Got a Micro Desert Eagle - pics


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gbelleh
March 7, 2009, 05:40 PM
I found this Micro Desert Eagle at a gun show today, and came home with it. It was lighter than I expected, and seems very high quality. Now I just have to go shoot it.

Here are some size comparison pics of it next to my P3AT and Series 70 Colt. The pics aren't great, but should give an idea of the size and width.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at2.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at3.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at6.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at5.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at4.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_colt1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/gbelleh/mde_p3at1.jpg

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22lr
March 7, 2009, 05:46 PM
Nice find. I would love one of those things.

PPGMD
March 7, 2009, 05:49 PM
Looks like it's shorter, but it's also wider. But IMO for the market market width would be the most important attribute once you get under a certain length and height).

eddie c-clamp
March 7, 2009, 07:35 PM
Looks like a nice unit. I'm guessing that the protruding mag acts as a finger extension. hows the recoil?

kokapelli
March 7, 2009, 07:50 PM
Looks like a nice unit. I'm guessing that the protruding mag acts as a finger extension. hows the recoil?
He just purchased it and hasn't shot it yet, but I have shot mine twice now and the last time was with HOT Buffalo Bore ammo.

Recoil isn't a problem and the pistol shoots everything without a hiccup and accuracy is very good for the Micro's size.


http://4jer.250free.com/images/Micro.jpg

bannockburn
March 8, 2009, 12:08 AM
gbelleh

Great pics, especially the side-by-side comparison ones with the P3AT. I handled one recently at a gun show, and while I was impressed by its small size and quality construction, I thought the overall width and weight were slight drawbacks to an otherwise interesting concept and design. Hope to read a range report from you very soon.

verdun59
March 8, 2009, 04:57 PM
I agree with Kokapelli, the recoil is not bad realizing that it is a blow back, and not a locked breech. The gun is well made and requires no fluffing and buffing. It's a quality product.

mgregg85
March 9, 2009, 01:14 AM
How much if you don't mind telling?

gbelleh
March 9, 2009, 02:01 AM
$500 cash out the door. That's about the best price I've seen anywhere. Another dealer there had one for (IIRC) $530 + tax.

kokapelli
March 9, 2009, 11:04 AM
Mine was $499 + tax.

verdun59
March 9, 2009, 11:16 AM
Mine was $499.00 plus the gouge of state tax.

LightningCrash
March 9, 2009, 02:51 PM
Does anybody have both a VZI KEVIN and a Micro Eagle?

Marcus84
March 9, 2009, 04:17 PM
Cool gun never heard of it.

gwillys
March 9, 2009, 08:14 PM
mine was $490 back in early december. that shop is up to $510 now

hey kokapelli, how did it go with the buffalo bore gold dot? how many rounds did you put thru it?

kokapelli
March 9, 2009, 08:44 PM
hey kokapelli, how did it go with the buffalo bore gold dot? how many rounds did you put thru it?
Fired 20 rounds of the Buffalo Bore/Gold Dot.

I ordered two boxes of it and figured I'd use one box for reliability testing.

The Buffalo Bore is definitely hotter than the other ammo I have used but recoil isn't a problem.

Accuracy was good and all the rounds fed, fire and ejected perfectly. Good stuff!:)

ComradeBurg
March 10, 2009, 01:48 AM
Wow that's a small one. Looks nice, and is perfectly sized for a pocket gun.

gwillys
March 10, 2009, 09:56 AM
Quote:
"Looks like it's shorter, but it's also wider. But IMO for the market, width would be the most important attribute once you get under a certain length and height)."

i'd say reliability is most important, and the ME380 may be tops in that department. introduced in 2007, the Czech ZVI Kevin was designed, tested and adopted for military use, which cant be said for the others. no screwing around, no recalls, good to go out of the box.

its perfect for me in a wallet holster. i can have it out & firing in 3 seconds, and i'm a clumsy old buffoon.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/gwillys/walletrig.jpg

kokapelli
March 10, 2009, 05:11 PM
Got the two extra magazines I ordered from Magnum Research today.

Having three magazines will make the thursday shooting session better this week.

The magazines are marked "made in Czech Republic."

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that a lot of the Micro's components were made in the Czech Republic.

gwillys
March 10, 2009, 05:15 PM
yep, i read somewhere that MR cnc's the frame & slide and uses ZVI supplied kits to complete.

thanks kokapelli, ordered 2 boxes of buffalo bore 27C/20 (http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=129) last nite @ $1.40 per round - yikes.
but 1200fps M.E./288 ft. lbs is pretty remarkable for 380. less from a 2.2" barrel, maybe around 1100 fps? the shortest barrel they tested was the 2.75" keltech.

