Guns, anti-tank weapons seized from rented storage unit


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AZTOY
January 16, 2003, 11:10 PM
Guns, anti-tank weapons seized from rented storage unit
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Emmanuel Lozano/The Arizona Republic

These are some of the weapons found at Power Mini Storage on Thursday.

Dennis Wagner
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 16, 2003 06:20 PM

Federal investigators working on a nationwide illegal weapons case discovered a huge arsenal of rocket launchers, hand grenades, machine guns and military explosives Thursday in a Queen Creek storage locker.


Among more than 100 weapons seized by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were at least 10 rocket launchers and bazookas, some with rockets.

The discovery comes just two days after the Bush administration admitted grave concerns that domestic jetliners are vulnerable to terrorist attacks using shoulder-fired rocket launchers.

However, ATF agents said the arms found Thursday are not linked to any known terrorist operation.

Instead, they were owned by a Boston man - an ex-convict from Arizona - who divulged the location of the Queen Creek arsenal after he was arrested last month in Massachusetts as part of an investigation into machine gun trafficking.

The suspect, Scott E. Segal, 36, formerly of Tempe, was identified as a firearms collector convicted of a weapons violation in Arizona a decade ago. "We were expecting to pick up a machine gun or two, but there's a lot more than that," said Joe Gordon, assistant special agent in charge for the ATF in Arizona.

Agents called the cache a "disturbing amount of military weaponry," and enough firepower to arm a military unit or a substantial terrorist outfit.

The arms appeared to date back to the Vietnam era and World War II, and to come from countries all over the world. Agents spent hours identifying and tagging gear - from a tiny derringer and novelty "pen guns" to military demolition kits capable of blowing up bridges.

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Gordon
January 17, 2003, 12:01 AM
Idiot bastard should have donated them to border "vigalantes".:D

Blackhawk
January 17, 2003, 12:08 AM
Does something smell funny about this, and I don't mean cosmoline...?

cowdawg
January 17, 2003, 12:14 AM
I think the smoke screen smells a little of the south end of a north bound bull.:o

HS/LD
January 17, 2003, 12:15 AM
Does something smell funny about this, and I don't mean cosmoline...?

Yep.

Thats cause the Feds were talking.

HS/LD

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
January 17, 2003, 12:36 AM
yeah, I just read this on CNN. I wonder if the 'bazookas' are that old dewat stuff I saw several years ago from one of the C&R importers?

Of course, he's still a convicted felon. I doubt that dewat means a hill of beans with that stone around a felon's neck.

Regards,
Rabbit.

roscoe
January 17, 2003, 12:42 AM
The Zapatistas in Chiapas could have used some of that stuff.

Bob R
January 17, 2003, 12:45 AM
I just want to know where the flame throwers came from...my wife has been nagging me for one for years now.

I may not have to build one after all.

bob

WilderBill
January 17, 2003, 01:46 AM
I like Gordon's idea. No use wasting toys like thoses!

pittspilot
January 17, 2003, 01:49 AM
Okay, thats sort of an arsenal;)

Average Guy
January 17, 2003, 01:52 AM
I notice that they pointedly neglect to mention whether any of it actually WORKS.

M2HMGHB
January 17, 2003, 03:16 AM
One of them appears to be a PIAT, Projector Infantry Anti Tank. Brits used it in WW2.

PATH
January 17, 2003, 03:22 AM
The press cannot be bothered giving accurate facts. Why would they want to do that!

Triad
January 17, 2003, 03:40 AM
One of them appears to be a PIAT
Wasn't that a spring powered launcher? Nice collection anyway...:what:

Apple a Day
January 17, 2003, 09:10 AM
Triad,
It was kinda like a shoulder-mounted, striker-fired mortar. It had a big, spring-powered firing pin which helped kick it out the front, recoil was supposed to reset the firing pin for the next round. Go rent A Bridge Too Far and you'll see a couple of cool scenes where the Brits use them against Germans charging across a bridge.

Tamara
January 17, 2003, 09:20 AM
A couple of panzerfausts, and is that a panzerschreck there behind the PIAT, with the folding shield?

This isn't an arsenal, it's a museum.

krept
January 17, 2003, 10:01 AM
Well, there goes that guys SHTF gear ;) .

Carlos Cabeza
January 17, 2003, 11:03 AM
HAHA ! That's what I thought.........

4v50 Gary
January 17, 2003, 11:33 AM
PIAT was spring fired. I hope the stuff works it way into some Museum.

Fed168
January 17, 2003, 11:48 AM
Gary, a museum couldn't be that lucky. It'll go to the closest saw and welder.

BuckeyePPC
January 17, 2003, 12:11 PM
There's a Crossroads of the West Gun Show in Phoenix next month as there was one last month. Crossroads had a lot of military type weapons in it. Maybe he is just storing it for the next gunshow.

Dan Shapiro
January 17, 2003, 01:58 PM
Agents spent hours identifying and tagging gear
Maybe they spent most of the time playing with everything (I would).

The coolest stuff comes out of storage lockers!

AmericanFreeBird
January 17, 2003, 01:58 PM
So, let me get this straight. The guy is a felon because of "weapons charges" (probably for exercising his Natural Right to Arms), not a violent felon just "weapons charges". Now he's fessing up to the ATF copping a plea and lets them know where a stash of normal old firearms and some antique WWII anti-armour museum pieces are.

What's his crime? Possesion of unpopular weapons?

What part of "shall not be infringed" hasn't someone read?

:uhoh:

AZTOY
January 17, 2003, 09:28 PM
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