Bore Brush Required Every Cleaning?


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AUTIGER04
October 7, 2003, 05:01 PM
I was talking to a gun buddy of mine and the subject of cleaning our guns came up.:eek: Im not one who cleans after every shooting session. But When I do clean my guns, I usually just use Hoppes #9 and cleaning patches. He was like you don't use a bore brush? Im like nope.:D Is it neccessery to use a bore brush after every outing? I have been cleaning my guns this way for years and have had no problems. Your thoughts?:uhoh:

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KMKeller
October 7, 2003, 05:20 PM
I don't know what others do, but I personally use a bore brush during every cleaning.

Bartholomew Roberts
October 7, 2003, 05:34 PM
You can use it or not as you like; but it isn't necessary. I have 12,000 rounds through a stock Hi-Power barrel and it only sees a bore brush about every 1,000-2,000 rounds.

No affect on accuracy or reliability yet. The only thing I've noticed is that when I do use a bore brush, it is more work to get the barrel clean.

12-34hom
October 7, 2003, 07:09 PM
On my pistols = yes. everytime i clean one of them after a range session i use a brush on the bore.

My varmint rifle has never and will never have a bore brush used on it. A patch ot two with JB's bore paste is the only way to go.

12-34hom.

sm
October 7, 2003, 07:26 PM
NO.
Umm I don't clean bores until I have a reason, like accuracy, or where'd the daylight go when eyeball bore. :) Chambering and extraction my main concern.
Patches used when cleaning . Brushes, good bronze/phosper in one direction only, on the rare occasions I need one. I have of late cleaned thoroughly 2 revolvers, with at least 500 rds fired , didn't require a brush to remove fouling, or copper wash from JHP. one a .38 spl, model 10, the other a ladysmith mod 65 which had only .357 run through it.FMJ and JHP copper. no problem.

SnWnMe
October 7, 2003, 07:50 PM
Yes as soon as I am done shooting.

Exception: My rimfires. I just swab the barrels/chambers. Sometimes I wait for a few hundred rounds between cleanings even.

Penforhire
October 7, 2003, 08:26 PM
I use the brushing action of Boresnakes regularly (couple of passes). Then, once in a blue moon I break out the dedicated bore brushes.

Zach S
October 7, 2003, 09:37 PM
I use the boresnake too, cant remember the last time a used a brush...

berettaman
October 7, 2003, 11:15 PM
I'll agree on Boresnake. Nice warm barrel and a quick "snakin" and your good to go.Barrel will look like it's never been fired.:D

lycanthrope
October 8, 2003, 12:27 AM
I boresnake on occasion, but otherwise subscribe to the Shuman school of thought and only clean the chamber of my 1911. No problems.

Standing Wolf
October 8, 2003, 12:54 AM
According to my dentist, you don't need to floss all your teeth: just the ones you want to keep.

10-Ring
October 8, 2003, 01:26 AM
If you're going to clean, might as well clean it right...I use the bore brush every time ;)

MikeJ
October 8, 2003, 01:23 PM
I use a bore brush with every cleaning but I do it primarily out of habit as part of my cleaning routine. I doubt that they are so dirty as to really need the bore brush treatment but I can't see any harm in it either.

Dave R
October 8, 2003, 03:16 PM
Depends on the pistol. I have a Hi-Power clone that gets leading buildup in the grooves right next to the lands (actually must be copper buildup, since I only shoot jacketed bullets) if I don't brush it every time. So that one gets the brush every time. My PPK clone and .22 show no signs of leading, so they get patches/bore snake most times.

mtnbkr
October 8, 2003, 03:31 PM
I've found I only need a borebrush when I'm shooting lead. Otherwise, just patches and solvent for me.

Chris

MoNsTeR
October 8, 2003, 04:02 PM
I use a bronze brush if I shot lead (which is not often). Otherwise I use a nylon brush with a patch wrapped around it.

swingset
October 9, 2003, 04:37 AM
Lesson of the thread:

It doesn't matter what the heck you do.

No matter what you choose, you'll be right unless you're wrong.:rolleyes:

AUTIGER04
October 9, 2003, 05:00 AM
LOL! @ swingset.

kentucky bucky
October 12, 2003, 10:59 AM
If bore brushes are not necessary, why do they make the darn things?



USE THEM!!!!!!!

ChristopherG
October 12, 2003, 12:50 PM
They obviously make them to sell them. Says nothing about the actual need for 'em.

As long as my guns look clean to my eyeball, and as long as they shoot accurately, I'll do as little fussing with them as I can get away with. I brush if patches don't get it clean to my eyeball's liking (maybe once in four shootings).

