Honest Ruger LCP Review


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colorado_handgunner
March 14, 2009, 10:35 PM
I bought a Ruger LCP today (walked in to Gander and there it was). With months long waiting lists elsewhere, I could not pass it up, even at $350. I also found 450 rounds of .380 at Walmart, buying out there stock. So, I had a very good day!

After I got it home, I gave my LCP a very thorough cleaning. This is the only semi-auto I have used so far that requires a tool to field strip. You must use a flat-head screwdriver to pry out the takedown pin while partially holding the slide back with your fingers. This requires you to place your fingers over the muzzle (the manual even shows it this way!), something I would never do if I had a choice! The gun comes caked in cosmoline, so plan on a lengthy cleaning (half an hour or more) before going out to the range. While not as bad as disassembling a .22 semi-auto or 1911, it is not fun or easy.

On to the range review.

The first thing I will say is this, watch where you put your hands. I have shot thousands of rounds through semi-autos, and this is the first time I have been "bitten". So be very careful were you put your off-hand. Now I do say where you put, because I cannot imagine shooting this gun one handed. More on this later.

The magazine works well, and is easy to load free handed to capacity, a definite plus. On the downside, the gun only comes with one magazine. The magazine release is easy, but will catch the magazine if you do not hold it down until it drops out entirely. This proves to be very frustrating and could be detrimental in a self defense situation. The slide racks fairly easily (when your hand is not bleeding from a bite), and does not have the factory stiffness that I expected.

The grip is comfortable, with ergonomic impressions for the thumb and trigger finger. However, the width does allow it to slide from side to side for someone with mid-size hands like mine. This tends to effect accuracy, but I'm sure can be controlled with practice. The length of the barrel from the trigger guard is long enough where I am not afraid of shooting my own hand (off hand grip), something I would be concerned with in a Seacamp, Baby Eagle, or Bobcat.

The sights on the gun are different. They are a very low profile, semi circle at the rear and curved point at the barrel. They are usable with practice, but not the best. On the plus side though, they will not snag on clothing. The crimson trace front sight offered for the LCP would be a positive addition to this gun.

The trigger pull is long and hard...very hard. With this being a DAO gun, I expected this, but caught myself anticipating a shot long before it came. Pull through is entirely key here. The trigger is certainly designed to prevent an AD/ND since there is no external safety, a feat I feel it accomplishes very well.

To the actual firing. I expected the recoil to be significant, since the gun is so small and shooting .380 from such a short barrel (9mm short for those not familiar with the round). I expected some kick, but wow. This gun kicks...hard...like a mule...a really teed off mule. Now realize something about the person saying this. I am 6' 190 ponds. I normally shoot .40 out of a XD subcompact with a 2.5" barrel. I am used to recoil more than some people. So when I say it kicks, believe me. The recoil is far from uncontrollable, but it is not pleasant. After 100 rounds in under a hour, my hand and arm were soar. Like I said before, do use a two handed grip. This is really the only option unless you want to be knocking yourself in the head with your own gun. Also, if you are going to purchase this gun for someone, ensure that they can handle the recoil. Remember, a small frame gun is not necessarily right for every person, so have them shoot a similar weapon first. An easily concealed, small gun might as well stayed concealed in your pocket if you can't hit anything with it.

The gun had one failure to eject out of 100 rounds. I prefer to chalk this up to break in and am not overly concerned. The shells do eject very vigorously, so do not allow someone shooting with you to stand next to you. They should be a good 3 feet behind you. Also be wary of low range ceilings and narrow partitions.

As far as accuracy, when I followed through properly and had a good grip, the gun shot dead on point of aim. I only took it out to about 5-7 yards (not certain entirely since the range is not marked for distance) since that is about as far out as one could ever expect to use it. At this distance it put all shots in the body mass of a silhouette target, but I was unsuccessful with head shots. I was also shooting at a good clip, so aiming by sites was not done as much as usual. Overall, I feel the gun's accuracy is dead on for its design and my accuracy with it will improve with practice.

The final design point I will address is concealability. This type of gun is designed with only one purpose, concealed carry. In this I find it succeeds exceptionally. The size allows it to easily slip into the front or rear pocket of a pair of jeans or other pants. With a pocket holster, no one would be able to tell that it was a firearm. I had never really considered concealed carry, but will now apply for my permit once I find out if I am being transferred out of state with my job.

