Legion if that also
makes you a member of CMP, so you
can go there an buy one....

Sunray
March 6, 2009, 09:57 PM
Don't believe the American Legion counts. Go here for the eligibilty requirements.
http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm
Midway has lots of .303 British brass and components. Winchester brass runs $193.99 per 500. Sierra 174 grain Matchkings run $137.99 per 500. 150 grain Pro-hunters run $24.49 per 100.

chrissmallwood
March 6, 2009, 11:24 PM
The American Legion does count towards the requirements to buy. I just joined the Garand Collectors Association. Its only $25 and it seems to be a good club to join.

jpwilly
March 6, 2009, 11:25 PM
Remington makes inexpensive 303 brass I think pretty much the same cost as 30-06 brass. Why not just load that?

squirrel sniper
March 7, 2009, 04:04 PM
im just looking down the road, and i think in the long run, it will be easier to get .30-06 cases and standard .308 bullets, instead of fooling with .303 brass and the variety of bullet sizes one can find. But i think I may scratch the garand, as it is more picky about ammo, and i think a bolt gun would be easier to load for, not having to worry about slam fires or not getting enough pressure. That and if/when i start using cast bullets, it wont be as difficult to clean, sonce it doesnt have a gas system to foul up.

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