Worst Case Senario


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October 6, 2003, 02:51 PM
http://www.rgj.com/news/printstory.php?id=51848

Three bullets failed to stop home intruder, records say
RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL
9/16/2003 11:26 pm

Like a scene in a horror movie, three bullets from Charles
Cryderman's .357 magnum revolver didn't stop the intruder who broke into
his Douglas County home Aug. 2, according to reports released Tuesday.
So Cryderman, 51, grabbed a shotgun out of his bedroom and, lacking
shells for it, clubbed Walter Francis Hetrick, 40, over the head and
upper torso hard enough to break the gun, Douglas County Sheriff√*s Office
reports said.
After the shotgun came apart, Cryderman 'said he continued striking
Hetrick with the butt of the shotgun as Hetrick crawled down the hallway
towards the children√*s bedroom,' one report said.
Cryderman could see Hetrick was 'running out of gas,' the report
said, and Cryderman pleaded with Hetrick to √¨stay there√ģ and stop
crawling down the hallway.
Moments later, sheriff's deputies swarmed the home, handcuffing a
bloody Hetrick and ending the trauma to Cryderman. His wife and their two
children were hiding in a bathroom.
Hetrick later died in a hospital.
Recounting the incident later for investigators, Cryderman said it
was like the movie "Friday the 13th" or "like Jack Nicholson in 'The
Shining,'" a report said.
Prosecutors said Aug. 29 they wouldn√*t file criminal charges against
Cryderman for the death of Hetrick, who spent most of the last 20 years
in California psychiatric hospitals for the 1984 murder of a friend.
District Attorney Scott Doyle returned from vacation last week. The
investigative reports were not released until Tuesday, after Doyle had
reviewed the decision not to prosecute and also decided not to hold a
coroner's inquest, sheriff's Sgt. Tom Mezzetta said.
Cryderman declined to comment Tuesday on the contents of the
reports, which recount in detail what happened at the Log Cabin Road home.
Cryderman was watching television when Hetrick, whom he had never
met, showed up at his door and asked, 'Is Stacy here?' the reports said.
Cryderman told him he had the wrong house.
The 6-foot-1, 230-pound Hetrick became angry, starting talking about
rape and began pounding on the door, the reports said.
As Cryderman got his Smith & Wesson revolver from a bedroom, the
noise at the front door stopped. Cryderman thought Hetrick might have
left, the reports said.
Then Hetrick began banging on a side door, saw Cryderman was armed
and yelled, 'Put the gun down,' the reports said.
Hetrick threw a brick against the door and kicked it open. Cryderman
fired, and the door slammed shut. Hetrick kicked the door open twice
more, and Cryderman fired one shot both times, the reports said.
Hetrick 'finally lunged into the residence,' the reports said, and
Cryderman fired twice more, using up the five rounds in the six-shot
revolver.
Cryderman, who had loaded the gun with Federal brand ammunition
called Hydra-Shok, told investigators he kept one cylinder in the
revolver empty and put the revolver hammer on that empty cylinder during
storage.
Three of Cryderman's five shots hit Hetrick: in the upper torso, the
thigh and in the foot. The shot to the thigh ultimately proved fatal,
severing Hetrick's femoral artery.
But Hetrick still kept moving through the home, so Cryderman got his
unloaded shotgun with over-and-under barrels. He had no ammunition, so
with the gun still in the case he began beating Hetrick with it, the
report said.
Hetrick grabbed the shotgun at one point and the two struggled over
it, but Cryderman got it back and continued beating him, even after the
case came open and the shotgun game apart, the reports said.
Two days after the break-in, investigators talked to Hetrick's
mother and aunt in Antioch, Calif.
Hetrick√*s relatives showed investigators seven bottles of
prescription medication Hetrick had stopped taking and his mother, Linda
Minor, described him as a danger to himself and others when he stopped
taking medication, the reports said.

Copyright © 2002 The Reno Gazette-Journal

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Mike Irwin
October 6, 2003, 03:01 PM
That's one homeowner who wins the "lucky SOB of the year award."

Mark Tyson
October 6, 2003, 03:05 PM
Wow. This guy was truly "gunned down", LOL. No, seriously, that's pretty scary.

Any guesses on which gun and ammo this guy keeps for protection now?

cslinger
October 6, 2003, 03:11 PM
Why I keep more than one gun loaded and ready to go.......heck I have two 12 gauges ready to go and if they can stand up to two 12 gauges worth of buck after the initial handgun encounter. Well heck I'm not calling the cops, I'm calling God and the Marines.

Chris

My 870 Marine Magnum would make a wicked club though, in a pinch. Course I could always afix bayonets to one of the milsurps and just CHARGE!!!!

Mark Tyson
October 6, 2003, 03:14 PM
Course I could always afix bayonets to one of the milsurps and just CHARGE!!!!

Hey, that's right! Dammit, this is why we NEED our bayonets!

cslinger
October 6, 2003, 03:16 PM
I have always contended that coming down the stairs with a bayonet attached to a rifle screaming bloody murder would be more psychologically threatening then just about any other firearm you would engage with.

Now triple that fear because I'm coming down with the bayonet, the gun and I will be in boxers most likely.

Chris

444
October 6, 2003, 03:22 PM
This story makes having a carbine with a 30 round mag look a little less extreme.

El Tejon
October 6, 2003, 03:37 PM
Remember, IT'S JUST A HANDGUN!:eek:

Mike Irwin
October 6, 2003, 03:57 PM
I want a Norinco SKS with fold-out action bayonet!