My overall opinion of the LCP is a positive one. It does what it is designed to do, shoots accurately for its range, handles well enough with practice, and is priced within reason. The calliber is acceptable for most defense applications one will encounter on the street, and is much better than a .32 or .22, or a pointy stick. All in all, I would recommend this gun if you are willing to put in the time to become proficient with it. If you just want a gun to drop in your pocket for concealed carry, look elsewhere.

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RD16
March 14, 2009, 10:40 PM
Wow, great review. I'm on a waiting list at my local shop for one, so it's good to hear an honest review.

MaterDei
March 14, 2009, 10:46 PM
Good review. I don't know whether this is in the manual but the take down pin is designed to be taken out with the rim of a cartridge. You do NOT need any tools.

marv
March 14, 2009, 11:22 PM
Per the recoil. Put two layers of double sided cushion tape on the back of the grip and stretch a piece of bike innertube over the grip. It'll feel a Lot better to shoot.

rhartwell
March 14, 2009, 11:46 PM
I am a fairly new shooter. I agree with everything except I did not find the recoil that bad. It was sharper then the S&W 6906 that I shoot.

okespe04
March 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
The blue is starting to wear off of mine and its packed with pocket lint because I carry it every day. When I pull it out it rips out a mag flawlessly every time. I have about 1000 rounds through mine. It is a rugged, reliable little gun. The finish could be a little tougher, but then again I'm dirty in general and chances are its the grime's fault and not the gun.

TRGRHPY
March 15, 2009, 03:58 AM
You're not joking about the recoil at all. Whenever I take mine to the range, the people around me stop to see what just happened after the first shot or two. It's pretty violent for such a small thing.

The accuracy is good as well. A few weeks ago I pulled mine out and a couple of people next to me who saw that it was an LCP (and seemed to have a bad opinion of them) stopped their dirty looks when the first round I fired was a dead-center forehead shot at about 10 yards.

I've been carrying mine every day for a year now, and have not had a single issue with it. I clean the lint out once a week and that's about it.

harmon rabb
March 15, 2009, 10:27 AM
that gun's only purpose is to be a tiny pocket-carry gun, and it is awesome for that role. it's not something you'd want to shoot for fun. it's very punishing on the hand.

jocko
March 15, 2009, 10:43 AM
I never considered it to be a hard gun to shoot. I have 1600 flawless rounds through my lcp. It is more accurate than I am, and you don't even know ur carrying it. Not alot to hold on to so for some recoil might be a factor buthere has to be a trade off when you get undr 10 ounces and it being so small also.

great gun, kinda like others wish they would offer it in a hard chrome finish, but one cold get that done privately if need be...

The Lone Haranguer
March 15, 2009, 11:02 AM
The blue is starting to wear off of mine and its packed with pocket lint because I carry it every day.
Are you not using a pocket holster? I recommend this one. (http://frontiernet.net/~akim/pocket.htm)

Billy Shears
March 15, 2009, 11:24 AM
I was going to buy one of these, but I am not sure that I will. I say this because what I want is a very small gun that I can conceal in even the lightest of clothing, but as it happens, I already have a .380 that fits that description (and no, it's not a Kel Tec). I found that with a belly band holster, my old Remington Model 51 absolutely disappears under even the lightest t-shirt (I just have to wear a wife beater under the t-shirt to keep the gun butt off of my bare skin) The Remington is so flat there is no issue of bulge whatsoever, and the gun doesn't even print unless I bend forward at the waist -- so I squat or kneel down instead if I need to pick something up off the floor or tie my shoes, or whatever. My Remington has been thoroughly checked over by a gunsmith, and I've fired several hundred 90gr. Hydra-Shoks through it with no hiccups at all. And unlike the LCP or Kel Tec, there is no unpleasant recoil. In fact the gun is very mild and pleasant to shoot. The only issue is with the tiny, tiny sights -- smallest I've ever seen on a pistol.

But I seldom carry even the Remington. I have a Kahr Mk40 which is usually small enough for any clothing I wear, and I'd much rather carry a .40 than a .380. Only when I need to carry under the very lightest of clothing do I take the Remington.

Throwingdown
March 15, 2009, 11:52 AM
Try shooting some Buffalo Bore - talk about a hand stinger.....

