American made blackpowder revolvers


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Mr Bernoulli
March 15, 2009, 05:40 PM
Hey guys I was wondering what are some american companies that make black powder revolvers currently?

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messerist
March 15, 2009, 05:53 PM
Ruger used to but have discontinued production of their Old Army. Some are still around as I have read here in other threads.

mykeal
March 15, 2009, 06:04 PM
If by black powder revolvers you mean cap and ball, or percussion, revolvers, I don't believe there are any, besides a handful of semi-custom shops that will modify other's production guns.

If you mean black powder cartridge revolvers, well, any .45 revolver should be able to shoot .45 Colt cartridges loaded with black powder. Ruger, USFA, etc.

Mr Bernoulli
March 15, 2009, 06:19 PM
yeah i meant a cap and ball revolver

mykeal
March 15, 2009, 06:27 PM
A cap and ball revolver, also known as a percussion revolver, is loaded by pouring loose powder (or a powder pellet) into each chamber and then ramming a ball or conical bullet in the chamber on top of the powder. A percussion cap, which is a small copper cup with an impact sensitive explosive inside, is placed on a nipple at the back of each chamber. The hammer strikes the cap setting off the explosive, which then sends a small jet of flame into the chamber to ignite the powder and eject the bullet.

A black powder cartridge revolver is loaded with a metal cartridge containing the powder, bullet and primer just like modern smokelss powder cartridges. The only difference between the black powder cartridge and a smokeless powder cartridge is the type of powder.

sltm1
March 15, 2009, 07:33 PM
There's a company makes really high end colt clones (USAF or USF), and they've been talking about making a 58' Remmie.

pohill
March 15, 2009, 10:56 PM
High Standard made at least three models (I have the Griswold & Gunnison) that don't have all the warnings engraved on them. You can still find some unfired ones (they don't make them anymore), unless Madcratebuilder bought them all.

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madcratebuilder
March 15, 2009, 11:55 PM
High Standard made at least three models (I have the Griswold & Gunnison) that don't have all the warnings engraved on them. You can still find some unfired ones (they don't make them anymore), unless Madcratebuilder bought them all.

I'm always looking!
I can't think of any USA company that made c&b revolvers in the past fifty years on a commercial scale other than Colt, Ruger and High Standard. NAA made a BP derringer I think, but how many?

travistheone
March 16, 2009, 01:08 AM
RUGER Old Army

Mr Bernoulli
March 16, 2009, 02:32 PM
Hey guys I saw that traditions makes some. Where are the traditions arms made? Also if any of you guys have some from them how are they?

arcticap
March 16, 2009, 03:18 PM
NAA made a BP derringer I think, but how many?


North American Arms still lists their "line up" of mini .22 cap & ball revolvers in .22lr and .22 mag. versions:

http://www.naaminis.com/naac&b.html

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madcratebuilder
March 16, 2009, 03:58 PM
Hey guys I saw that traditions makes some. Where are the traditions arms made? Also if any of you guys have some from them how are they?

Traditions is the importer. I believe most of their revolvers are made by Pietta. They have used other manufacturers over the years.

bprevolver
March 16, 2009, 04:13 PM
At present there are no replica percussion revolvers made in the U.S. When the resurgence of the black powder percussion revolver industry started in the 1950's there were only two companies in the U.S. who made replica revolvers from scratch. There were several custom gunsmiths that made replicas on special order but these are not included as production replicas.

L. A. Jensen of Lake City, FL. made the very first production replica in 1954. It was a Spiller & Burr in .44cal. This caliber was deliberate to prevent faking originals. There were fewer than 100 produced.

Witloe Precision Inc. of Collingdale, PA. manufactured a Remington New Model Army. They were short lived because they could not compete with the Italian cost.

Other companies produced replicas using parts made by Uberti, Armi San Marco, and Palmetto.

High Standard produced a Confederate series of Confederate Models. These were made from parts obtained from various Italian manufacturers and finished in house.

Colt 2nd Generation revolvers were produced from parts obtained from Italian manufacturers in the C Series, assembled at the Colt factory and the F Series assembled at the Iver Johnson factory.

Colt 3rd Generation revolvers were produced by Colt Blackpowder Arms under license from Colt. Assembled from parts obtained from Italian manufacturers.

U. S. Patent Fire-Arms Manufacturing Co. and U. S. Firearms Manufacturing Co. (USFA) produced a limited replicas in 1851 Navy, 1860 Army, and the 3rd Model Dragoon. These were made from both complete guns and parts obtained from Uberti. These are very rare. They keep talking about producing a Remington New Model Army but their price projection would make its success doubtful.

Last but not least was the Ruger Old Army. This is not really a replica but an improved Remington New Model Army design. These were shooters only as they did not qualify for use in reenactment, etc.

Great Western attempted to enter the replica market with a hybrid revolver based on the Remington New Model Army but it never got produced.

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