CZ-75 anger


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CYANIDEGENOCIDE
March 13, 2009, 07:36 PM
Can someone tell me where to get CZ-75 mags that are regular capacity for less than $100 per pair? My local shop is asking $48 per, Gunjoker can't touch that price for a factory magazine. I don't want a piece of crap aftermarket. I am really disgusted with this weapon on the whole, the controls suck, it's nothing what I expected. I suppose there was a reason I got it for a good price. Anybody wanna trade a NIB CZ-75 BD for something good?

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floydster
March 13, 2009, 07:43 PM
It appears you need to learn more about guns in general,period!
Controls suck? ***.:eek:

dleong
March 13, 2009, 07:50 PM
CZ 75 mags at:

MidwayUSA (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=918412)

CDNN Investments (http://www.cdnninvestments.com/cz.html)

Guns and more
March 13, 2009, 07:55 PM
I bought from Angus Hobdell's "Ghost Products". and yes, they were pricy. But good.

CYANIDEGENOCIDE
March 13, 2009, 08:11 PM
It appears you need to learn more about guns in general,period!
Controls suck? ***.

What are you talking about? yes the CONTROLS suck, its easier to say controls and anyone who has been using autoloaders know its easier to say controls than list every single one individually, but as you seem to be lacking in this term I will define it for you.
Autoloader controls entail:
trigger
hammer
magazine release
decocker (on this model)
and slide release

...and they do suck. Compared to the other 13 full size centerfire autoloaders in my safe the trigger is VERY heavy, the slide release does is not big enough to use comfortably or reliably, the slide is VERY slim and low profile, I cannot rack it unless I grab the rear sights. The magazine release does not drop the magazine, it remains in the grip and has to be manually extracted, the decocker is stiff, and the hammer lacks a spur and is difficult to manually cock unless you pull the trigger halfway (a questionable practice at best).

If you don't know terms use the search feature, or ask, don't be so brazen as to suggest the poster doesn't know what they are talking about

Yo Mama
March 13, 2009, 08:21 PM
OP wasn't asking for an opinion on the gun, which is a fine weapon.

You're mags are expensive because all mags are expensive. MY pt145 goes for 35 a piece, and even my PF9 from keltec has 30 dollar mags that only hold 7 rounds.

Geneseo1911
March 13, 2009, 08:40 PM
Greg Cote sells Mec-Gars, and had some in stock when I ordered them in Jan. Mec-Gar is rumored to be the manufacturer of factory mags as well, and are certainly high quality. IIRC I gave under $25 each for mine. Contact him at gusaoz@yahoo.com for a current price list. I believe this is the current one, posted at the Sig forum (I couldn't find the one he emailed me) http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/350601935/m/6481013331

You listed pretty much every complaint I had when I first brought home my 75 compact.

...and they do suck. Compared to the other 13 full size centerfire autoloaders in my safe the trigger is VERY heavy,

This gets better with wear, some guys will tell you to put a snap cap in and dry fire it a few hundred times while watching TV, but mine wasn't too bad to begin with, and I would describe it as "decent" after only a couple hundred rounds.

the slide is VERY slim and low profile, I cannot rack it unless I grab the rear sights.

This really got on my nerves as well since I was spoiled by "old slabsides". It is much easier to do the "pinching" method on the rear serrations, although some combat handgunners would chew me out for saying so. It also got easier after a couple boxes of ammo as the spring got broken in. I also sometimes thumb the hammer back, which makes it pretty easy. It is still my biggest complaint about the platform.

The magazine release does not drop the magazine, it remains in the grip and has to be manually extracted,

Stick your finger into the magwell and straighten out the spring which retains the mag. It's on the back of the well. It's also pretty easy to get out if you can't bend it enough in place.

the decocker is stiff, and the hammer lacks a spur and is difficult to manually cock unless you pull the trigger halfway (a questionable practice at best).

Can't help you here. What do you mean by stiff? You have to push it down fairly hard, but that's better than it being too light and dropping the hammer when you don't mean to. I don't have a problem with the hammer, either.

Anyway, be sure to give the gun a chance before you get rid of it. It gets better and better the more you shoot it. I was a little disappointed with mine at first, but it's grown on me a lot.

doubs43
March 13, 2009, 09:22 PM
CZ-USA sells 16 round FACTORY mags for $41 each.

Link: https://shop.cz-usa.com/SearchByCategory.aspx?CategoryCode=35

Most of your complaints could have been identified by you BEFORE you bought the pistol. Learn from this experience and next time you'll know what to check when considering another pistol.

rbernie
March 13, 2009, 09:29 PM
I get my CZ mags at Copes Distributing, for less than $25/each.

offthepaper
March 13, 2009, 09:38 PM
I have a CZ75B that I consider a fine handgun. The slide release could be a bit more "thumb friendly". I did dry fire it about 500x which smoothed the trigger out quite a bit. All in all I'm very happy with mine. It took over as my #1 handgun, which that title previously belonged to my Beretta 92 compact.

JohnBT
March 13, 2009, 10:18 PM
Those aren't shortcomings, they're features. Really.