BoneDigger
March 15, 2009, 04:49 PM
Your review mirrors mine almost to a T. I shot 100 rounds out of mine, but I had two FTE. However, I did not clean mine after buying it, so this range session was without and initial cleaning./ After later taking it apart, I found that it was extremely oily from the factory and probably contributed to the FTE.

Regarding recoil... Yes, I agree, by the time I had shot my 100 rounds (also in less than an hour), my hand was shaking. It's not aweful, but it does get your attention. The web between my thumb and shooting finger got sore, as did my trigger finger from where it apparently was rubbing on the trigger guard.

I found the accuracy quite good out to about 15 yards, then my shooting went to crap. Probably was just that I was moving out gradually and by the time I got out that far, I had already put probably 85 rounds through it.

Either way, out to 15 yards I can put it in a good 6 inch circle. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it shot.

I now have some more .380 ammo and will need to make another couple of range trips before I can realistically carry it. If I can get another 200+ rounds through it without a FTE, I'll consider carrying it. I seriously suspect that the earlier failures were due to no initial cleaning, but, we'll see...

Overall, like you, I am impressed by this little pocket gun!

Todd

Defense Minister
March 15, 2009, 05:26 PM
An LEO friend of mine just got an LCP, and the comments he made to me after his first trip to the range with it were very similar to the major points you made in your review. He only put 50 rounds through it, but had no malfunctions using Remington UMC 95 grain FMJ ammo.

CDW4ME
March 16, 2009, 01:15 AM
I have a Kel-Tec P3AT, but if I walk into Gander Mt. and see a Ruger LCP for $350 I'm gonna buy it.

I'm surprised to read the LCP has a hard kick; the P3AT is about the same size & weight as the Ruger and recoil is not a problem with Gold Dot or Winchester SXT, but I've not attempted to shoot 100 rounds in an hour with it.

CZ223
March 22, 2009, 10:58 AM
I would have to disagree on a couple of points. The trigger pull is long but I do not find it hard at all. Mine shoots very accurately for a gun of this size. I have no problem with the recoil either. I have put over 300 rounds through it in one session and 200 in another. Both session were quite pleasant though I did not clean the gun before shooting it the first time and had several failures to feed because of the heavy lube along with the sawdust that accumulated in my pocket over a two week period of time.:o I have had 0 failures since then. Definitely clean the gun first. I never leave home without the LCP now that I own it even when carrying my Glock which is about 90% of the time.

Lone_Gunman
March 22, 2009, 11:24 AM
Ah yes, the punishing, wrist breaking of the powerful 380 auto cartridge is almost unbearable....

I disagree with your review on a few points, but a lot of it is subjective.

First, I do not find the recoil all that bad. I shoot a lot of 357 mag and 44 mag though, and it is definitely less than 357 or 38 +P in a J frame. I have never hit myself in the head shooting one handed.

Second, takedown is simple. It does require a screw driver to remove the takedown pin, but that is not a big deal. The Kel Tec 3AT is the same.

I would not be too happy if mine was jamming 1 round out a hundred though. Maybe that will get better after you shoot it more, but a 1% failure rate is not acceptable.

Blues Brother
March 22, 2009, 11:47 AM
the Gun has a stout kick, but I think what makes it seem worse is the handle shape. its skinny and hot much to hold on to, so it feels like a monster. keep in mind, its a self defense pocket pistol, not a range gun. it does what its supposed to. it conceals well, and fires. its not intended for pleasure shooting. its a purpose built handgun, and it serves its purpose well.

Commander Crusty
March 25, 2009, 04:41 PM
TINY GRIPS BITE

I had a S&W baby Sigma in .380--almost the same size and shape as the Ruger. The recoil on the baby Sigma was SHARP. It didn't actually flip much, and I could shoot it quickly, but it did hurt my hand. I finally sold the gun because even after a trip back to the factory and a stop at Novak's, it still only worked 95% of the time. The tiny sights eroded my confidence even further and I switched to a J-frame 637.