Speer Gold Dot claims 900 fps/196 ft/lb, but thats from a test barrel. probably considerably less from a 2.2" barrel.

kokapelli
March 11, 2009, 12:14 PM
thanks kokapelli, ordered 2 boxes of buffalo bore 27C/20 last nite @ $1.40 per round - yikes.
but 1200fps M.E./288 ft. lbs is pretty remarkable for 380. less from a 2.2" barrel, maybe around 1100 fps? the shortest barrel they tested was the 2.75" keltech.

Speer Gold Dot claims 900 fps/196 ft/lb, but thats from a test barrel. probably considerably less from a 2.2" barrel.

In Jeff Quinn's tests (http://www.gunblast.com/MicroDesertEagle.htm) the Buffalo Bore 27C/20 round clocked 969.5 from the Micro.

At almost 1000 fps the Gold Dot should preform well from the little Micro.:)

Because of the increase in chamber pressure I plan on only using the Buffalo Bore ammo sparingly and will keep one round in the chamber and possibly one on the top of the magazine backed up with five rounds of good fmj ammo.

I did email Buffalo Bore about chamber pressure worries before I ordered the ammo and Tim Sundles at Buffalo Bore assured me there was no problem.

gwillys
March 11, 2009, 03:05 PM
interesting - BB GD did 1077fps in the lcp. looks like that .5" makes a big difference. no matter, im still happier than a possum at pokeberry time.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/gwillys/1198949184_2bb1c1c678.jpg

kokapelli
March 11, 2009, 03:54 PM
interesting - BB GD did 1077fps in the lcp. looks like that .5" makes a big difference. no matter, im still happier than a possum at pokeberry time.

And I think it was even faster from the Kahr P380, but I like the pistol and expected slower velocity from the shorter barrel.

I have three P-3ATs that are reliable, but I like the Micro much better because It doesn't have the smilie problem that both the P-3AT and LCP have and it is in my hands certainly more accurate than the P-3AT and appears to be of much higher quality.

gwillys
March 11, 2009, 04:33 PM
the Kahr was a few fps slower than the lcp. Jeff measures fps twelve feet from the muzzle. wonder what he'd clock @ 0 to 6', 6' being a more likely scenario for SD. be interesting to see the differrence, not that im interested in a numbers game. it is what it is. interesting stuff though.

brett30030
March 11, 2009, 10:54 PM
gwillys
i'd say reliability is most important, and the ME380 may be tops in that department. introduced in 2007, the Czech ZVI Kevin was designed, tested and adopted for military use, which cant be said for the others. no screwing around, no recalls, good to go out of the box.

Why would any modern military have a .380 for concealed carry?

gwillys
March 11, 2009, 11:13 PM
well, you know those crazy europeans :)

ZVI Kevin (http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html)

http://www.zvi.cz/foto/1003.jpg

http://www.zvi.cz/foto/1005.jpg

http://www.zvi.cz/foto/1020.jpg

http://www.zvi.cz/foto/1033.jpg

GZOh_Jr
March 12, 2009, 12:02 AM
Not to deviate from the thread, but the ZVI Kevin also comes in 9mm Mak. Interesting. http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/9-mm-pistol-kevin.html

1) I wonder if that is a possibility here in the US.

2) I wonder how much worse (if at all) the recoil might be.

I could be wrong, but I estimate the 9mm Mak to be more akin to .38 Special performance, with .380 being less than a .38 (do you all agree with that generalization?). That, along with Mak ammo being cheaper, would make the Mak-chambered pistol more appealing to me.

But back on topic, I am pretty impressed with your new toys, guys!

GZOh_Jr
March 12, 2009, 12:04 AM
P.S....

Their Plamen system is also pretty cool.

http://www.zvi.cz/en/products/20-mm-gun-pod-plamen.html

:evil:

gwillys
March 12, 2009, 08:25 AM
A Comparison of 9x18mm Makarov, .380 ACP, and .38 Special (2" barrel) (http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Comparisonof9x18mmMakarovetc.htm)

Braveheart
March 31, 2009, 11:57 AM
I bought a MDE last Friday. I have only been able to get Independence brand ammo so far. The gun jams every 2nd or 3rd shot. Another thread says it's the ammo, not the gun. I hope so.

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