MaterDei
October 12, 2003, 01:08 PM
Am I the only person who actually looks forward to and enjoys cleaning his weapons? :p

I use both a bore brush AND a bore snake. :neener:

incursion
October 14, 2003, 02:12 AM
I used to clean after every session for both of my pistols, but now I only clean my carry piece after every session. My Walther only gets a cleaning every 300-500.

Dr.Rob
October 15, 2003, 04:30 PM
Not a bronze brush.

I certainly use a nylon one everytime.

Sometimes you gotta use jags, brushes and snakes all at the same time.

Depends on how much you shot and what it was.

Zach S
October 15, 2003, 09:04 PM
If bore brushes are not necessary, why do they make the darn things?



USE THEM!!!!!!! Heh, I'm gonna use this line next time my better half says I need to quit smoking.

RVSinOK
October 15, 2003, 10:43 PM
Great thread! I have always used a brush every time I fired the gun, but maybe I need to rethink that.......

Sean Smith
October 15, 2003, 11:38 PM
Some food for thought...

http://www.schuemann.com/clean2.htm

MR.G
October 16, 2003, 07:57 PM
I use a bore brush every time that a gun is shot. Even after a Lewis Lead Remover, when I shoot lead. I brush until the barrel is spotless.

Hans Esker
October 1, 2008, 11:18 PM
Try this: Clean to a clean patch. Then run a new bore brush through the bore some. I bet the next patch you run through with a jag will be anything but clean.

Jordan85
October 1, 2008, 11:39 PM
Since we are on the topic, B&C, Hoppes, Boresnake, or all of the above?

TnShooter83
October 2, 2008, 12:41 AM
If I put less than 100 through it, and they were jacketed than I do NOT use a brush. If more than 100 or there is visible powder residue in the barrel I will USE a brush.


If I use LEAD rounds. I DO use a brush.

Other wise I just run a few patches, then a jag, followed by a lubed patch.

That's what I do.
It may not be the right way.
But so far it works for me.

easyrider6042004@yahoo.ca
October 2, 2008, 01:55 AM
550 rounds 158 grain SWC cast from wheelweight, water quenched and Alox lubed, through my S&W 686 with only a very slight lead streak on two grooves. Accuracy at 25 meters is not affected. Needless to say, I have not cleaned it and do not intend to. I just may fire one (1) round with a jacketed or plated bullet to clean out that lead streak. Works well, painless and fun.

If and when accuracy drops, I will inspect and clean the barrel, otherwise I may just clean the external surfaces.

I don't like cleaning with a bore brush because the rod sometimes rubs against the rifling. Boresnaking is my favored method because it totally eliminates the possibility of this happening, as well as cleaning from the breech, which is the recommended procedure.

makarovnik
October 2, 2008, 02:16 AM
Nah. Just run a bore snake through it with some bore cleaner on it then follow up with light lube and you should be good to go unless it's really dirty or has lead or copper build up.

Coyote3855
October 2, 2008, 12:13 PM
Once upon a time, I shot a lot of IPSC Limited Matches with a 1911 and 200 grain lead semi-wadcutters. Matches and practice totaled several thousand round a month. Using loads to make major power factor, there was some leading ahead of the chamber. I used bronze brushes and/or a Lewis Lead Remover. Then tried an electronic bore cleaner. This device removed a lot of lead and other residue that remained after a thorough cleaning and which was not visable to the naked eye.

There is a question as to the effectiveness of firing a jacketed bullet to "clean out the leading." My personal experience is that leading remains in the barrel after shooting jacketed bullets, as evidenced by the gunk removed by the electronic cleaner. Just my experience. Your milage may differ.

The Bushmaster
October 2, 2008, 03:44 PM
Bore brush and copper solvent every time (I don't shoot lead)...

SAWBONES
October 2, 2008, 10:57 PM
I clean every centerfire gun after shooting it, unless it's just a few "fouling rounds".

I let rimfire guns go a long time between cleanings, sometimes.

conan
October 5, 2008, 11:54 PM
Coyote, where do you get these electronic cleaners? I have never heard of one before? Thank you.

as evidenced by the gunk removed by the electronic cleaner

dleong
October 6, 2008, 07:19 AM
Perhaps I'm too anal, but I like to keep my firearms looking "showroom clean/new," so I use a bore brush after every range session.