USEFUL LIFE OF LCP

I'm supposed to pick up my Ruger LCP this week, and will let you know what I think. I believe I'll take Ruger at their word and treat the LCP as a concealed carry gun--that is, carry it a lot, shoot it a little and don't expect to hit much at 25 yards. I wonder how long I should expect a pocket pistol to last. If I break it in, then shoot a couple of magazines through it every time I go to the range, wait, let me see: 3,000 rounds - 200 (to break it in) = 2,800 / 14 (that's 2 mag's worth) = 200 range sessions. So if I take it to the range 4 times per year, the gun should last 50 years. Heck, even if I went once a month, the pistol should still last 15 years. I can live with that.

KBintheSLC
March 25, 2009, 05:02 PM
I appreciate the detailed review. After trying the LCP, P3AT, and P32's, my wife and I ended up settling on a pair of P32's. This was mainly the result of the heavy recoil that you mentioned in your review. We were both able to shoot much faster and more accurately with the little 32. I really like the LCP, and may have considered it for myself, but my wife hated shooting it and I wanted our guns to share the same caliber. I assume that you can get used to the recoil of the tiny 380 with practice.

Have fun and stay safe...


...

skinewmexico
March 26, 2009, 12:34 AM
Sounds like a review of a P3AT from 4-5 years ago. Right down to using the rim of a shell for take down.

1KPerDay
March 26, 2009, 01:38 PM
You must use a flat-head screwdriver to pry out the takedown pin while partially holding the slide back with your fingers. This requires you to place your fingers over the muzzle
No, it doesn't. :)

As for recoil, I was astounded how little the LCP recoiled, especially compared to the blowback operated .380s I've fired, which feel like they kick much harder. I could shoot the LCP all day.

Remarkable how recoil is such a relative thing. For example, I don't like shooting 158-grain loads out of a S&W airweight, while others seem to have no trouble with them.

ak-kev
March 26, 2009, 01:47 PM
We are down to just 3 people on the waiting list for these. They seem to be coming in every other week or so, 3 at a time. Maybe that means Ruger is stepping up production??? They appear to be very well built!

midiwall
March 26, 2009, 07:07 PM
Sounds like a review of a P3AT from 4-5 years ago. Right down to using the rim of a shell for take down.
The PF-9 is the same way, and I think the P-11 as well. I find it's actually a pretty nice feature.

MICHAEL T
March 26, 2009, 09:15 PM
Guess I keep my KelTec's I shoot Corbon one handed Can't belive the Ruger copy kicks that bad, I see no need on this pocket pistol for a 2 handed hold This is a close up pistol I can stay on a paper plate at 12 yds easy . Never been bit either I am over 6'
I advise you pass on the Corbon if you were shooting plain old ball and belived it kicked . My wife is 5 4" and has no trouble either. Guess some just see and feel recoil different

bob kk
March 26, 2009, 09:50 PM
Don't think mine kicks bad. Had a Walther PPKS and it hurt after a few shots.
Only fired mine about 100 times no trouble out of it. Sights are small but
they work. Most accurate 380 that I've ever shot is a Colt Government Model.
Can't find any 380 ammo. Shot some that I loaded.

Only thing I don't like about the LCP is it makes my trigger finger sore.

BoneDigger
March 26, 2009, 10:43 PM
I agree about the trigger finger getting sore.

As far as recoil... It really isn't that bad. The biggest issue is that the gun has a thin profile, which puts much of the recoil in a very small area. So, it tends to get the hand sore. But, the recail itself, although snappy, really isn't that bad.

Todd

ATAShooter
March 28, 2009, 10:19 PM
Bought on of these today. Looking foreward to shooting it. Can't find ammo. Maybe someday I'll get to see how it does.

jon_in_wv
March 29, 2009, 05:15 PM
The sights on the gun are different. They are a very low profile, semi circle at the rear and curved point at the barrel. They are usable with practice, but not the best. On the plus side though, they will not snag on clothing. The crimson trace front sight offered for the LCP would be a positive addition to this gun.

I'm not sure what this means. A semi-circle at the rear? The rear sight is a normal low profile notch and the front is a low profile post. Your description doesn't sound very accurate. I do agree that the laser may be an option on this gun. The sights are very low profile. I paint the front sight yellow and I paint the area under the rear notch. You just put one square on top of the other and it works fine.

mopar92
October 14, 2009, 10:45 PM
So, this would not be a good compact to get my wife. She loves her full size 9mm Glock, but it's clunky in some purses.... Sounds like it's recoil is not what she is going to enjoy shooting...

