Zanotti Armor Gun Safes


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Flyboy73
March 18, 2009, 11:24 PM
I am looking at a gun safe in the near future to replace the cheap RSC i have now. Since i will be putting the safe in the basement and don't feel like taking a 800 lbs+ safe down the stairs and making a 90 degree turn at the bottom of the stairs, the module Zanotti Gun Safe looks pretty appealing.

I am Looking at their 52 gun III model, however their web site, don't have prices. I called to get a price list sent, but they are out of town to next week.

I found some older prices in my searches of the site, but nothing recent.

Does anyone have an update price list? Also are they still 5 months backordered?

Thanks
Brion

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Flyboy73
March 19, 2009, 09:14 AM
Anyone get one Lately?

Maelstrom
March 19, 2009, 09:21 AM
Great timing. My father just got a price list and said the prices are in the vicinity of $1800.

emmie
March 19, 2009, 09:29 AM
can't help you with prices,but getting my 3rd one from them. for what they are,they do a good job. not a rated safe,not a tin box,but inbetween. something to stop-slow down a snatch and grab person.
first one I got was 5' high,going to replace it with a 6'. remember that most companies use single barrel shotguns to figure number of guns it will hold.
make sure you bolt it down to floor,or fill bottom with cans/cases of ammo.
oh ya, my wife and I have put these together.

emmie

iafirebuff
March 19, 2009, 11:09 AM
This won't help you any, but those are AWESOME safes AND they are made right here in the town I live in :) The Zanotti family are great people!

jfh
March 19, 2009, 11:21 AM
I bought one about seven years ago, and I am entirely satisfied.

My 50+ capacity was about $2000.00 delivered, so it sounds like prices haven't changed much.

The modular design was a necessity for me--i.e., it was to be put into a walk-in closet with a smaller door opening than the size needed. Two of us (reasonably-strong, but I was in my mid-late fifties at the time) were able to unpack and move the pieces into place, and then assemble it. It went together well; we used a rubber mallet to drive the assembly pins into place. Keep in mind that "fire-proofing" is NOT an option--or wasn't seven years ago. I would have also appreciated some sort of built-in "port" to run in a drying rod.

What you're getting is security and the ability to build a high-quality item 'in place.' I still like it--but I do NOT consider it a "good value"--but a specialized product for a specific need. I would buy another one if I had the same need, though.

IIRC, when I bought it, the lead time was about three months--so it sounds like the only real variance here may be the typical demand right now.

If the issue is merely the weight of the transfer--that is, that you have no special clearance restrictions, then you might want to work the cost benefit analysis: What would it cost to buy an assembled safe of similar size and quality and hire a "piano" mover company?

Jim H.

mothernatureson
March 19, 2009, 11:23 AM
are you talking waterloo iowa?

Flyboy73
March 19, 2009, 03:43 PM
According to the web site the safes are drilled for a goldon rod and fire rated for 20 minutes at 1200 deg.

Brion

iafirebuff
March 19, 2009, 06:52 PM
Yes, Waterloo, Iowa :)

rondog
March 19, 2009, 07:20 PM
Dakota safes are a similar option. Cheaper, but only comes in one size. http://www.dakotasafe.com/

jfh
March 19, 2009, 08:30 PM
Flyboy73:

1.--re the rod drilling--that's good; I told them about doing that at the time I bought mine--so they do make improvements.

2.--re the 20 min / 1200 degrees. I'd believe that; it's a thick steel box. However, there is no insulation per se, is what I was trying to point out.

I wonder if the 20min rating simply means the box won't warp / whatever and maintains its security, not necessarily providing temperature protection.

Jim H.

Flyboy73
March 22, 2009, 02:21 AM
As far as fire rating's go. I wonder what would happen to the guns in the safe during the fire. The safe would survive, but would the heat ruin the guns.

Brion

Flyboy73
March 22, 2009, 02:22 AM
double tap

Flyboy73
March 22, 2009, 08:23 PM
JFH,

On your 50 plus safe, how much room do you have between gun? Is it your only going to 50 single barrel shotguns in it? Most of my guns are Milsurp, so room between bolts is allways a issue.

