[rbernie]

I can see having a folding stock on a shotgun that gets carried a lot and shot litle, but what is the rationale for putting a folding stock on a HD shotgun that (by definition) spends its life in a ready position inside the house? I presume that there is a valid rationale for this, but I cannot imagine what it is....

[lipadj46]

They look cool?

[Monolith]

They are useless, really. My brother got a mossy 500 and set it up with a folding stock and a pistol grip. It was more painful to shoot with the folding stock than just the pistol grip. That, and when you really want it, they take a bit to get into place.

[rcmodel]

There are a few Masochists among us?

And a few who like form over function?

rc

[earlthegoat2]

Another piece of "tactical" trash that has no business being on tactical shotguns. The same reason optics are on the HD shotgun as well.

[sm]

1. Teh Intraw3z
2. There is a difference in shotgunners, and those that own a shotgun.

[vicdotcom]

Storage would be the only benifit I can think of. In case I have to store it in a trunk or something?? lol

[mr2guru]

Compact storage.

[Rshooter]

I have a PG/folding stock shotgun that gets fired in both configurations more than my other two in full stock configuration. I just like this type of shotgun. I find it more useful than a shotgun with shell holders, lights, sirens and can openers too.

[BTR]

Easier to hide/stash somewhere. And is tacticool.

[4v50 Gary]

I had a factory folder my Rem 870. Then I found out how much it hurts the web of the palm when fired. I also disliked the cold steel against my cheek. So, off came the plastic and on went a four shell capacity Speedfeed stock. It also has a Side-saddle for a total of ten extra rounds.

[steak-knife]

Other than storage, and perhaps a bit easier to swing around in close quarters, pistol grips/folding stocks on shotgun does not lend itself to quick follow-up shots because of the grip angle and the "damn that smarts" pain that comes with it.

As an alternative, I would recommend the traditional Hogue Overmold stocks with a 12" lenght of pull, i.e. a youth stock. It makes the shotgun just a little bit more compact, and you still have the proper grip angle.

Also, I happen to like a few bells and whistles on my shotty, and highly recommend also getting the mesa tactical side-saddles, the GG&G single point sling mount, factory mag extention, and a flashlight/rail mount.

[22lr]

I got a AR style stock for my 500. It makes bird shot feel like your shooting highbrass loads, and highbrass well ill just say they really push you around. I prefer my factory stock. They do handle really nice but I dont think there worth it if you actually plan on shooting it a lot. But thats just me.

[withdrawn34]

Well, there probably isn't a reason to ask about practicality. How many people really do everything with a solid reason? Plenty of us to be sure, but then, one could ask why we all own so many guns.

It's just tacticool, really. I don't see the point either and think its kind of silly for a HD weapon, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Just don't miss your mark.

[Todd A]

a folding stock on a HD shotgun that (by definition) spends its life in a ready position inside the house? I presume that there is a valid rationale for this, but I cannot imagine what it is....

Because my HD shotgun is also my hiking/camping/back-packing gun.:)

And cause I happen to like a folder.:neener:

Yes it does hurt more, they do have a bit of "play" when locked, but if you actually take them out and shoot you can learn to overcome the short comings.

Easier to shoot than a fixed stock? No.

But I like it. To each his own I guess.:scrutiny:

Besides I like being a Mall Ninja :D

[sm]

Todd my friend,
what you need is a jigged red bone stock , with a Shrade- Walden knife shield on that folding scattergun of yours.

For BBQ functions, you need the Imperial Imitation Mother of Pearl stock, with the Imperial knife shield.

Stick a Roy Rogers pocket knife in your pocket and you can sneak up on mall ninjas with them scatterguns without them ever knowing.


Head up 'em up, move 'em out, Rawhide!


*what-am-i-gonna-do-with-the-boy*

[Todd A]

what you need is a jigged red bone stock , with a Shrade- Walden knife shield on that folding scattergun of yours.

Steve....that would be sweeeeetttt. Peachseed jigging of course.:D

For BBQ functions, you need the Imperial Imitation Mother of Pearl stock, with the Imperial knife shield.

