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Frightener 88
March 9, 2009, 12:51 AM
Well I picked up a Norinco 213 today. Its stainless and the 4 digits on the magazine match the last 4 digits of the serial number. It was imported by Sports Arms of Miami, FL. Is there anything I should know before using? How about parts interchangeability with tt 33s? General Impressions by those who have used or owned them... Thanks

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snorko
March 9, 2009, 11:35 AM
I also recently bought a 9mm Norinco 213, blued version. I have not fired it yet but have stripped it down, dry fired, etc. and like it so far. I found the link below and it had some good basic info. My understanding is these were imported for a very short time.

http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/tokarev213.htm

Frightener 88
March 9, 2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks for the link snorko. Ill probably take mine shooting this weekend.

Mastiff
March 9, 2009, 04:52 PM
My Norinco 213 was my go to pistol for years. I bought 2 of them in 1992, $89 each. I put one in the safe, and shot the other one weekly. I had over 55,000 rounds through it when I finally gave it to my brother. It was my most accurate semi-auto handgun.
I own the Norinco 213 ex-safe queen and a Romanian TT-33. I just won an auction for a Yugo M57.
I was able to get the Romanian's barrel (7.62x25) to fit in the Norinco, I used the barrel bushing from the Romanian. It works the other way also. You have to remove the spacer in the back of the magazine well to fit the original 7.62x25 magazines in the Norinco 213. I only hand cycled the Norinco with the 7.62 rounds, it seems to work OK. The ejection port on the 213 is too small to eject an unfired 7.62 cartridge. I had to remove the magazine to get the unfired round out of the pistol.
It is real easy to convert these pistols to fire 9x23 Winchester, that is what I normally shoot in the Romanian.

R.W.Dale
March 9, 2009, 05:07 PM
Well I picked up a Norinco 213 today. Its stainless and the 4 digits on the magazine match the last 4 digits of the serial number. It was imported by Sports Arms of Miami, FL. Is there anything I should know before using? How about parts interchangeability with tt 33s? General Impressions by those who have used or owned them... Thanks


This is only the SECOND stainless Tok I've heard referenced. EVER


Please please post some pictures


I like these handguns, they're slim reliable and in my experience quite accurate. But for the love of Thor don't alter this handgun in any way

Frightener 88
March 9, 2009, 06:09 PM
Im not much for altering. I like it just fine the way it is. Ill get some pics today. Then Ill try to locate the cord that allows me to upload pics. The grip is missing a decent sized chunk on one side, and is cracked on the other. Ill buy some backups in the near future.

Dr.Rob
March 9, 2009, 06:35 PM
Sure its stainless and not nickled by someone?

Frightener 88
March 9, 2009, 07:02 PM
Looks like stainless to me. But Im no expert. Ill have pics of it later. Then a more qualified source is welcome to chime in.

Frightener 88
March 10, 2009, 06:53 PM
Heres a pic, if anyone wants something more detailed let me know and Ill see what I can do.

R.W.Dale
March 11, 2009, 07:40 AM
concentrated awesome in a bottle

nice piece

pageophile
March 11, 2009, 11:53 AM
Wow, that is a sharp looking piece !

I've got two incoming (yes I'm a Canuk) for a total of less than 250CDN

One of the few times being stuck is Canada has worked in my favor.

Frightener 88
March 11, 2009, 03:01 PM
Thanks guys. Im excited to shoot it. I just have to wait a few days. I hate waiting...Pageophile, are you able to get spare mags at a reasonable price? By that I mean less than $25USD. And does anyone have a good source for replacement grips?

R.W.Dale
March 11, 2009, 03:14 PM
Thanks guys. Im excited to shoot it. I just have to wait a few days. I hate waiting...Pageophile, are you able to get spare mags at a reasonable price? By that I mean less than $25USD. And does anyone have a good source for replacement grips?

grips are all over e-bay, the last new set I bought came out of Romania for less than $20

as to mags where is the "spacer" in this particular handgun? In the mag or in the frame?

Either way my 213 with the spacered mags feeds 9mm FMJ just fine from unmodded 7.62x25tok mags. Which are cheap and plentiful I might add.

Frightener 88
March 11, 2009, 03:51 PM
spacer is in the pistol. So in theory, I could remove the spacer and use 7.62x25 mags, without issue?

R.W.Dale
March 12, 2009, 07:33 AM
spacer is in the pistol. So in theory, I could remove the spacer and use 7.62x25 mags, without issue?

So I've read. Is the spacer pressed in or riveted?

Frightener 88
March 13, 2009, 12:15 AM
It looks pinned in to me, so I guess that would be the rivet. and I just broke the damn grip. It already had a pretty large crack in it. Does anyone make a decent aftermarket grip that is the same, just made of a more durable material?

Frightener 88
March 13, 2009, 03:14 PM
Alright...Do any of you tt-33 guys know how to remove the latches from the grips?

theotherwaldo
March 13, 2009, 05:30 PM
Yep. Remove the mag, clear the weapon, then look in the mag opening for a slotted lever that lies against the back side of one of the grips. It should be at the end of its travel range. Take a screwdriver or similar tool and push it the other way and that grip should just about fall off. The other grip should be obvious at that point.

Frightener 88
March 13, 2009, 07:50 PM
Theotherwaldo, Ive gotten that far, my question is how do you remove the latches from the plastic itself. Both of my grips are screwed up in one way or another, so Id like to replace them. Some of the replacements dont come with the moving parts, so Id like to know how to remove and/or install those pieces to the grips themselves. Thanks

theotherwaldo
March 13, 2009, 10:20 PM
Mine are all riveted. Peened over. You'll probably have to grind out the rivet in your old grip and then fabricate one for your new grip, then peen the parts together without shattering the grip... somehow. Good luck.

Frightener 88
March 13, 2009, 10:36 PM
expensive complete new grips it is!

Frightener 88
March 15, 2009, 07:16 PM
For those interested, I took the Norinco 213 out today. Shot around 30 rounds of various 115gr ball in it, no issues. Reasonably accurate. Perhaps it will get better once I replace the grips, but it shot fine to me. I enjoy it, and plan on keeping it.

charliemopic
March 17, 2009, 10:21 AM
I think your Nork is nickle. I have seen one other nickle 213 on Gunbroker. I also seen a wide body hi capacity version that I should have bought. If I remember correctly it was called a 213A.
I don't own one but I like them.

charliemopic
March 17, 2009, 10:22 AM
I think your Nork is nickle. Treat it like its nickle anyway. I have seen one other nickle 213 on Gunbroker. I also seen a wide body hi capacity version-blue that I should have bought. If I remember correctly it was called a 213A.
I don't own one but I like them.

Apologies for the double strike.

ewanzel
June 2, 2009, 12:29 PM
Sorry to resurrect an older thread, but I just picked up a 213 exactly like the pics that frightener posted, and I was wanting some clarification on the mags so I can pick up a few while it is being shipped to my FFL. From what I'm reading into what you've posted above it seems as if I would be able to use any of the narrow 8rd mags in this pistol, is that correct. I'm intuiting that I could just remove the spacers from the mags with spacers and they would works as is, am I off base on this? Sorry for the questions, I just want to get the right mags for my new little toy.

Additional pics for no good reason:
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/129670000/129670579/pix232995828.jpg
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/129670000/129670579/pix232995578.jpg
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/129670000/129670579/pix232995750.jpg

Just an FYI I believe the 213's are hard chrome and not stainless based on my research.

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