[GSB]

Saw this at another forum:

To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them.

I guess planning for a fire by having a fire extinguisher is allowing fear and paranoia to run my life. Ditto seatbelts and carrying a cell phone in my car in case the car breaks down. Sigh. There is no reasoning with such a person, I fear.

[Bill Hook]

Some folks won't be separated from their Darwinian destinies.


Who am I to insist otherwise?;)

[willyjixx]

well when was the last time a liberal was accused of common sense? or feinstein, or shwimmer (whatever) or rosie.........yada yada yada!

[Black Snowman]

It's them taking us with them that we have to worry about. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

[Mark Tyson]

And I thought the mantra of the blissninnies was "safety at all costs".

Seatbelts? We don't need no stinking seatbelts! Wearing a hardhat at a construction site . . . . ha! Why bother? You mean you've never known the thrill of running in and out of traffic or playing golf in a lightning storm? Loosen up, man, you can't be paranoid about dying!

"Oh the hell with the child seat, honey. It's a dangerous world. Kid's just gonna die, anyway."

Man, what a riot.

[jsalcedo]

Some folks have become adept at communicating from the nether orifice.

[GSB]

Seatbelts? We don't need no stinking seatbelts! Wearing a hardhat at a construction site . . . . ha! Why bother? You mean you've never known the thrill of running in and out of traffic or playing golf in a lightning storm? Loosen up, man, you can't be paranoid about dying!

I like to disable all the safeties on my 1911, put a 1 lb trigger on it, and carry it like that at full cock so that nobody will think I'm paranoid about an ND.

[ChickenHawk]

So, does that person not lock his doors at night?

Maybe doesn't even have locks on his doors? :uhoh:

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

[Tierhog]

Wow.

Thats all I can say.

[cool45auto]

:eek: Unbelievable.

[spacemanspiff]

i had one anti say that crimes occur to the people who fear such crimes. and without that *fear*, the world would be a safe place.

this woman blamed all violent crime upon the fears of the victims. i kid you not! she said rape victims became victims only because they feared being raped.
when i asked her how she anticipates an encounter with a rapist she says 'oh i'll see them and recognize them as such so i'll never be in that situation'.

anothe anti said 'i cant trust anyone to carry a concealed weapon, they could be a wacko!' she also advocated longer waiting periods to buy a gun, and said 'if a man has a fight with his wife, he could go buy a gun and come home and kill her with it!' i countered with 'well its far more likely that the woman would go buy the gun to defend herself with'.
that one anti asked me to stop talking to her about the 2nd amendment and firearms. think she knew she was on the losing end of an emotional debate. she said she could trust the statistics the VPC and brady campaign provided, but the ones the NRA provides are inaccurate. :barf: :barf:

[GSB]

spacemanspiff wins. I can't match that.

[Standing Wolf]

Yeah, that's why I traded my carry gun in on a lucky rabbit's foot.

[Moparmike]

she said she could trust the statistics the VPC and brady campaign provided, but the ones the NRA provides are inaccurate.Oh, but of course. Only the statistics that you agree with are the ones that are reliable.:scrutiny: :barf:

Someone hit me in my car because I was afraid it was going to happen? Riiiiigggghhhttt.:scrutiny:

"To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them."She should be walking around nude and have no possessions. After all, if she wears clothes she is obviously paranoid about freezing or getting too hot, perverts leering at her, rapists, the weather, ad nauseam. Bad things happen anyway, and all those things she has wont prevent it according to her logic. Why does she have them? If she has possessions (ranging from food to a house to entertainment devices to a raincoat) she is obviously paranoid that she will starve to death, be endangered from the elements, not be entertained, have needs, what ever.

I have met some morons in my time, but Sweet Jesus she takes the cake.:banghead: :fire: :scrutiny: :scrutiny: :barf:

[jimbo]

How about:

To "purchase car insurance" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Traffic accidents are going to happen and whether you have insurance or not isn't going to stop them."

Or substitute "health insurance" or "Life Insurance".