SalchaketJoe
October 14, 2009, 11:35 PM
one handed is the only way I have fired my LCP! I figure with a pistol like that, that is how you are going to be using it in a pinch. Mine shoots fine,no malfunctions of any kind. Fire Blazer FMJs and Buffalo Bore 100 grain cast lead. Can tell the difference but the BB isnt that bad.

Trigger finger did get sore. But this isnt a gun I am going to wear out either. Few mags a month to stay proficient.

SwampWolf
October 15, 2009, 12:41 PM
But this isnt a gun I am going to wear out either. Few mags a month to stay proficient.

I guess you'll never wear a gun out that you can't shoot because you can't find ammo for it...:(

wally
October 15, 2009, 03:52 PM
I shot my LCP for the first time today. It was 100% out of the box, all I did was clean and lube with Brian Enos' "Slide Glide" before taking it out to shoot.

It did something my P3AT has never been able to do -- fire 50 rounds of Wolf steel case FMJ without an extraction failure! Ran a box of the hot 95gr JSP Santa Barbara Spanish surplus, no issues either (my P3AT loves this stuff too!).

I think the LCP is a winner! My only complaint is the sights on the P3AT bad as they are, work better than what is on the LCP. With the best sight alignment I could muster my LCP seemed to be about 4" low, but once I figured this out had no trouble knocking down 8" steel plates at 10 yards or the bowling pin shaped plates, the mini poppers gave me a lot of trouble as the sight picture for these was air above the target :(

--wally.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
October 15, 2009, 04:38 PM
I have an LCP and it has fired every time I have pulled the trigger (over 100 times, I would estimate).

I have worked up a nice load of Meister 92g lead round nose bullets under Red Dot powder. Now to find more brass.

I have a total of four OEM Magazines for it, and I changed the floorplates in all four magazines to the extended ones offered by Ruger. They were sold two to a package (two packages).

Before the mag extension, I had two fingers on the front grip (excluding trigger). With the extension, I have two and a half fingers on the gun. That little bit makes a big difference without making the gun print any more

I carry mine in a Mika Pocket holster and have carried it most days for about six months or more (other days I carry my 642). Lint is really at a minimum with the Mika Holster. My Crimson Trace even stays clean on the end where the unit emits light.

I have not had to ever place any part of my body over the end of the muzzle to take it down, and I do use a case rim to pull the pin sufficiently to grab it with a fingernail, with the gun and chamber empty and the slide pulled rearward about 1/8". If you tilt the slide a bit to the right, you will find that that pin comes out easier.

bestseller92
October 15, 2009, 05:09 PM
The LCP is on my list of guns I'm considering buying in the near future. On the internet auction sites they're going for less than three bills.

herkyguy
October 15, 2009, 05:34 PM
250+ rounds through mine to date with no failures of any kind. I carry with the crossbreed microclip. very comfortable. It is true my trigger finger gets sore, but that was only after 100 rounds in one day. Fire off a magazine or two every few months and you will remain proficient at short distances, which is what the gun is needed for anyways.

Almost impossible to notice concealed.

Rollis R. Karvellis
October 15, 2009, 06:22 PM
Played with one once was able to hit an 8'' plate at 30 yards +/- two or three times with it. Alot more luck then skill. Seem's like a good pistol.

mustang_steve
October 15, 2009, 08:54 PM
My SCCY is the same way, not unexpected since it's a P11 clone.

The recoil on all the Kel-tec "concealables" are pretty intense. To me they are about right for their balance and size. Keep in mind there's less weight to offer resistance against the recoil, so your hands/wrists take the brunt of it. My hand still has the bruises from Tuesday's 80-rd session, where the back of the pistol kept slamming into my index knuckle and base joint for my thumb.

The current gen of ultra-compact, ultra-lights should be expected to be carry queens and not range kings. Get used to it, then pocket it.

