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1SOW
March 12, 2009, 10:26 PM
Has anyone seen this video? Is this for real?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceb3wKZ1a1M

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tlen
March 12, 2009, 10:28 PM
Yup, G18.

1SOW
March 12, 2009, 10:37 PM
Looks like fun if you can afford to play with it.

earlthegoat2
March 12, 2009, 11:13 PM
The model 18 with the Mako style stock. Great way to destroy a barrel firing 100 rounds through it like that.

HippieMagic
March 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
Yeah the G18 is a beast... I believe it is basically a select fire G17 with the little selector switch on the slide. I have never seen one you could legally own as a civilian though.

Here is some info on it: http://www.remtek.com/arms/glock/model/9/18/

mljdeckard
March 12, 2009, 11:37 PM
The legally owned examples in the U.S. are extremely rare, like less then ten, IRRC, and yes, if you have as much fun as you want to with it, you will likely destroy it. I bet over half of them are owned by outfits that use them for movie props. (Terminator 3, Matrix Reloaded come to mind.)

alaskanativeson
March 13, 2009, 12:43 AM
An indoor gun range in Springville, UT had one as a rental. I shot it and was less than impressed. It was so unpredictable in its jump pattern that I'd hate to have to depend on one to defend my life. Now the MP5, on the other hand...

PPGMD
March 13, 2009, 03:15 AM
The legally owned examples in the U.S. are extremely rare, like less then ten, IRRC, and yes, if you have as much fun as you want to with it, you will likely destroy it. I bet over half of them are owned by outfits that use them for movie props. (Terminator 3, Matrix Reloaded come to mind.)

Not quite correct. I haven't heard of any on a form 4 (aka the type of registration a civilian would use to own one) that is not to say that there isn't any, but there are quite a few in the US as dealer samples. Many movie prop houses are SOTs so they can own post-86 machine guns.

Kind of Blued
March 13, 2009, 03:26 AM
If you want to get even more pissed off, you'll like to know that post-May samples can be had for a little over $1,000. :mad:

BCPerry
March 13, 2009, 10:36 AM
I have been a LEO for a long time. 10 Years ago or so, I had the oppurtunity to shoot one with a TNT from the feds. It was awesome.

Pulse
March 13, 2009, 10:48 AM
here in switzerland we can buy them, however, Glock asks a premium price them them, almost 2.5k CHF.. almost 3 times the price of a F/A AK and about the same as a SIG rifle.

i dont think Glocks makes them anymore without the compensator, the C models however are quite controllable.

here a video of a shoot at Brünnig indoor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMDTIc6_HT4

(Glock18C starts at 0:59)

HippieMagic
March 13, 2009, 11:35 AM
Makes me want to go through class 3 dealer drama just so I can get samples for uh... police demos... yeah that would be my reason... no fun in shooting them at all :-P

trekgod3
March 13, 2009, 02:37 PM
I bet over half of them are owned by outfits that use them for movie props. (Terminator 3, Matrix Reloaded come to mind.)

That doesn't make any sense. Why would a movie studio/prop house buy a 20k to 50k real gun for a prop when there are plenty of $300 full-auto blank firing guns that anyone can buy legally? :confused:

HippieMagic
March 13, 2009, 04:11 PM
I think they use real guns because ive seen a few movie props that were actual firearms... They actually don't cost $20,000+ if you have a license... a brand new MP5 is like $1,500 seems like most guns fit into that range.

Drail
March 13, 2009, 04:18 PM
Movie studios do not use very many real guns. Getting a real gun to function with blanks is very difficult.

Geno
March 13, 2009, 04:21 PM
Ray at Target Sports owns one, but he supplies S.W.A.T. and other LEO organizations. His is for "show-em" purposes.

PPGMD
March 13, 2009, 04:41 PM
Movies studios use a mixture of real guns (often permanently modified to shoot blanks), dedicated blank guns, and non functional props. Remember that Hollywood Prop Gun Warehouses are SOTs and buy machine guns at prices not much more expensive then governments buyers. In fact California's NFA law has an exception specifically to allow prop houses to own machine guns, and other NFA items.

Also any form 4, Glock machine guns aren't likely real Glock 18s, because the Glock 18 was developed after the 1968 GCA which prohibited the import of NFA items (under the sporting clause). They are likely Glock 17s modified to be a machine gun (it's really not that hard, I've see the blueprints, anyone with a CNC mill could pump them out).

But there are a metric ton of Glock 18s as dealer samples. Nearly every SOT I know has one that they bought for kicks.

milspec45
March 13, 2009, 08:07 PM
I had the opportunity to shoot one a few years ago when a Glock rep brought one to our dept. I must say it was a blast.

Wesson Smith
March 14, 2009, 12:45 AM
The dude in the movie sure was in a hurry to empty that thing. Musta had a yellow jacket in his trou, or something. :what:

Borch
March 14, 2009, 01:06 PM
I had the chance to shoot a compensated version while I was in the Navy. I thought it was quite controllable, I was able to put an entire 33 round mag COM from about 15 yds on full auto.

chuwee81
March 14, 2009, 03:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow&feature=related

guy shot himself in the hand

trigga
March 15, 2009, 01:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj4yUpR1PB0&feature=related
and this guy shot himself in the foot lol!

Quiet
March 15, 2009, 05:57 AM
Both videos of the "Glock 18" are actually showing a Glock 17 with a full-auto switch installed.

Factory Glock 18 has the selector switch on the left side of the slide.
Modified select-fire Glocks have the selector switch on the rear of the slide.

In the USA, there are no civilian transferable pre-'86 Glock 18 MGs and the "drop in" select-fire component for Glocks are considered post-'86 MGs.

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