Adjusting XMark on Remington 700


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Martyk
March 12, 2009, 08:29 PM
I just picked up a Remington 700 SPS Tactical with the XMark Pro Trigger. I was under the impression that it was user adjustable but after reading some posts here, I'm seeing that there is a old and new version. The older version is not supposedly user adjustable.

Is anyone knowledgeable about how to adjust the old version? How tough could it be?

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onehitwonder
March 12, 2009, 09:56 PM
it is not exactly " user adjustable" it is easier to adjust by a competent gun smith, at least that is the legal story. The new xmark has an external adustment like a browning or savage . the older version is adjusted by loosening or tightening the set screw located on the front side of the trigger assembly ( closest to magazine well ) you can only loosen it so much before you run into issues.

This is the way i did it.

1. scrape off coating on set screw
2. loosen set screw 1/8 turn
3. work bolt and trigger 50 times
4. repeat step 2 and 3 until trigger fails to reset ( work bolt 50 times to ensure it works properly sometimes it works 5 times before it fails to reset)
5. when trigger fails to reset tighten screw back 1/8 turn and repeat step 3.
6. recover set screw with locktite or something of the sort.

you can search and find other people have done the same. Thats how I learned how to do it. It wont be super excessive light but it is pretty darn light. I don't have a trigger gauge yet so I can't tell you exactly what mine is.

Iansstud
March 12, 2009, 10:24 PM
I adjusted my trigger on my sps tactical in 308 and It is Awesome!!! Just like glass!! I dont have a gauge to mesure the #'s but its got to be like 3lbs or maby 2.8lbs...

There is actually 3 adjustment screws, the one on the back side is the sear takeup? the one on the front bottom is the weight, and the one on the top front is overtravel?? google Xmark adjust or something like that, I know that Mine was a bitch to get the glue they use off

better yet try this

http://quarterbore.com/library/articles/rem700trigger.html

http://www.benchrest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5070&d=1199926878

or

http://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10965&highlight=remington+700+trigger+adjustment

Key steps after you are done.... 2 things to remember, 1 take rifle *unloaded rifle* and cock the firing pin, slam butt on ground 5 times to make sure it will not go off. 2 Never return the gun to remington with the adjusted trigger or they will void your warrentee.. take the trigger off befor you send in the barreled action...

onehitwonder
March 12, 2009, 10:47 PM
that sniper central link is tor the pre xmark triggers i think came out in 07

Iansstud
March 12, 2009, 11:00 PM
I got my sps tactical last summer, and it had a tag saying X-Mark trigger, I belive I used the quarterbore link, and now my trigger is just so damn SEXY!!!! It is like an extension of my body! I dont have to try and hold on my mark, and do finger pull-ups at the same time when shooting anymore

Horsemany
March 12, 2009, 11:02 PM
X Mark Pro is adjusted with using only one of the 3 screws. More specifically the pull weight screw. The geometry is such that you no longer have to adjust the other two screws. The range at which the trigger can function safely and crisply using only the pull weight screw is bigger than the older (pre Xmark pro) triggers.

Don't go below 2lbs. Try slamfiring by running the action closed fast and hard. Do bounce tests with the rifle cocked and on safety(unloaded) to ensure the newly adjusted trigger is safe.

The pull weight screw is the front bottom screw(toward muzzle). I have no experience with the new externally adjustable Xmark pro.

Read about bump testing and trigger safety. Do every test before you trust that trigger.

onehitwonder
March 12, 2009, 11:27 PM
I just put a 220 swift on layway with the new version trigger. It has an external adjustment that you do not have to take anything off to adjust. It gets light but not as light as my older version adjusted. I hope it is like the owner adjustable trigger on my brownings and you can replace springs or something to make it even lighter.

Martyk
March 12, 2009, 11:30 PM
OK now I'm a little confused. I just bought this gun today. How many versions of the XMark Pro trigger are there? My gun had an xmark tag on it.

It does not have an external adjustment screw like this one appears to have. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/remingtons-new-adjustable-x-mark-pro-trigger/

Someone set me straight please.

If there is a newer version (which I don't have) should I be pissed because I got the older version on a gun that I just bought?

Horsemany
March 12, 2009, 11:37 PM
There are 3 Remington triggers.

1.1962-2005 (this original version was modified slightly over the years)

2.2006-2009 X Mark Pro
Nickel plated and totally different geometry from the original version. It will not adjust down quite as low but will go to 2lbs. and remain very crisp. Generally only the pull weight screw is adjusted because of the difference in geometry.

3.2009 X Mark Pro Externally adjustable.
As far as I know this trigger did not replace the other X Mark Pro but is available on certain models. I have no experience yet with this model.

onehitwonder
March 12, 2009, 11:38 PM
the one in the picture is the new version. came out this year. both versions are still on the shelf. older version is very easy to adjust you just can't do it without taking the stock off. I like the trigger on my old version better than my new version. I would have bought one with the old version but they did not make that specific gun till this year. I don't think you got worked over.

Martyk
March 13, 2009, 08:31 AM
Thanks Guy's. HORSEMANY, thanks for the details. I'm looking forward to breaking in my new SPS Tactical this weekend!

sixshooterfan
March 13, 2009, 03:41 PM
I have a 2006-2009 type X-Mark Pro trigger on my 2008 Remington 700 BDL (.270 Winchester). Here is my experience with it.

From the factory there was no sealant on the pull weight screw, so I had no trouble accessing the pull weight screw once the stock was taken off. I special ordered the rifle and it was not 'tinkered with' before I got to it, so I know it came from the factory this way. The other two screws (not meant to be adjusted) were sealed with a clear sealant.

Out of the box it had no creep, a nice crisp break, but was a bit too heavy. Maybe 5lbs. Turning the allen-headed screw for pull weight outward 1 and 1/4 turns reduced the trigger pull about 50% but I do not have a weight gauge. Turning it out 1 and 1/2 turns resulted in a bolt that would occasionally not cock. 1 and 3/4 and it didn't work at all.

No creep, very crisp, clean break, little over travel. Feels good.

For comparison, my father owns an early Remington 700 BDL with the old style trigger (3 screws). Its trigger had never been adjusted, and it was MUCH worse (lots of creep) than my out-of-the-box X-mark Pro trigger. I had to remove amber-looking sealant from 3 straight-head screws, which was easy because the sealant was old and cracking. After adjusting all three screws, the final results feel quite similar to my post-adjustment X-Mark Pro trigger.

Don't fret if you have the 2006-2009 version instead of the new easier to adjust one. It is still good stuff. Dropping the trigger weight down isn't something you do every range outing, and it's easy enough to do on any of them.

And if you really want an awesome trigger, go get a Jewell.

Detritus
April 13, 2009, 12:35 AM
what size allen wrench is it supposed to be? i'm looking at mine and am not sure if my allen key is too big of if there's just a little too much sealant in the way still (clear sealant+silver metal+small hole=can't see it as well as i'd like).

Cust700 308
April 13, 2009, 02:55 AM
I believe it is 1/16th inch

Detritus
April 13, 2009, 05:31 AM
I believe it is 1/16th inch

thank you, that seems to have worked, now i've got to wait till tuesday to see how much reducing the trigger pull helps reduce group size.

I'm going through and removing or reducing the impact of as many variables as possble to see what's causing the inconsistent groups i've been having. i think that no longer having to, as Iansstud, "do finger pullups" to fire the thing will help greatly.

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