Typically, I'll run a patch soaked with Hoppes #9 through the bore, let it sit for about five minutes, run another patch through it, scrub the bore with the bore brush, flush the gunk out with brake cleaner, then lightly lube the bore.

mattk
October 6, 2008, 11:00 AM
Yes, but I dont clean my guns as often as many of you do.
I wipe them down but I only clean after about 1000 rounds and if its a carry gun, I shoot it after I clean it and leave it dirty.

krs
October 6, 2008, 01:17 PM
Copper is pretty hard to see. Powder residue is always visible in pistols.

Benchrest shooters use their brushes, sometimes after 5 shots but more often after 25. Go watch them stroking back and forth as many as 100 strokes per shooting session if they're especially anal. They're ALL anal, but some are more anal than others.

Copper erodes accuracy.

BiggBaddWolf
October 6, 2008, 01:39 PM
Yes I clean mine with a borebrush after every session, but that's just me....

j1133s
October 6, 2008, 03:34 PM
If, like you said, you've been cleaning your guns that way for years w/o problems, thenjust keep doing it.

I personally used to use bore brush (wrap a cleaning patch around it or not); w/o the brush, it'll probably take too long to clean. But now, I use bore snake for all my guns. It has a bore brush built in.

skoro
October 8, 2008, 07:28 AM
I use a bore brush when I'm shooting lead. And I tend to shoot a lot of lead from my .38 revolvers; semiwadcutters, mostly. I find that if I fire a few rounds of fmj right at the end of my session, it makes the cleanup a little easier, though.

Coyote3855
October 9, 2008, 12:47 PM
Conan,

Google "Outers Foul Out." There are others, but that's the system I use. I'd post a link, but it's too long. I think Midway has them. The Brownells product number is (#674-000-001).

novaDAK
October 9, 2008, 05:21 PM
If bore brushes are not necessary, why do they make the darn things?



USE THEM!!!!!!!Same thing can be said about CCW Badges. They're completely useless, but they sure do still make them!

I don't have a CCW badge but I do have bronze bore brushes and use them after trips to the range. If not everytime, I make sure to do it every couple trips to the range. Depends on how much and what type of ammo I shot.

thebaldguy
October 9, 2008, 09:28 PM
I use a bore brush when I clean firearms. You don't need to scrub the rifling out, but it does help clean the barrel.

orionengnr
October 9, 2008, 09:52 PM
Wow, another thread from 2003 resurrected...by someone with 50 or so posts. This happens a lot lately. Not sure why.

Search is your friend.

contenderman
October 9, 2008, 10:07 PM
Caliber and type of ammunition have a lot to do with the need to use a bore brush. The amount of rounds fired per shooting session is also an important factor.

For normal (casual) use patches and solvent w/ occasional brush use should suffice.

In most situations it is really more a matter of preference rather than necessity.

Walkalong
October 10, 2008, 08:46 AM
Nope.

MemphisJim1
October 10, 2008, 10:29 AM
I guess I'm with the anal crowd. When I was a child, Dad taught me "bore cleanliness is next to Godliness." He worked for Winchester at the time and I regarded his as the word of God, so to speak. Some years later in the Army, our drill sergeants loved to dissect our M-14s with white gloves looking for evidence of misfeasance. In Vietnam, we all learned our lessons with the early M-16s. As I approach dotage, a lifetime of ingrained habits persist: all my firearms are bore brushed and completely cleaned after every session, whether 5 rounds or 500 went through it. Depending on perceived need, I'll use a brush or snake, then however many patches it takes to satisfy me the bore is clean. I go through a lot of patches, pipe cleaners and Q-Tips on a given firearm and they seem to appreciate the pampering because they work reliably every time we go to the range for some exercise.

m4coyote
October 10, 2008, 02:21 PM
My father was in the Army during the 1950's, and consequently was very strict about overall gun cleanliness. During my early teenage years, I can remember him looking down the bores and into the actions of my guns. He would literally whip me if I did not "properly" clean a gun after using it. He did not care how much I shot or used a gun, but it better be clean when I put it away!

His lessons have remained with me until this day, and I still always clean a center fire rifle or pistol bore with Hoppes, brushes, and patches until the patches no longer reveal any fouling. I also examine the bores after cleaning them, to make sure they look as they did when new. Just 50 rounds of FMJ 9mm from my Glock 26, 19, or 34 will leave some difficult to remove fouling.

My rimfires are cleaned with Hoppes & patches until the patches come out clean.

dagger dog
October 10, 2008, 04:24 PM
I hardly ever clean my handguns, thats 'cause I rarley shoot them, except for my rimfires, but if they get shot they get cleaned, bore brushed, copper solvent the works.

"Happiness is a warm (CLEAN) gun"
"bang bang shoot shoot"
John Lennon :D

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