SKS convert zipper clips to magazine?


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jkcal436
March 8, 2009, 10:48 PM
I bought a 1958 Romanian SKS today. $300 rifle only, wrong bayonet, missing the cleaning rod. It takes the zipper clips. How do I get it to accept duckbill magazines? It looks like the screw on the side would remove the magazine and replace with regular magazine. I would appreciate any advice.

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cane
March 8, 2009, 10:54 PM
What's a "zipper clip"?

jkcal436
March 8, 2009, 11:00 PM
A top loading clip...much like the M1's.

SwearNoAllegiance
March 8, 2009, 11:01 PM
I think you mean stripper clip.

gripper
March 8, 2009, 11:01 PM
Do NOT consider that-That is a NICE SKS,and Sergei will be VERY angy with you! Besdies;that "screw on the side" is actually the crossbolt;stock up on ammo and STRIPPER clips;take th etime to learn how to use them and PRACTICE .
BTW,CONGRATULATIONS on the new arrival;the Romanians are very nice-for $300.00 you done good!.

Nero_Atrum
March 8, 2009, 11:04 PM
You could probably learn to reload it faster with the stripper clips than the magazines.

QuietEarp
March 8, 2009, 11:06 PM
There are some pretty good videos on youtube about how to disassemble the SKS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_Kdn3JQDQ
You should probably become more familiar with your firearm before changing it around. Inspecting and cleaning the bolt is a must IMO before loading the weapon. Most people seem to prefer the standard 10 round attached magazine with stripper clips, I sure do. To take the magazine off you need to take out the trigger assembly and then it comes out easily.
Good luck with your SKS and I would do some research before jumping in to any modifications. The search function on THR is a great place to start.

Sunray
March 8, 2009, 11:06 PM
"..."zipper clip"?..." Stripper clips.
Go here and scroll right down to the bottom. http://www.simonov.net/magazines.htm

gripper
March 8, 2009, 11:11 PM
Additionally,all disassembly for th eSKS can be found on th enet;but it is simple(within certain constraints!)
First,open th emagazine latch,and pull back the bolt-eyeball the chamber to insure its empty.Leave it "cocked",and remove the receiver cover(pin/latch on th eright rear of the receiver;flip i tup ,ease it out to th eright and the cover comes off easily).Withdraw the bolt-both th ecarrier and bolt will come out to the rear;hammer has to be down( why I said to "cock" it)and double check on keeping th e safety engaged.To get to th emagazine removal, I will bypass a couple of things( like gas tube /upper handguard removal,op rod etc).Using either a punch,or the on einside the tool kit(inside the butt stock storage gate)push down on th epost at th erear of th etrigger assembly(AGAIN,make certain the safety is on)..it will take some pressure,but the trigger assembly will "spring out" as a unit.Next ,gently pull down and back on the magazine body-it will come out with some gentle tugging.
BTW,the reason I reccommend keeping the safety on (besides the obvious) is that removing the trigger assembly with it off will cause th esafety spring to disengage-not an easy reinsatll without the proper tools.Hope this helps...Enjoy!

Wheeler44
March 8, 2009, 11:20 PM
It looks like the screw on the side would remove the magazineUmmmmmm......No...as mentioned above that screw does not remove the magazine...look on youtube for SKS disassembly video... some good ones there.

Stripper clips are a very effective way to carry ammo and load an SKS... look for youtube video on that as well...

Don't try to "improve" your SKS until you learn how to use it as designed...You may find that it needs very little improvement at all....Look up Kivaari on the 'net if you need some creep and grittiness removed from your trigger..Look up "tech sights" if you want a "click" adjustable rear peep sight. Shhot it...shoot it some more....shoot it some more....Then decide if you like it or not...


Just my thoughts on Sergei's Karbine....

Wheeler44

AKElroy
March 8, 2009, 11:25 PM
I have two SKS's; I bought the first one 20 years ago & converted to the detachable mag when I replaced the stock. Bought a B-Square scope mount & put a red dot on it. That frankenstien is now a ridicuolous reminder of my youth, thinking all things must be improved. I picked up a really clean Yugo last year, and despite the occasional temptation to mess with it, I am leaving it as-issued. I picked up 50 stripper clips for .25 cents a pop at a gun show, all of them are loaded now with Wolf & sitting in an ammo can. Would have bought more, but that's all the guy had. Having shot both, I am a believer the strpper clips are faster.

lipadj46
March 8, 2009, 11:42 PM
Keep the original mag and learn to love your stripper clips. Besides having a nice rifle as is if you convert to removable then you have to join this "buy more mags" arms race. With the attached mag you don't have to worry about losing it and won't have the extra expense of mag hoarding. Just my $.02.

Cannonball888
March 9, 2009, 12:23 AM
A top loading clip...much like the M1's.
Stripper clips and enbloc clips are different. The M1 uses an enbloc not a stripper.

ndh87
March 9, 2009, 01:34 AM
Detachable mags dont work worth a crap in SKS's. I tried on one I had. Its much easier to just use a STRIPPER clip.

dscottw88
March 9, 2009, 01:46 AM
Only the SKS-D and SKS-M were made to accept detachable magazines. Trying to convert a standard SKS to accept detachable magazines will cost around the same price as the rifle I would imagine, and it will greatly reduce reliability of the firearm. Some guns can't be changed no matter how badly we want them to.

Dr. Fresh
March 9, 2009, 05:56 AM
Only the SKS-D and SKS-M were made to accept detachable magazines. Trying to convert a standard SKS to accept detachable magazines will cost around the same price as the rifle I would imagine, and it will greatly reduce reliability of the firearm. Some guns can't be changed no matter how badly we want them to.