Bropm

jfh
March 23, 2009, 03:19 PM
OK, I finally got downstairs to measure this up. Specifically--this is the model that is about 40"w X 30"d X 72" h.

I bought the version that is "one-half shelves and one-half long guns."

On that one, I have room for 28 long guns (I misspoke earlier), arranged in four tiers of seven.

1. The total width is about 20";

2. The rows are about 5&1/2" 'deep'

3. Each notch is about 2&7/8" from the other.

The only minor complaint I have hear is that the top rack is 34" up from the floor--and is too high up to hold short carbines or youth rifles.

When I had more long guns in it, it was tight--and, IIRC, bolts had to be closed.

Jim H.

Flyboy73
March 23, 2009, 06:19 PM
I am waiting to get the price list mailed to me.

Sounds like there may be more room between guns, then there is other small safe and RSC. In them you can't get a row of bolt gun, without the bolts hitting. I will have to measure them VS. the Zanotti.

Thanks for the interior measurements, it helps.

Brion

Flyboy73
March 27, 2009, 05:36 PM
Got the price list today. The 52 gun 60" high is $1873 plus shipping, plus any options.

JFH,

Did you get the fully upholstered interior? Or just the basic one. Wondering if its worth the extra money.

Brion

Ben Shepherd
March 27, 2009, 05:39 PM
Schedule 40 PVC pipe cut to length makes dandy rollers for heavy stuff......as well as good mortar tubes for fun fireworks. Makes 90 degree corners much easier.

jfh
March 28, 2009, 10:08 AM
Flyboy73: Yes, I got the carpeted interior I don't remember the details about ordering it--but it provides a very relatively-scratch-free environment.

I do keep many of my (remaining) firearms in socks now--i.e, they're the collectibles; the shooters are either in a range bag or hard case, or about the house.

Your price is not noticably higher than mine--how much is the carpet now?

Ben Shepherd: PVC pipe for rolling is a good idea, but we simply manhandled the individual pieces to the build location and built it in place.

Jim H.

Flyboy73
March 28, 2009, 10:09 PM
Its a $160 option.

Brion

krs
March 29, 2009, 12:02 PM
Most of my guns are Milsurp, so room between bolts is allways a issue.

Uhhh, I got an idea - take out the bolts :what::rolleyes:

krs
March 29, 2009, 12:05 PM
Rondog.......look at the new expansion kit.......http://www.dakotasafe.com/expansion.html

interesting, no?

Flyboy73
March 29, 2009, 05:56 PM
Just what i need a pile of mauser type bolts, that i need to label to figure out which one goes with the proper gun. Think i will keep the bolts in the guns. :rolleyes:

Brion

billdeserthills
March 29, 2009, 06:06 PM
As a Locksmith/Gun Dealer I bought a Zanotti safe for a client, he wanted a safe put into a room that had a doorway that measured 11 inches wide, this safe worked great for that, but I would never use one if I had the room far a "Real" gun safe. Too damn wobbly, even after assembled, for my taste in safes.

Lou McGopher
March 29, 2009, 06:56 PM
What are the UL ratings for these?

From what I've seen, most safes under $3k won't stand up to a guy with a crowbar and sledgehammer for more than 30-60 minutes.

Lou McGopher
March 29, 2009, 07:03 PM
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a1abdj
March 29, 2009, 09:35 PM
What are the UL ratings for these?

From what I've seen, most safes under $3k won't stand up to a guy with a crowbar and sledgehammer for more than 30-60 minutes.

There is only one company that I'm aware of (AMSEC) that builds a UL burglary rated gun safe. There are a few other companies (like Graffunder) that build non UL rated safes that can be equally secure.

Most gun safes sold under $3K won't stand up to a crowbar and sledgehammer for more than 5 minutes.

A safe with a 60 minute burglary rating large enough for guns would start in the mid 5 figures.

Lou McGopher
March 29, 2009, 10:38 PM
Might as well not even bother. Get a good cabinet to keep out the kids, and leave it a that.

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