Tom or Arnold. (No, not Tom Arnold)


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Drjones
October 6, 2003, 02:24 AM
Well?

Tom is the right man, any non-liberal should know that.

I talked to some people this weekend, and I think that even many of Arnold's supporters know Tom is the right man, but Arnold is so far ahead in the polls, they are voting for Arnie so as to not chance giving the state to mexico. (Via bustamexiforniamante)

Tom has said it, and I believe it is true: If everyone who knows that he is the right man for the job voted for him, he would win. But that's not what people are going to do, most likely.

I don't want to risk giving the state to that crooked democrat more than anyone else, but also know how darn right Tom is for the job.

I also want to give him my vote so as to encourage him to run again in the next election. Has he said if he would or not?

Opinions? Latest polls? *sigh*:(

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Moparmike
October 6, 2003, 03:39 AM
[CR Sam]

Doing the right thing isnt always the easy thing to do. But it is always the right thing to do.

[/CR Sam]

In anycase, best of luck to Tom McClintock.:)

gunsmith
October 6, 2003, 06:33 AM
The same people who told me the recall will never happen
are now telling me to vote for bill clinton with muscles.
I am voting for Tom.
When the Repubs ask for $$$ I will tell them I gave it all to TOM!
the Repubs who backed Arnie have lost my vote forever

2dogs
October 6, 2003, 06:48 AM
California gun owners, George Bush is watching you

By David Codrea
codrea4@adelphia.net

October 6, 2003

California gun owners, George Bush is watching you.

Why?

Because on September 13, 2004, the unconstitutional federal ban against militia-suitable firearms and their standard capacity magazines is scheduled to sunset.

So what does that have to do with George Bush?

The president has said he favors extending the ban, giving cover to the Republican-dominated Congress to reenact it, or even make it permanent and strengthen it, via the Conyers/McCarthy-introduced “Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003."

So why is George Bush watching California gun owners?

Because GOP gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger also supports banning “assault weapons” and enacting additionally restrictive “gun control” edicts. So if gun owners can be cowed into voting for Arnold, as opposed to proven Second Amendment champion Tom McClintock, Bush will have a pretty good indicator of just how far he can betray them without political consequences.

And if the polls are indicative of Tuesday’s election results, the answer will pretty much be “totally.”

If gun owners vote for Schwarzenegger, they will once more validate former Republican Party National Chair Lee Atwater’s cynical dismissal, “Where else do [they] have to go?”

Over the past few weeks, it has been demonstrated beyond dispute that Arnold is an enemy of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Gun owners who vote for Arnold out of fear will have proven themselves every bit the manipulated cowards Atwater deemed them.

Arnold’s handlers tell us we must vote for him because McClintock is “too conservative” and cannot win. Yet a recent Gallup poll demonstrates “when McClintock is pitted against just Bustamante, among probable voters the Republican state senator beats the Democratic candidate handily -- by 19 percentage points.”

They offer a carrot, and tell us McClintock should bow out and run for future office, where he’ll have unified party support. What an empty promise—the same group of “moderates” opposing him now will have proven that their formula of compromise and betrayal works, write McClintock off again as “too conservative,” and push another “Big Tent” candidate—maybe even another one with Hollywood name recognition: The Republicans are making noises about running comedian Dennis Miller or actor Kelsey Grammer in future statewide races—both newly self-outed neocons who have never uttered a public word about the Second Amendment, and neither with the demonstrated political qualifications to run for dog catcher—but sure crowd pleasers for a celebrity-worshipping public.

And they offer a stick, telling us McClintock acting as a “spoiler” will end his political career, and promising to exact revenge on him later. What a hollow threat—as if any group so untethered from core values would have the guts in future contests to oppose any candidate they view as having the best chance—regardless of what he has or has not done.

As for splitting the Republican vote, it is Arnold’s backers who have done so—intentionally—in the culmination of what has been an ongoing struggle for “moderate” domination of Golden State GOP politics. The fact is, Gray Davis or Cruz Bustamante will be no worse for gun owners than Arnold Schwarzenegger. They might even be better, as Republican legislators would at least offer a nominal resistance to a Democrat governor, whereas with Arnold in office, they would be inclined to support him out of “party loyalty” (and what a pathetic oxymoron that has turned out to be.)

The fact is, if you let the GOP betray you and still reward them, you will have proven Lee Atwater was right.

The fact is, if you don’t vote for Tom McClintock, you will be telling all politicians who support us—and they are few and far between—that their faithfulness didn’t count, and that you will turn your back on them whenever someone bluffs you into thinking it is the “pragmatic” thing to do. If you do this, what incentive do you give the “good” politicians to ever stick their necks out for us?

On Tuesday, Oct. 7, I’ll be voting for Tom McClintock, and I’ll do so with a clear conscience. If it turns out that neither Arnold nor Tom wins, I’ll not feel even a twinge of guilt for my decision. I wouldn’t vote for Arnold even if Tom had dropped out, because the fact is, the Republicans haven’t turned their backs on him—they’ve turned them on the people Tom represents. Those who say otherwise just don’t get it—our rights are unalienable and inherent, and anyone who attacks them deserves nothing less than to be repelled.

The GOP establishment has denigrated the Second Amendment in this campaign as a mere “social issue” out of many, instead of what it really is—a keystone of a free republic. It’s time they learned that for some of us—I pray enough—their assault on our right to keep and bear arms under force of law is a declaration of war. So if “they” lose, tough. We gun owners are already living under evil, liberty-restricting edicts, and are in danger of having our lives destroyed if caught defying them.

Until the Republicans learn they cannot betray us, they can just feel our pain.

The fact is, George Bush and his handlers at the national level are watching this election very carefully. Because if gun owners don’t have the courage and integrity to take a principled stand, and through their numbers deny victory to a known antagonist, the future course of the Republican party will be clear.

After all, those leading it have proven to be nothing if not pragmatists.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/Item.asp?ID=3615

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