RevDerb
October 15, 2009, 09:33 PM
I usually take my LCP out at the range each time I go and today was no exception. I have a 10 round magazine for it and usually just empty one on target. That's what I did again today. I think I have about 100 rounds through it to date - not a large amount but it has never failed to fire or eject. I am in a number of situations where even a hint of a gun would be unwise so the LCP has been a very welcome addition to my collection. I often drop it into my pocket as a BUG even when my EDC is with me. This is my second LCP and you can be sure that I will not let it get away like I did my first. I got a bug to buy something else so I sold it. The recoil is sharp but certainly manageable. My trigger finger does take a bit of a beating - that's why I limit the number of rounds at the range to just enough to make sure that I can be effective with it if and when I need to be. I do have some additional sighting in work to do with the Crimson Trace Lasergrip. I am very pleased with my LCP. :D

Rodentman
October 15, 2009, 10:18 PM
Well, of course recoil is highly subjective. I don't consider the LCP a range gun, but neither do I find the recoil punishing or outrageous. Maybe that's because I am used to firing a 329NG with stout mags. That isn't punishing either but requires attention and focus. I usually don't shoot more than a box of those at a range session. Since I reload I can control the power and use .44sp.

When carrying it's always in a pocket holster.

dal205
October 15, 2009, 11:15 PM
TINY GRIPS BITE


USEFUL LIFE OF LCP

I'm supposed to pick up my Ruger LCP this week, and will let you know what I think. I believe I'll take Ruger at their word and treat the LCP as a concealed carry gun--that is, carry it a lot, shoot it a little and don't expect to hit much at 25 yards. I wonder how long I should expect a pocket pistol to last. If I break it in, then shoot a couple of magazines through it every time I go to the range, wait, let me see: 3,000 rounds - 200 (to break it in) = 2,800 / 14 (that's 2 mag's worth) = 200 range sessions. So if I take it to the range 4 times per year, the gun should last 50 years. Heck, even if I went once a month, the pistol should still last 15 years. I can live with that.
There is a report at

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220448206/9

of a range owner letting any and all shoot his LCP. 42,000 rounds before it died.

Big Bill
October 15, 2009, 11:37 PM
I had the same experience as the OP when I took my LCP to the range. So, the next day I went and bought a Bersa .380 Thunder and decided to carry it instead. I still love the LCP, but can shoot the Bersa more accurately and it holds 7 rounds instead of 6.

cekkk
January 5, 2010, 10:42 PM
I shot my LCP for the first time today. It was 100% out of the box, all I did was clean and lube with Brian Enos' "Slide Glide" before taking it out to shoot.

It did something my P3AT has never been able to do -- fire 50 rounds of Wolf steel case FMJ without an extraction failure! Ran a box of the hot 95gr JSP Santa Barbara Spanish surplus, no issues either (my P3AT loves this stuff too!).

I think the LCP is a winner! My only complaint is the sights on the P3AT bad as they are, work better than what is on the LCP. With the best sight alignment I could muster my LCP seemed to be about 4" low, but once I figured this out had no trouble knocking down 8" steel plates at 10 yards or the bowling pin shaped plates, the mini poppers gave me a lot of trouble as the sight picture for these was air above the target :(

--wally.
Stopped in at my dealer this morning and he had an LCP in the case. He gave me the one he carries and I took it to the forest (we're VERY rural so didn't have to go far). I only had three rounds but at about 15 to 18 feet got two rounds connecting and the third an inch below. Oddly, while I was aiming at the center of a makeshift target, I also dropped about four inches. Returned gun, bought the new one for my wife's birthday. Hope she doesn't like it. Maybe it was the excitement but I really didn't notice the recoil. Have to see how The Boss feels about it. Seems ammo is getting more available.

SalchaketJoe
January 5, 2010, 11:00 PM
I have only ever fired my LCP one handed. It is so small, and for what it is and when you would use it, I think that is the best way to practice.

harmon rabb
January 6, 2010, 07:29 AM
Mine has been 100% reliable. Not an enjoyable gun to fire, but so what? It's purpose is to be concealable. It's freakin tiny for a 6+1 380.

My one issue with it is the sights. They're pretty much nonexistent. I can't hit well with it past 10yds. Yeah, I know, it's not for a gun fight and is pretty much a point and shoot gun, but still... the sig 238 isn't much larger, yet has real sights. When I tried one out, I was able to hit as well as I can with a full size pistol. Too bad that gun is SA only.

harmon rabb
January 6, 2010, 07:34 AM
I had the same experience as the OP when I took my LCP to the range. So, the next day I went and bought a Bersa .380 Thunder and decided to carry it instead. I still love the LCP, but can shoot the Bersa more accurately and it holds 7 rounds instead of 6.

