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calaverasslim
March 13, 2009, 06:21 PM
well, it's over. At least for Texas. Sportsmans Warehouse is no more. They are closing.

Closing 23 stores, selling 15. Both stores in Texas are closing. Sales up to 30% off. Does not include firearms or ammo.

Reloading stuff is 10%.

Went into the one up in San Antonio this morning and the shelves are bare.

Another good thing comes to an end....

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MCgunner
March 14, 2009, 11:07 PM
Is it true they kept real black powder there for sale? Someone told me that, but I never got up there to find out. Dangit. Pyrodex forever until I can buy some sieves and try making my own, I guess.

Hungry Seagull
March 14, 2009, 11:22 PM
*Wipes eye... just learned about them, yet so short time to do business.

calaverasslim
March 14, 2009, 11:44 PM
MCgunner. There is a dealer up in San Antonio that sells or at least used to BP. Your profile sez Texas Coastal Bend but that is a broad area.

Let me knoiw if your coming up this way and maybe so I can track him down.

As far as the Warehouse, they told me they did not carry BP. Yo no se

Big Daddy Grim
March 14, 2009, 11:46 PM
I went and blew a couple thousand holsters and tracer grips all 10% off I'll miss the good old store.

MountainBear
March 15, 2009, 01:27 AM
I'm on the opposite end. Stores in Oregon were sold to a Canadian farmers coop. I hope they pump some of their Canadian money into stock for the store and maybe I can find (brass, primers, powder, ammo, guns, holsters, etc).

Sorry to you Texas boys. I imagine I'll be getting a call from my Texas buddies in the next few months to send them stuff, assuming this new buyer is more successful at procuring things for the stores to sell.

Jed Carter
March 15, 2009, 08:29 AM
Walked into the Sportsmans Wharehouse in Lexington Ky several times never walked out with anything. Prices higher than anyone else, maybe now their prices will drop below MSRP. They won't be the last place to close because they were not competitive, all I could think of when I was in the store " who buys this sh**". A lot of useless crap to fill the square footage, they could have had twice the (useful) inventory in half the space. Gander Mountain you are next, Like a lowes without any hardware, or lumber, or plumbing, or roofing, or tools...

jaholder1971
March 15, 2009, 10:03 PM
Sportsman's Warehouse executives must be idiots.

The Wichita store is a profitable store, with revenues going up 15 percent during a down economy in an area hard hit by the recession. There's like 20,000 aircraft workers unemployed in the area.

Yet the SW folks are closing it, with the caveat that they might reopen it there later. Who the h#ll closes a profitable store then reopens it?

searcher451
March 16, 2009, 02:31 PM
I've been less than impressed with the store in my neighborhood, what with high prices and clerks more interested in impressing their friends than in making sales; an occasional purchase of self-defense rounds that's otherwise unavailable from the local gun shops or WallyWorld is about all I've managed to walk out with through the years.

That being said, it's better to have the place still in business than closed.

ArmedBear
March 16, 2009, 02:40 PM
We had two stores within a few minutes' drive of each other -- in a region where people drive HOURS to get to Cabela's or SW from ranches and small towns.

They could have made about the same sales from one store.

DUMB.

Lately, their reloading supplies (all I go there for, given the silly prices on their guns) have been utterly depleted. But they have plenty of t-shirts.

Guess what: in a slow economy, people spend a lot less on stupid items like t-shirts with low-IQ "humor" on them. Can't support a big store on t-shirts. Gotta actually have some items that people are looking for, for sale (and not 25 different varieties of turkey decoys, either).

I'm not surprised, especially given their Starbuck's-inspired business model of having too many stores, selling a lot of items that you'd only buy if you are feeling awfully rich that day.

I'm not happy, but this is more about the hideous way these stores are run, than anything else. In a bubble economy, I guess you can afford to run your business poorly. Not now, though.

tuckerdog1
March 16, 2009, 02:40 PM
I have to agree. They rarely had what I was looking for. And when they did, it was overpriced. In the couple years the store in Round Rock has been open, I've probably spent less than $40. It was on ammo. And that was just cause I was already there, and they had some.

Tuckerdog1

Yo Mama
March 16, 2009, 03:03 PM
SO wait a minute. Now that they ran off all my local stores and made them close, now they decide they need to close as well.

*** does that leave me with! Walmart!

bonza
March 16, 2009, 05:37 PM
I really liked SW. I happened upon my first one in Missoula, MT a few years ago & was really impressed. They later opened a couple of stores in western Washington, one about 45 minutes north of me, the other about the same distance to the south. Have never made any major purchases there, but did buy my Pelican rifle case from them & always found they had better than normal prices on Hornady round balls & RWS percussion caps. If it's only the southern stores that are closing & the Canadian company keeps the ones up north maybe ours will be ok. I was in there on the weekend & their shelves were pretty sparsley stocked in the firearms area, but the rest of the store was well stocked & fairly busy.

chuckusaret
March 16, 2009, 06:24 PM
We also helped put them out of business because of their P-poor ordering and tracking system. It was very easy to find out what your buddy was ordering, just needed his last name and zip code. There were hundreds of complaints about their order system sent by us. The company never took any action so most us stopped ordering from them.