Combat trigger, springy thingy to keep the empty mags out of the mud can be removed or flattened, narrow slide/reversed rails improved accuracy, etc.

I don't use the safety; the first shot is DA. I seldom rack the slide; I reload when it's locked back.

The SA trigger is better than the new BHP I bought and is really pretty good.

I don't know where I bought all of my mags, but they are well made and last.

The plastic grips on the 75B Military I bought really do stink and they'll melt if so much as a drop of gunscrubber touches them. Big whoop, a $7 part, but I put smooth cocobolo Hogues on mine.

John

P.S. - And my guns have slide locks, not releases. Two words... sling shot. ;)

MaterDei
March 13, 2009, 10:22 PM
If you hate the gun so much why in the world do you want more mags??? What are you a masochist or something?

The Lone Haranguer
March 13, 2009, 10:30 PM
CZ75B magazines from Mec-Gar, 16-round, $29.70 (http://mec-gar.com/mags/mgcz7516.html)
(note: subject to stocking, shipping extra)

Anybody wanna trade a NIB CZ-75 BD for something good?
I wish I could help. :( It would make a "big brother" for my PCR compact.

armoredman
March 13, 2009, 10:39 PM
I would trade for a BD in heartbeat, if it didn't mean losing something else I am fond of. :)
The mag brake that stops empty mags from dropping free is a deliberate design feature, as the CZ-75 was designed as a military/export sidearm, and mags dropped in muddy fields are, as pointed out by an above poster, lost forever. Mag brakes can be tweaked rather easily, or replaced with a CZ-85 straight brake.
Heavy trigger? I keep hearing this, and I have yet to see it, must be unholy lucky, I guess. Ghost Products of Mesa AZ does incredible work on CZ triggers, as very recently had the chance to try some - wow!
I haven't bought mags in some time, last time I did they were $20 each, I see they went up again. Stay away from the ProMag standard models, I had nothing but bad luck there.
Sorry it doesn't work well for you, but if one single sidearm was perfect for everyone, we wouldn't have so many great choices. Sounds like you might need a SiG, controls are differant, slide profile is much taller, and the mags are three times as expensive. Advertise your CZ on czforum.com Classifieds, someone will probably buy it.

JDGray
March 13, 2009, 10:55 PM
I dont care for decockers either, and the CZ75 trigger was designed for people with monster sized hands. The trigger reach in DA sucks, however, my CZ75B is the most accurate 9mm I've ever shot, never jams, has a slick 3.5# trigger. Love the thing:) Mecgar makes the mags for CZ, and are half the price. I bought a few from Greg Cotes when they were 19.95, looks like them days are gone. Get yourself a 16# hammer spring, and break that trigger in;) Mine was horribly gritty at first, but smoothed out nicely. Sorry you hate your CZ, they arn't for everyone I spose:(

BlindJustice
March 13, 2009, 11:21 PM
I have a 75B - left the factory Jan '08. It's accurate and rreliable,
trigger pull DA isn't as long a pull as my N-frame S&W SA trigger isn't as
good as my 1911 but what other semi-auto is? The SA trigger does have
definite reset that is positive IMO. The trigger job I have heard that ANgus
Hobbs does replaces the main spring to a 15 lb or 13 lb one and this lessens
the trigger pull. The magazine not falling out is an old school European thing for Service pistols. Euro pistols used to all have the mag release at the base of the frame where the bottom of the magazine is. THere's a part
to replace the one that retains the magazine it's less than $10 or you can bend the one in the gun, but ask on the CZFOrum or you might break it.

Grabbing the slide - the slide to frame design is unlike most semi-autos -
most wrap over the top the CZ is llike the fabled for it's accuracy the slide
fits inside the frame to match up with the rails so less of it sticks out for grasping. I find the thumb and index finger grab on the rear serrations works
but it's like any gun, practice practice practice.

I don't thumb back the trigger but have no problem with manually dropping the hammer so I have the thumb safety which is admittedly stiffer than my 1911 but with the DA first shot it's something of a non-issue to me.

Perhaps I don't have a problem with the DA trigger pull because I have shot s&W revolvers since my first in the mid-60s, practice DA a lot.

??? just my .02

Randall .

Riss
March 13, 2009, 11:57 PM
Get a trigger job done. My 75 B SA is at about 3.5 Lbs with drop in parts from Angus. Get a new mainspring and recoil spring. Those 2 parts alone will lighten up the trigger pull. Mags are made to not drop. Get a "mag drop" brake from Angus. Go to Brownells for some MecGar mags. They are just as good as the ones from CZ. As for the slide lock. Really it is a slide lock, NOT unlocker. Rack the slide to load another round and unlock the slide. Slim profile of slide necessitates using a slight alteration to standard grab the slide and rack it. Turn gun over 90 deg to left grab slide with thumb and forefinger and rack it instead of overhand.

stormspotter
March 16, 2009, 12:26 PM
Both my hi-cap factory mags, for my P-01, has MecGar stamped on them. I still see them listed for less than $25.

If you don't like it, I have a like new Ruger Service Six 357 mag., with 4" barrel, that I'll trade for the CZ 75BD.

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