Sort of. It's easy to "convert" to duck-bill mags, but AK mags are another story. Like you said, that would be an expensive conversion. If AK mags are your thing, the D and M are great.

Otherwise, stick with stripper clips.

foghornl
March 9, 2009, 09:01 AM
Other than the 2 specific models mentioned, loading the SKS = 10-round Stripper Clip.

I can load my SKS with the 10-rounds clips ALMOST as fast as I can stuff another en-bloc 8-round clip into my US Rifle Cal .30 M1

Loggerlee
March 9, 2009, 05:45 PM
I'm a fan of the stripper clip,they work nice.

mljdeckard
March 9, 2009, 05:48 PM
I have heard that the Tapco conversions work well, I'm about to find out.

scottishclaymore
March 9, 2009, 06:07 PM
The SKS is a good and much-maligned rifle. I have found, despite initial temptation to modify mine, that I actually really love it in its original configuration. Stripper clips are more easily transported than detachable magazines and much, much cheaper. I have a 20-pack that I bought for about $6 or $7 and this basically means that I have the potential of having 210 rounds ready instantly (counting the 10 in the gun). I don't keep that many loaded mainly because I don't see the need, but I always have a couple on hand.

I can pop them in my back pocket and get moving, and the reloading is every bit as fast as reloading my AK-47 -- faster, actually.

benEzra
March 9, 2009, 10:30 PM
Be aware that it's a Federal felony to replace the fixed magazine with a detachable unless you also replace enough other parts to met the 18 USC 922(r) parts count rules.

Tapco sells all the parts you need to do it legally, if you want to go that route:

http://www.tapco.com/catalog.aspx?id=240

mljdeckard
March 10, 2009, 01:06 AM
Yes, I also should have probably emphasized that, I'm not just switching out the mag, I got the compliance kit. (There is one pin holding the handguard over the gas tube that's giving me fits.) To switch out JUST the magazine is illegal.

jkcal436
March 10, 2009, 01:28 AM
My father in law and brother in law both have Norinco and they have the detachable mags. Whats gives? Chinese and Yugos did the mags and Romanians did the clips?

Thanks for all the feedback. I am learning a lot!

Hoppy590
March 10, 2009, 01:46 AM
My father in law and brother in law both have Norinco and they have the detachable mags. Whats gives? Chinese and Yugos did the mags and Romanians did the clips?

norinco made 2 models that accept AK mags. they are commercial made rifles to the best of my knowledge. any other SKS will be Military surplus. and no, Yugos are clip fed. any removeable mag on a yugo is post market

anyway, any conversion to removable magazines has laughable reliability at best, jam o matic at worse. either stick with strippers or buy an AK.

jkcal436
March 10, 2009, 02:05 AM
No, these take the duckbill mags. I took my Romanian to compare notes as soon as I bought it. Not converted, still have chicon wood on them.

drjoker
March 10, 2009, 03:46 AM
Don't mess with our gun, man. It's fine just the way it is. The detachable mag will jiggle and your gun won't shoot as straight. The detachable mag also prevents you from putting your left palm underneath the center of gravity when firing your gun from a standing position. If you hold a gun in a standing position with the left hand forward of the center of gravity because the detachable magazine is in the way, you'll get tired really soon. This causes your hands to shake and accuracy to suffer. With practice, you can shoot 1 to 2 inch groups at 100 yards prone with sellier and bellot ammo (NOT with the cheap Wolf stuff). You can get 5 to 8 inch groups while shooting from a standing position. I have a Norinco. Trust me, your gun is fine just the way it is.

jkcal436
March 10, 2009, 11:15 AM
I still want to find out about the mags in the Romanian and the Norinco... but I bought me a 20 pack of stripper clips and the cleaning rod! Going to shoot this weekend!

Hoppy590
March 10, 2009, 03:57 PM
No, these take the duckbill mags. I took my Romanian to compare notes as soon as I bought it. Not converted, still have chicon wood on them.

those removeable duckbill mags are not original equipment.

easyrider6042004@yahoo.ca
March 10, 2009, 04:22 PM
A tactical problem with using 30 round detachable magazines is shooting from prone position and perhaps shooting from various "cover". The mag gets in the way and can expose your head to enemy fire.

QuietEarp
March 10, 2009, 06:36 PM
The "duckbill" magazines take a little wiggling around to get in. I feel they are not a good thing on an SKS at all. It is a very reliable gun and then an unreliable part is put on it. I never put the duckbill magazine in my gun but I sure did feel sorry for my friend who bought a couple despite proper warning and struggled to make his gun function as good as it used to.

HB
March 10, 2009, 08:10 PM
Now for the bad news. A Romanian SKS is not a true SKS
Huh? Because it was not made to be tooled with until it works with an aftermarket part, that was never really in the picture when it was designed. If nothing else, you will find the SKS a little handier sans the 20 or 30 rounder sticking out of stock...

HB

Hoppy590
March 10, 2009, 08:11 PM
Now for the bad news. A Romanian SKS is not a true SKS. It was modified by the Romanians and they made it almost impossible to convert it to detachables. The 40% figure I mentioned before is also the same percentage of people who own Chinese SKS's. They are very easy to convert and they work fine. The Romanian you have almost certainly will not work with detachables. Russians can be converted with some gunsmithing work. Romanians can't.

i believe your thinking of Albanian SKS's. Romanian ones are pretty close to Russians i believe.

bfoosh006
March 10, 2009, 09:41 PM
http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/carbine/index.asp

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