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dobrzemetal
March 12, 2009, 04:41 PM
Got this in Mexico, Can you believe that beer there is cheaper than water?
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maksim
March 12, 2009, 04:57 PM
where in Mexico? My aunt collects booze and bottles like that from different countries.

accordingtoome
March 12, 2009, 05:04 PM
you can buy that at the local store here in texas.. it looks the same.. it was like $60 bucks

nalioth
March 12, 2009, 05:18 PM
Surprised they let you import it, what with the threaded barrel and all . . .

Zoogster
March 12, 2009, 05:22 PM
You know beer in America was once cheaper than safe water too.

Low alcohol drinks were originaly what most people drank in addition to fresh fruit on the frontier, not water.
There is a few reasons for this.
First most people did not have refrigeration, so only things fermented would last while being consumed over the course of many days.
They didn't have ice for ice boxes in steady supply most places.

A more important additional reason is unlike in fantasy (where mountain springs are clean even in warm places), fresh water most places had bacteria and parasites such as worms, flukes, gardia etc.
Drinking fresh water was dangerous, far more dangerous than drinking fermented beverages.
Arguably drinking fresh water posed a greater health hazard than regularly consuming alcohol.
So fermented beverages were the lesser of the evils.
To a lesser extent there is still such dangers in Mexico where it is not uncommon for people to get things like hepatitis from the water.
Proper fermentation is hostile to many parasites and bacteria, as is the alcohol in the finished product.

Cider, today called hard cider was the drink of the US long before beer. It remained that way for a long time.
Children in addition to adults often drank such beverages as thier primary liquid. It was far safer than water.


Then during the large German immigration periods beer became more popular in America, eventualy replacing cider.
A big reason for that was because beer was cheap and easy to transport. It was made from a dry product that could be stored a long time and combined with water at a destination brewery. Far more reliable and economical.
Unlike cider that had to be made fresh near apple orchards, then shipped in liquid state to consumers, beer was from grain that for the amount of finished product was far lighter to ship and could be made on demand, not when crops were ready.

Alcohol today is largely as expensive as it is due to taxes, not because the product really needs to be that expensive.
The cost of a bottle of spirits for example is about 60% taxes.

Here is the data a couple years ago, and the taxes have gone up to solve various budgets since then:

Standardizing for alcohol content, the distilled spirits' federal excise tax burden per proof gallon is more than double that of beer and almost triple that of wine. The spirits' federal excise tax burden per proof gallon is $13.50. In comparison, the tax burden per proof gallon for beer and wine is $6.18 and $4.86, respectively.


Federal, state and local taxes accounted for $7.02, or 59%, of the average $11.94 price for a typical 750ml bottle of 80 proof distilled spirits in the United States in 2007.


Without taxes the cost of most bottles of liqor would be less than half the cost.

ge0624me
March 12, 2009, 05:22 PM
BecarefulL you could kill yourself with that,,REALLY,might just take it in shots... thats cool i want one.

bthest86
March 12, 2009, 05:47 PM
It's insane how much we pay for our liquor. (vice taxes:barf:) A huge bottle of good quality tequila costs about $8-$9 in Mexico. I always bring back a tax free 1 liter amount back with me.

eng23ine
March 12, 2009, 06:02 PM
I WANT THAT! How much?

PurdueRifleman2008
March 12, 2009, 06:07 PM
I saw a few of those go for around 400 pesos in Cancun's Kukulcan plaza last January. It comes out to around $40 or thereabouts. Neat idea.

Delaware_Dan
March 12, 2009, 06:10 PM
30 bucks

http://www.winedelight.com/liqueur_store/product_info.php?products_id=4635&zmam=6020770&zmas=1&zmac=2&zmap=11302

230RN
March 12, 2009, 06:43 PM
What?!?! No red muzzle tip?

Call out the Red Tip Gendarmes!