Are you nuts? You'll just poke your eye out!

Pebcac
October 6, 2003, 04:05 PM
Lessee, rifle, bayonet, guy in boxers screaming.... Yeah, I think I'd move on to the next house, too! :D

This article just goes to show that there is no point in arguing one-shot stops. Empty the gun, and start clubbin'. This guy is still alive because, once the fight was brought to him, he didn't back down an inch.

mtnbkr
October 6, 2003, 04:15 PM
After the shotgun came apart, Cryderman 'said he continued striking Hetrick with the butt of the shotgun as Hetrick crawled down the hallway towards the children's bedroom,' one report said.



It would take a lot of Resolve to get him out of my carpet if I were in that situation. :fire:

Chris

feedthehogs
October 6, 2003, 04:15 PM
Hetrick√*s relatives showed investigators seven bottles of
prescription medication Hetrick had stopped taking and his mother, Linda
Minor, described him as a danger to himself and others when he stopped
taking medication, the reports said.


Not enough of a danger to report him to the authorities though.

Another justified drowning in the gene pool.

doberman
October 6, 2003, 04:19 PM
I am curious as to what kind of ammo he was using in his .357?:confused:

Balog
October 6, 2003, 04:28 PM
"I am curious as to what kind of ammo he was using in his .357?"

The article said Hydra Shok's.

Double Maduro
October 6, 2003, 04:35 PM
There is another thread on this.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40669

DM

CrudeGT
October 6, 2003, 04:42 PM
The guy was probably on PCP. Once that stuff hits your bloodstream it can keep you alive after your heart should have stopped. It keeps the adrenaline pumping and forces your to finish the last thought in your brain. Scary stuff. I've seen some police videos of guys on PCP take more bullets and beatings than this guy.

Damn, now I know why i keep 2 15 round clips filled with hydrashocks and a shotgun loaded. If those don't stop him, i;m in the same boat as cslinger, call god.

MarkDido
October 6, 2003, 04:44 PM
"Prosecutors said Aug. 29 they wouldn√*t file criminal charges against
Cryderman for the death of Hetrick"

Gee, that's awful freakin' magnanamous of the Prosecutor. What he should have said was "Yeah, another bit of pond scum removed from the gene pool. We're gonna pin a medal on this guy right after the beer bash"

hansolo
October 6, 2003, 04:50 PM
Note to self: 1.) Affix "illegal" bayonet to ChiCom SKS. 2.) Continue to keep my 3 handguns loaded and buy more magazines. 3.) Finally buy short-barrel Hi-Cap 12 guage. 4.) Apply camo "make-up" before retiring for the night. 5.) Buy another Boxer and a Pit Bull:evil:

LiquidTension
October 6, 2003, 05:05 PM
Why would he load 5 rounds in the cylinder and leave the hammer on the empty one? Safety? As soon has he pulls the trigger, the cylinder rotates anyway. Maybe he was afraid of dropping the gun on the hammer or something?

Seems like he did nothing other than decrease the amount of ammo he had :scrutiny:

444
October 6, 2003, 05:22 PM
This is a hold over from the single action revolver. If the gun was dropped and hit on the hammer, it might detonate the round under the hammer. Today we have transfer bar safeties which can safely be carried fully loaded. The article says he was using a S&W revolver, so the reason he had it loaded like this was either ignorance or he only owned five rounds.

jercamp45
October 6, 2003, 06:21 PM
two misses...one hit in foot, one hit in thorax, one hit in thigh(which severed the femoral artery and lead to the shootee's eventual Darwinization).
Sounds like some more practise and range time would be in order.
Not to say I would do better under extreme stress(though I did OK on the two occassions I HAD to use it fast and well)....but you do tend to repeat the actions you have practised over and over again when the fecal matter hits the rotary oscillerator.
The fabled .357 has alot of one shot FTS!(I hit a charging husky twice in the chest with a 357...it kept coming) If loaded with 125 gr JHP's they seem to do ok, but that gunmedia rag BS does not tell you about the times it took multiple hits and the guy kept coming.
The handgun is last resort....and it is not a magic wand.
Currenty, I am 'on the road' so have only the barebones...three .45 auto's and lots of mags stashed here and there. And a .38 snubby that spends most of its time hidden in a pocket.
Will get another rifle soon, SKS Para or another AK(to compliment the one in a midwestern gunsafe). Loaded with SP or HP ammo..it would do the job quite well methinks.
Shotguns reign supreme for HD though! We Americans have a love affair with our 12 gauge bass trombones!!
'Zero dark thirty', a creepoid enters house to eventually hear the loud scream.....'Fix bayonet's, sapper's in the wire!!!'
Personally I think I'd look for a new line of work!!! LMAOROTF!!
I liked Heinlein's sign in 'Farnhams Freehold'...."Please stick to the walkway...we forgot where we put all the landmines".
Jercamp45

geekWithA.45
October 6, 2003, 06:39 PM
and he's still crawling towards the kids room,

It's time for the chainsaw.

Standing Wolf
October 6, 2003, 09:57 PM
A gun without ammunition is worse than a car with no gasoline in the tank: if you run out of gas, you can still walk.

Devonai
October 7, 2003, 02:59 AM
Jercamp45 is right. Practice your Mozambiques.

Blain
October 7, 2003, 03:45 AM
Only 3 rounds in his handgun? No rounds for the shotgun? Something is seriously wrong here.... Who wants to bet that the guy is now STOCKED full of ammo and loaded guns?

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