Heard a rumor about kimber true or false


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rcxdm40
March 6, 2009, 09:28 PM
Was in a gun shop today looking at 1911's and the gun shop owner said that kimber pistols are made by smith & wesson and their rifles are made by savage anyway is this total bs or what?

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2RCO
March 6, 2009, 09:37 PM
BS..... Although they all do outsource parts from a handful of manufacturers of small parts on the 1911's.

Radagast
March 7, 2009, 07:52 AM
Kimber used to buy frames from S&W, not sure if this is still the case. No idea on the rifles.

JohnBT
March 7, 2009, 10:21 AM
Kimber used to buy forgings from S&W, but that was years ago. I have no idea if they still do. They've always milled their own receivers and slides from these chunks of metal.

"In the current (November 2003 VolumeXV, Number 11) issue of Gun Tests,
Dwight Van Brunt of Kimber Manufacturing writes "Kimber does not and
never has used 'castings' for slides and frames...
"Kimber does not and never has sourced the machining of slides or
frames. We have always done it ourselves in Yonkers.
"Our relationship with Smith and Wesson has been limited to
purchasing raw forgings - little more than a brick of steel. Further,
S&W is just one of several sources for forgings we have done business
with in the past."

Maybe this will put the issue to rest. Or not."

John

CajunBass
March 7, 2009, 10:25 AM
the gun shop owner said

This is usually your first clue to grab a shovel.

Davionmaximus
March 7, 2009, 10:42 AM
Must have a "spiff" on S&W this month... ;p

TRGRHPY
March 7, 2009, 07:49 PM
Not all gun shop owners are like that. Store owners, like people in general, come with varying degrees of knowledge. Some are extremely knowledgeable and some are not, with a majority falling somewhere in between.

possum
March 10, 2009, 03:38 AM
that is not true.

like the above poster said they did use to get frames from s&w.

freakshow10mm
March 10, 2009, 03:55 AM
Kimber has always made their frames in house. They only bought forgings from S&W because S&W has a forging mill.

Next time the gun shop jockey talks BS, punch him in the weiner and never go back.

rbernie
March 10, 2009, 09:25 AM
Next time the gun shop jockey talks BS, punch him in the weiner and never go back.I don't recommend the punching part.

Mad Magyar
March 10, 2009, 09:52 AM
A side note, what is true that Kimber started out as an importer for the fabulous "Daewoo" pistols.....The other rumor is just that....

krs
March 10, 2009, 10:49 AM
What is a "Forging Mill"?

An oxymoron, that's what it is. Like "Hot Ice Cream"

rscalzo
March 10, 2009, 11:49 AM
Kimber recently enlarged their operation and bought a larger building in NJ last year when the NY expansion fell through.

freakshow10mm
March 10, 2009, 11:55 AM
What is a "Forging Mill"?
In the steel industry, a forging mill is a factory where forgings are made. Some people call them a foundry. Some call them a mill.

Rinspeed
March 10, 2009, 01:45 PM
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if S&W still supplied the frame blanks to Kimber. From what I've read S&W's foundry is top notch and they supply a great deal of parts to the gun industry. For those that don't know Kimber/Jerico used to supply Wilson Combat, among others, with all their completed slides and frames. One of the reasons Kimber bought Jerico was because they were well established with military/gov. contracts and already had most of the tooling that was needed.

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