Hah. Funny you mention that. At the time I bought my LCP, a buddy bought a Bersa to carry. I thought he was silly for carrying something in the same caliber that was so much larger. He later replaced it with a .40 Kahr and sold it to me.

Well, the first time I took the Bersa out to the range, I also had my LCP. At 15yds, I couldn't group worth a damn with the LCP, as usual. Then I pulled out the Bersa and instantly shot some of the tightest groups I ever have (man, it's too bad 380 is so expensive, the Bersa would be an awesome plinker). At that point I decided that perhaps my friend hadn't been so stupid.

That said, I still won't carry the Bersa. Why? I own a CZ-82. It's barely larger, fits in the same IWB holster, and holds 5 more rounds of a more powerful cartridge. Since it's been cold out, I've been carrying it together with the lcp.

gym
January 6, 2010, 11:51 PM
Belly guns are just that, have it for emergencys when you can't carry a proper size quality gun. Fire it untill it will go through 100 rounds of various bullet types, and put it away, in your pocket holster, or wherever you hide your bug. They aren't for shooting targets on a regular basis, they are for weddings, funerals, beach wear, lol. not a primary SD gun. Carry the biggest pistol caliber you can comfortablly shoot accuratelly. It isn't rocket science

NinjaFeint
January 7, 2010, 12:05 AM
I have small hands but I can still find it easier to shoot the LCP one handed than with two. I think it is sometimes bought thinking it is more than a point and shoot pocket pistol but thats all it is. It fills a niche and rather nicely so.

FunYet
January 7, 2010, 12:07 AM
After giving up on my Kahr P380 I bought an LCP. Wish I'd done so in the first place. So far my LCP has worked without a hitch. I found it pointed naturally but after a few trips to the range I got a CT laser. Very accurate. For it's purpose it's a very good gun.

PX15
January 16, 2010, 04:20 PM
JMOfartO:

Just curious as to why some folks expect the LCP to be accurate out to 15 yards?

Hey folks, it's a close up, last ditch, self defense weapon.

Basically it doesn't matter a poot if it has sights or not... It doesn't matter if you can't hit the broad side of a barn (from the inside) with it... It doesn't matter that your finger hurts after shooting it....

What matters the most is that when you are threatened, can you access the pistol, point it at center mass of the threat, and hear 6+1 bangs immediately thereafter..

I practice with my mouseguns from THREE yards, max.. With my larger caliber cc choices I move it back to 7 yards, max..

You aren't buying the Ruger LCP to win target shooting contests, nor should finger pain be a concern.. You are buying LIFE INSURANCE, and if the Ruger LCP you buy is reliable, and self defense accurate from a close up and personal distance it is money well spent.

My opinion, and that's all it is, would be that RELIABILITY is job one.. Job 2, and so on....

If your LCP is reliable, load it up, stick it in your pocket and go about your business. IF your LCP is NOT reliable, send it back to the factory..:banghead:

Everything, every aspect of a tiny mousegun is secondary to whether or not the sucker will fire the first time, and every time you need it.:D

I think the LCP is probably a pretty good choice, all things considered.


No offense,

Jesse

hammerklavier
January 16, 2010, 04:39 PM
I could see using a pocket pistol out to 7 yards, other than that, I agree with you; especially about the primary concern being reliability.

Magic_Man
January 16, 2010, 04:49 PM
I'll be picking one up this week. What are the best pocket & ankle holsters out there for it?

PX15
January 16, 2010, 06:39 PM
Magic Man:

I'm 67 years old.. Been carrying (legally) for over 40..

I've never found an easier way to carry a concealed firearm than in a back pocket (wallet style) holster..

Just slip it in the back pocket every time you leave the house and forget about it.:D

I've never been a fan of ankle holsters, but that's just me.

Best Wishes,

Jesse

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KevinR
January 16, 2010, 08:01 PM
Out of all the pistols I have shot and owned My Sig P232 .380 is the hardest on my hand. After 50 rounds my hand is tired not sore but just tired. I can just imagine the LCP being an attention grabber. But like everyone says, for CC you aint gona shot it that much.

I am thinking of purchasing one

protected
April 5, 2010, 05:32 PM
Just got my LCP today, cannot wait to shoot it. Does anybody recommend any holsters?

Thanks,
Danny

dal205
April 5, 2010, 05:35 PM
Protected, pocketholster.com. See PX15 a few posts back.

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