Hello all. I have a bunch of .223 brass that I cannot find an ID of the maker. The only markings on the headstamp is an "83" at the 12 o'clock position, and a "12" at the 6 o'clock position. Any ideas?
Second issue is that I cannot get the primers out of this evil stuff. I think the flash hole may be too small for my lee decapper. I have read about the issues others have had with crimped .223, and have tried about all the tricks with not much luck. Any help would be appreciated.
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March 19, 2009, 01:19 AM
Can you post a picture of the head stamp on the brass? It might help in identification. For instance, if the 3 in 83 is an incomplete 8 instead, then 88 is from Western Cartridge Company (Olin), East Alton, IL.
So, pics please.:)
March 19, 2009, 01:33 AM
IF you email me a pic, we'll tell what the deal is. If you don't have any luck eslewhere. Don't want to rain on anyone's pararde, just like to be at service.
March 19, 2009, 03:10 AM
Take a small penlight or flashlight and look into the bottom of the case. If there is one flash hole in the middle it is just Boxer primed with a tight hole and probably a crimped primer.
If there are TWO flash holes off center, you have Berdan primed brass and for all intents and purposes it is not worth the hassle of messing with- they have not imported Berdan primers in years.
It sounds like some I had last year that had a 3-notch primer crimp and Berdan primed. Scrap bucket in that case.
March 19, 2009, 12:26 PM
I've seen this brass, I think. I don't know what nationality it is, but is is berdan primed and not reloadable without special tools and berdan primers. In other words- not worth the trouble even remotely for a common round like .223.
March 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
"Berdan primed" was what it was guys, thanks much. Amazing what a little light on the subject can do.
I am still interested in knowing what make these are.