Terry, 230RN

CapnMac
March 12, 2009, 06:51 PM
The water used in beer production is heated, too, so that it steeps through the selected grains to make the wort. Flitering the beer after hopping it can also take out parasites and irritants in the water, too. This, and some alcohol content can help make for better local drinking water for folks.

mljdeckard
March 12, 2009, 07:12 PM
I lived in Scandinavia for two years. The hot water is heated in the center of town, and piped to all the residences, because many of them were built without their own water heaters. This makes it ridiculously expensive. When Danish beer (Carlsberg, Tubog) goes on sale, if you buy it by the rack, it's like 7 cents a bottle. We actually did the math and figured out that it's cheaper than hot water. The Swedes come across the ferry to buy it and take it home on hand dollies, 4-5 racks at a time, it's so cheap.

SO, Denmark is a place where if you're a virgin by the time you're 13, there's something wrong with you, drugs are technically illegal but no one really cares, you can drink a case of beer for a couple of dollars, but if you take a nice hot long shower, your landlord will yell at you because it costs too much.

twoclones
March 12, 2009, 07:48 PM
When Danish beer (Carlsberg, Tubog) goes on sale, if you buy it by the rack, it's like 7 cents a bottle.

I think you spent too much time in Christiania. I lived in Denmark for 5 years starting in about 1989 and a Hof [Tuborg] was nearly $5 each in a bar. Closer to half that from a store... Gasoline was $6 per gallon so more than half the population rode bicycles, busses and trains to get around. Minimum income tax was 50% but sub-standard medical care was free ;)

mljdeckard
March 12, 2009, 07:55 PM
Notice I said, by the rack, when it is on sale.

seale
March 12, 2009, 08:08 PM
Not gun related.

Justin
March 12, 2009, 08:51 PM
Yeah, this isn't really on topic.

Kind of a neat bottle, though. Similar theme to the Tommy Gun and Kalashnikov Vodka ones. Someone ought to build up a collection.

lanternlad1
March 12, 2009, 09:06 PM
I've bought that at Spec's in Houston. Its pretty good tequila.

FullEffect1911
March 12, 2009, 09:13 PM
Yeah, this isn't really on topic.

But it is really interesting.

Neat bottle, I've actually never seen anything like that before.

Zoogster
March 12, 2009, 09:17 PM
The water used in beer production is heated, too, so that it steeps through the selected grains to make the wort. Flitering the beer after hopping it can also take out parasites and irritants in the water, too.
Yeah that is what I was implying by the fermentation process, though I should have more properly termed it the "brewing process" I didn't want to confuse it with the cider I also mentioned which was made safe and good for room temperature storage just through fermentation.
It started as fruit juice free from contamination and not as water though. The beer on the other hand uses water which became much safer to drink through the brewing process. So saying the brewing process would not have allowed reference to both.

The boiling, the hops which is an anti bacterial, and the alcohol content present for days or weeks before any was consumed all made the finished product safer to drink than water it was made with on the frontier.
I thought it was important to note as many are under impression that water has always been available as safe for regular consumption. When mild alcoholic drinks were much safer.
The constant liver damage was less harmful than the parasites avoided avoided (some liver flukes would damage the liver even faster.)
So babies, children and adults regularly consumed alcohol. Not as big of a problem when the horses did the driving. :neener:

dobrzemetal
March 12, 2009, 09:18 PM
Yeah my girlfriend picked it up in cozumel. She went on a cruise with her sorrortity sisters, I told her to bring me back a sunbrarrow and a bottle of tequila and she bought that back home. I think She paid like 20 bucks for it. Needless to say I was pretty impressed, I tried a little so far and its pretty good tequila. No worm came in the bottle though :(. Allthough she did tell me that you can get a bottle of tequila with a scorpion in it! :). If I could I would pass around shots to all THR members! (Back more related to weapons, She said the police there were armed pretty well with some kind of AR looking thing, She doesn't know much about guns)

Looks like we have some home-Brewers here as well :)

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