Wolfebyte
March 16, 2009, 06:37 PM
Sorry, no great loss..

the store in Austin is poorly positioned right off of IH 35 at the new 45 toll road.. right behind a Target. Never had a salesman that knew the first thing about what he was selling. Never found a "great" deal, even with the 30% off stuff was still higher than I can find online.

USAFNoDAk
March 16, 2009, 06:52 PM
I ordered a wooden storage box from their catalog one time. It looked like it would be a nice gift for my father, who is into reloading. Several felt lined drawers, etc. When I got it, I couldn't give it to him. It looked like some 8th grader built it in wood shop. Poor fitting corners. Cheap hinges nailed in with cheap brass plated brads. The drawers were flimsy. I kept it for myself and use it for miscellaneous storage in my wood shop. I never gave them any more business after that. Worst $39.95 I ever spent.

Big Bill
March 16, 2009, 06:55 PM
The one here in Soutern Idaho stayed open. I hope they keep it open. I've bought several guns from them and have been happy with the selection and purchases.

Jeff F
March 16, 2009, 07:55 PM
Here's a link to the news and the stores that are closing and the ones that were sold.

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/news.cfm

Duramaximum
March 16, 2009, 07:59 PM
Let's write our congressmen, maybe we can get them bailed out too!:D But seriously, that does suck because Sportsman's is a great place to shop.

misANTHrope
March 16, 2009, 09:29 PM
We also helped put them out of business because of their P-poor ordering and tracking system. It was very easy to find out what your buddy was ordering, just needed his last name and zip code. There were hundreds of complaints about their order system sent by us. The company never took any action so most us stopped ordering from them.

I think you're getting Sportsman's Warehouse confused with Sportsman's Guide. The latter, as I recall, was the party guilty of the insecure order lookup system. SW doesn't do any online sales at all, according to their site.

:)

05kas05
March 16, 2009, 09:31 PM
i know i have been in the round rock tx store many times and have never walked out with anything. the store clerks were less than helpfull and most of the stuff i went to buy could be found at wally world or academy alot cheaper.

22-rimfire
March 16, 2009, 11:54 PM
Walked into the Sportsmans Wharehouse in Lexington Ky several times never walked out with anything. Prices higher than anyone else, maybe now their prices will drop below MSRP. They won't be the last place to close because they were not competitive, all I could think of when I was in the store " who buys this sh**". A lot of useless crap to fill the square footage, they could have had twice the (useful) inventory in half the space. Gander Mountain you are next, Like a lowes without any hardware, or lumber, or plumbing, or roofing, or tools...

I prefer Lowes to all the large hardware stores. I am a regular shopper.

I guess you have never been in a Bass Pro or Cabelas store. All of these stores are essentially retail. I buy carhart tea shirts at SW. My other option was ACE hardware and they are always high priced there, but the stores are convenient and I spend considerable money at ACE. Why? Service and convenience.

SW is staying open in my area. It is one of their top stores for sales in the country. It has little significant competition within 2 hours drive in any direction other than Dicks. At 2-hours, there are three Bass Pro stores in three compass directions relative to SW.

I've gotten used to SW. During my first visit, I honestly expected a Bass Pro type store. SW is far from a BP. So, I wasn't impressed at that time. Since that time I have become a regular customer and their staff is helpful and generally well informed about their merchandise. I don't expect them for example to have the same knowledge base as a speciality store for say kayaks or guns. Their fishing department is very good.

The gun department has mounted and bore sighted four scopes on rifles for me for FREE. Each rifle and scope (with one exception of a scope) was purchased elsewhere. They just enjoy the work and enjoy handling the guns. You do however need to go at the non-peak times of the day if possible for the scope work. I don't expect them to ignore paying customers on my behalf.

So, I give SW a 7 or 8 rating overall with 10 being the highest rating. Their inventory will improve or they will go out of business.

Seafarer12
March 17, 2009, 07:04 AM
i know i have been in the round rock tx store many times and have never walked out with anything. the store clerks were less than helpfull and most of the stuff i went to buy could be found at wally world or academy alot cheaper.
I don't know what you were looking at but I got some killer deals there over the years. Chinamart and Academy don't have squat compared to SW. They were also the best place around for reloading stuff. McBrides is the best reloading supply around now. Pretty sad.

EHL
March 17, 2009, 08:41 AM
In my area, SPortsmans was pretty nicely priced on a lot of things. Wally world still beat them on more common items though. (9mm bullets, .380, bore snakes, etc..) But the problem was that most reloading components here in SouthEast Idaho could only be bought at Sportsmans Warehouse or order it online. Some of the local gunshops had some stuff, but it was way overpriced compared to Sportsmans. I can agree that their ordering was horrendous! They had 75% of that store stuffed with stupid red-neck low brow humour t-shirts, camo bikinis, and baby camo clothing, and 25 various turkey decoys!:scrutiny: They should have cleared alot of that garbage out and ordered more ammunition and components since that was the biggest seller and they were always out of stock. They could have been much more profitable.:banghead:

PTK
March 17, 2009, 09:06 AM
Stores in Oregon were sold to a Canadian farmers coop.