Now you're just being silly. That would be to fancy for a BBQ. Church maybe,but a BBQ ? :neener:

[sm]

That there exchange between Todd and I, is a good example of "agreeing to disagree", and being "civil and polite".

Dang whippersnapper don't know getting BBQ stains on a BBQ gun stocks, gets them sweet young thangs attention.

"Studpuppy, you have BBQ stains on your gun stock, here, let me assist you".

Todd, pay attention will ya, I is trying to learn ya something.

*grin*

[scottishclaymore]

Well I have a folder on mine. But this is because it stays in a tennis racket bag slung over my shoulder most of the time. Came in handy at least once like that, too. And perfectly legal.

[rbernie]

And that makes sense. But my question was about why folk put folding stocks on shotguns that were by definition for home defense and didn't need to be toted about.

I'm guessing that the answer is simply that 'it looks tactical'.

[PT1911]

I prefer a 6 position with a pistol grip for a secure grip and more comfortable and "custom" fit to what makes you comfortable with the gun...

[CapnMac]

But my question was about why folk put folding stocks on shotguns that were by definition for home defense and didn't need to be toted about

Like as not, no one told them any better. So, at first glance, it looks "handier" to get through doorways and the like.

Which may speak to the number of folk who have ever "run" their own home with an HD pick.

[Avenger29]

If it's staying in the house...then, no, there is no reason to have one. I like the Speedfeed II synthetic stock...nice stout feeling. Good package deal if you are looking for a stock, too...

[BhmBill]

Just get a effin Knoxx recoil reducin pistol grippy or stock. Money well spent if you can't handle 12ga. Are you so cramped for space that you really need a under/over folder on your shotgun?

[CWL]

Because the movies and TV tell us that they look cool.

I see no other reason.

[4thPointOfContact]

My HD shotgun doesn't NEED any fancy schmancy new-fangled folding stock.

With a 18-inch barrel, it's barely 27-inches long just as it is. Bullpups can be so cute in a only-a-mother-could-love-something-so-ugly kind of way.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/unnamed-source/DSC00259.jpg

[Gordon]

That is way kewl! While they are not my first choice on a combat SG, and none of my HD guns have them, this one has been on duty in trucks and motor homes 25 years and is nice to have and quickly deployed.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/spring2008110.jpg

[proud2deviate]

That bullpup is certainly interesting. How's the recoil and report from the shooter's perspective? I imagine having the ejection port that close to your ear would be, well, exciting.

How's the trigger pull?

[Big Daddy Grim]

I got mine because it holds extra rounds in the stock and more rounds is always good course I don't really fold it much but with the 9 in the gun and the 8 on the stock it makes me feel better incase somthing bad happens I got plenty of rounds.

[4thPointOfContact]

That bullpup is certainly interesting. How's the recoil and report from the shooter's perspective? I imagine having the ejection port that close to your ear would be, well, exciting.

How's the trigger pull?

Recoil is quite manageable, mild even. Having the barrel completely in line with the shoulder no doubt helps that. I can fire a full magazine into a target at 15-yards without going off the target. (High Standard recommended full-strength high-brass loads but it works extremely well with Federal LE132-00 low recoil rounds)

The ejection port is really a non-issue, you never really notice the shells being ejected at all unless you are concentrating on that instead of the target ahead. Don't try it left handed though, or results will be quite different unless you use a rather non-standard technique.

Trigger pull is mushy as one would expect for a weapon converted from a conventional action to a bullpup. A weapon built as a dedicated bullpup could be much better if properly designed. Trigger pull could be 'perfect' if not for certain BATFE decisions.


I really wish some manufacturer would reintroduce the concept. The differences between the Model 10B and a conventional shotgun is a plastic shell and about a half dozen assorted miscellaneous pieces.

If one started from scratch, I'd like to imagine a shotgun that loaded in a manner similar to the Neostead (twin magazine tubes) and ejected from the bottom. That would take care of any left-handed, right-handed problems.

[ArmedBear]

Because too many people don't know a cheek weld from a broken jaw?