Remington New Pocket vs. Uberti 1849 Pocket
Guvnor
March 6, 2009, 06:11 PM
Im interested in getting one of these .31's just for kicks but cant decide which one. Is one more reliable or accurate than the other? I notice the Uberti costs slightly more than the new pocket, is it a better quality gun?
Thanks for the help.
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Sagetown
March 6, 2009, 07:38 PM
Guvnor
I'm getting the Pietta from my brother. I think they are both of good quality. However; I do like the Uberti with the trigger guard. Some have a SQUARE guard and some have the ROUND.
p.s. One of the Uberti's has a loading lever, which makes it more convenient.
sltm1
March 6, 2009, 08:31 PM
Size matters, the Remmie is smaller by at least an inch. The spur trigger isn't as handy as slipping your finger into a trigger guard. But, if you like Remmies like I do, you should get it first and like most bp junkies, you'll eventually get the Colt too LOL!!
Old Fuff
March 6, 2009, 10:22 PM
If you intend to shoot it, you will find the Uberti/Colt 1849 Pocket Model (with bullet rammer) to be the better choice. The Remington is smaller, more difficult to hit anything with, and harder to load.
If you decide to get the Uberti, be aware that Texas Jack (www.texasjacks.com) which is a division of Cimarron Firearms, one of the better improters is having a sale on the 1849 model @ $269.95
An optional cylinder is available chambered in .32 S&W
Sagetown
March 6, 2009, 11:06 PM
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Old Fuff
March 6, 2009, 11:51 PM
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madcratebuilder
March 6, 2009, 11:55 PM
I bought a Uberti 49 pocket, poorest fit revolver I have bought. End of the arbor was bent, very poor frame to barrel fit, no cylinder gap, cylinder hand so long that you could not get to full cock on several cylinders. Now I like working on them so I has having fun fixing it, but if you want to shoot it out of the box, take a good look at it first.
Sagetown
March 7, 2009, 12:02 AM
Posted by madcratebuilder: poorest fit revolver I have bought:uhoh:
Ouch! That one must have came out of the scrap pile. Sorry to hear that. :(
Posted by Old Fuff: The Old Fuff is not a nice person
Aw, Olf Fuff; it aint you, it's me. Some people like chocolate. I just happen to like guns. Come to think of it, I like chocolate too. Hmmmm.......
Old Fuff
March 7, 2009, 12:10 AM
Now I like working on them so I has having fun fixing it, but if you want to shoot it out of the box, take a good look at it first.
Or buy it from an importer/dealer who will stand behind it, and if necessary make an exchange for a different one. There may be others, but I would suggest:
www.cimarron-firearms.com
www.dixiegunworks.com
www.texasjacks.com
arcticap
March 7, 2009, 12:58 AM
Reading flibuste's range report about the Uberti Colt Pocket .31 really makes it "A-okay" to want one again! :)
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=377613
Check out his last target after the new front sight was installed.
madcratebuilder
March 7, 2009, 08:20 AM
Or buy it from an importer/dealer who will stand behind it, and if necessary make an exchange for a different one.
Good point old fuff, if it had come from a retailer I would have returned it. I bought from a private party off GB and paid less than half of retail so I shouldn't complain to much.
It was a good learning experience, first time I welded metal to a arbor slot or surfaced a forcing cone.
Old Fuff
March 7, 2009, 09:07 AM
AH sooooo.....
In past years the Italian makers were not up to the standards they are now. There were a number of reasons for this, the prime one being that the quality of much of there tooling was not what it is now. They also put more effort into the larger .36 Navy/.44 Army revolvers because that's where most of the "shooter" market was, and customers demanded "shootable" grade revolvers. It didn't hurt when a European market developed because of relaxed laws on C&B firearms. Last but not least, they still seem to have a problem training assemblers how to correctly assemble the lockwork, but in fairness no one ever taught them in the first place, and there are very few people left now who know how it was done.
Now that Beretta bought out Uberti and set them up in a completely new and re-tooled factory there has been a noticeable improvement.
The '49 Pocket Model's I've looked at during past SHOT Shows that were displayed by Cimarron, Dixie and Uberti themselves have always been more then acceptable, but that would be expected.
Guvnor
March 7, 2009, 09:10 AM
Thanks guys.
I think im leaning more toward the Uberti 1849 now since there is the option of the .32 s&w cylinder.
Sagetown
March 7, 2009, 12:33 PM
Posted by: Old Fuff _ Now that Beretta bought out Uberti and set them up in a completely new and re-tooled factory there has been a noticeable improvement.
:) I like that report. Sometime back when Beretta took over Uberti, I figured for the worse.
Old Fuff
March 7, 2009, 01:09 PM
Sometime back when Beretta took over Uberti, I figured for the worse.
For some time Beretta had been watching the hot Cowboy Action Shooting market in the United States, and elsewhere when local gun control laws allowed it. In addition there was a growing C&B market in Europe because these laws were more relaxed when it came to non-metallic ammunition arms.
Beretta also knew that they would have to go head-to-head with Ruger, which had successfully captured the lion share of the U.S. Market.
They could go two ways - either start their own operation, or buy an established player. They chose to make Uberti an offer he couldn't refuse.
There have been mixed results. On one had Beretta's investment in Uberti has made they're revolvers better, but on the other hand they haven't been able to make a serious dent in Ruger's share of the CAS market. However Uberti single action revolvers have made a hit with those that want a modestly priced clone that's exactly like the original Colt. In this context they offer a great value. Uberti/Beretta have also done well in the "cowboy rifle" segment of the market.
On our side of the coin, Uberti's better-made C&B revolvers has to be a plus.
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