Here in Colorado, too. I do wish they'd restock ANYTHING at all.... barely anything there, nowadays. I was lucky to find a case of my favorite 28ga ammo there last month. They aren't ordering any more.

CoRoMo
March 17, 2009, 09:21 AM
I'm going into Denver today on business, so I might stop at the SW down there and see if there is anything worth buying.

PTK
March 17, 2009, 09:31 AM
There really isn't, at any of the Denver area locations.

mongo4567
March 17, 2009, 10:37 AM
I never like to see a sporting goods store going out of business. That said, I'm not a big fan. The Austin store was okay, mainly for convenience. The prices were on the high side but there were some good deals occasionally. I was only interested in about 25% of the square footage. They had a good reloading and ammo section, but it has been bare for awhile. The folks working there are nice and I've bought some stuff over the years.

murph50
March 17, 2009, 10:43 AM
I found out a couple days ago that the one in Aurora Co is closing. A real bummer--they had the best prices around and I've bought a lot of stuff there over the last few years but their once well stocked shelves have been nearly bare for the last year or so and I figured something was up.
They do have a 30% off anything in the store except guns and ammo till the store closes in May--according to the manager.
I will be stopping by sometime this week to see what kind of deals might be found--could always use a few more holsters and who knows what else--if they have anything left.
I guess the one up in Thornton will remain open.

Duke of Doubt
March 17, 2009, 10:45 AM
Maine (for that matter, New England) never got one. Closest SW store is in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Maine only last year finally got a Cabela's, which I've wanted for years to give LLBean some retail competition. Most Mainers hate LLBean, in case you didn't know.

runrabbitrun
March 17, 2009, 10:47 AM
You know the more I keep reading and seeing these large retailers shutting down.
I can't help but think the few mom and pops left who have been squeezed for years
to almost extinction, are clapping and doing a happy dance.

These corporate type companies have been the problem for a long time IMO.
I miss the small local butcher shops, hardware stores, little grocery stores
and specialty shops the Wally Worlds of the world essentially put out of business
in the last 25 years or so.

PTK
March 17, 2009, 10:50 AM
I guess the one up in Thornton will remain open.

As far as I know, yep. Only one in the Denver area to remain open, "Prime Location" so they said. Still, they're not being restocked.

Duke of Doubt
March 17, 2009, 10:55 AM
runrabbitrun: "You know the more I keep reading and seeing these large retailers shutting down. I can't help but think the few mom and pops left who have been squeezed for yearsto almost extinction, are clapping and doing a happy dance."

Perhaps. Unfortunately, it may be too late. Twenty-two years ago my first real, full-time job was at a small HWI hardware and lumber wholesaler. I learned a lot, and I mean a LOT, about hardware over the course of several summers. But that store and others like it are long gone, killed off by the big boxes, which hired their staff at lower wages and under far worse working conditions. Nobody is training new staff, certainly not the big boxes. We are witnessing the extinction of the Great American Hardware Store, which existed nowhere else on earth. I hope that some of the chains like Ace, True Value, HWI and others, and their franchisees, take advantage of the opportunities presented here and do not become victims themselves. For one thing, hardware stores used to sell guns and ammunition. They could, again.

alde
March 17, 2009, 11:48 AM
I was in the Silverdale, Washington store last night. The shelves were bare like they have been for the last couple of months.

I did speak to the man at the gun counter. He said all the Washington stores will stay opened. He also said that the stock on the shelves will get much better in about 3 weeks.

MT GUNNY
March 17, 2009, 11:56 AM
I wounder how many Jobs Will be lost!

the_right_reverend
March 17, 2009, 05:56 PM
consider yourselves luck to have had a Sportsman's warehouse... We haven't had squat in my neck of the woods in over 20 years, just got Dicks a couple of years ago... the nearest DECENT Bass Pro is 7 hours drive. My reloading powder and Primer runs are a once a year event when I drive home for Christmas. If it wasn't for the internet I would have to use a sling shot

WoofersInc
March 17, 2009, 06:17 PM
Was at the Las Vegas store yesterday. Ammo shelves were completely empty. This store is on the list for closure which is funny because it just opened up only a few months ago.

Seafarer12
March 17, 2009, 08:33 PM
The prices were on the high side but there were some good deals occasionally.
Compared to what? They were the cheapest reloading supplies in town. McBrides is about the same on powder and now where close on primers. Cabelas isn't really close on anything. Sure you can find stuff cheaper online but if you only need a pound or two to try out a new powder it isn't worth all the hastle. When I order online I have to order 400 dollars or more to make it worth it but I don't always want to drop 400 dollars on powder.

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