Liberals are Idiots.:barf:

[Bill Hook]

Could you encourage this dingy woman to take up bear watching? :evil:

[chaim]

Saw this at another forum:

"To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them."
Brought to you by the same people who brought you mandatory seatbelt laws, mandatory motorcycle helmet laws and even mandatory bicycle helmet laws (for kids in most states, occasionally attempted, and rarely adopted, for adults in some areas) in the name of "if it saves just one life...".

[Chairman Meow]

Hah! I love this crap, really I do. I get such a kick out of watching people convince themselves that they are in control of their lives, because in a way they are. Right up till the moment someone kills them. :D

[Drjones]

"To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them."

This quote reminded me of these:



"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

- Samuel Adams


War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest thing. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war is worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing about which he cares more than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

- John Stuart Mill c. 1775

"That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him Depart...
We would not die in that man's company
that fears his fellowship to die with us."
- W. Shakespeare, Henry V



What a sad, sad being indeed....

[Drjones]

Chairman:

:D :D :D

[GSB]

Brought to you by the same people who brought you mandatory seatbelt laws, mandatory motorcycle helmet laws and even mandatory bicycle helmet laws (for kids in most states, occasionally attempted, and rarely adopted, for adults in some areas) in the name of "if it saves just one life...".

Good point. Hadn't thought of it from that angle, but it is ironic.

[sm]

"To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them."
Interesting, I had had a discussion with an instructor the previous semester from UK, she has been here about 14 years. We had gotton into it about gun laws and the problem the UK is having. She really believes and says things like the quote.

I was out with a lady friend and another couple, to a theatre showing, which didn't let out till around midnight, not a good part of town. Just as we are about to exit, this former instructor runs up to us (recognizing me and another from being in previous class) and asks if we would walk out with her. "I'm sorry, but our attitude of situational awareness might draw BGs our way...wouldn't want to place you in danger". We left her dumfounded at the door. I mean all 4 of us were CCW'ing, couldn't put her in "bad company" now could I ? ;)

[Wanderer]

Yeah, if someone tries to kill ya, you might as well give up. You're gonna die sometime anyway...







:cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead:

[Weimadog]

re1973,

Shouldn't there be some sort of award for what you did?:)

Maybe a "Best Situational Lesson for a Blissninny" award?

Weimadog

[XLMiguel]

A little OT, but that aattitude makes me realize I have under-estimated the diversity of Darwin candidates. I thought the call of the Darwinaire was, "Hold my beer and watch this!". Now I see that there is a subspecies that goes, "Fear not! You won't get hurt if your aren't afraid!"

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[sm]

Immediate dumfounded look for the four of us quite sufficient. :)

We did get "looks" on campus later...but I doubt any of us will ever had a class in that dept. again. If so there are other instructors. Of course two of us have transferred to another College. I don't believe or subscribe to everything taught in a bldg. with "Education" over the entrance .( or any other "name" over the entrance for that matter).

REALITY is not always the same as theory and ideals.

[Grey54956]

Ummmm...

anothe anti said 'i cant trust anyone to carry a concealed weapon, they could be a wacko!' she also advocated longer waiting periods to buy a gun, and said 'if a man has a fight with his wife, he could go buy a gun and come home and kill her with it!' i countered with 'well its far more likely that the woman would go buy the gun to defend herself with'.

Sounds like this woman is letting the fear of men ruin her life...

If a man gets into an argument with his wife, he is more likely to apologize to her and try to get on her good side; an angry wife means no "sweet lovin'" for the husband.

Of course, I don't think that men are the only ones capable of violence. Poor, poor Phil Hartman.

[Felonious Monk]

"To "plan for self defense" is allowing fear and paranoia to run your life. Bad things are going to happen and whether you have a gun or not isn't going to stop them."

Now, click your heels together like this, and say it with me:
"There's NO place like home. There's NO place like home." :cool:

[Carlos Cabeza]

There's a guy I work with who has the same opinion of gun owners and CCW holders. He thinks that people who carry have some fear of being attacked. That they are anticipating an attack. That it would be pre-meditated murder for someone to defend themselves from a violent attacker because they somehow "knew" that the attack was going to happen. I think he's really just a misguided soul trying to straddle the fence on issues that he knows nothing about just to "fit in". I am trying to point out instances that could make him realize the numbskull way he thinks.

[Bill Hook]

I am trying to point out instances that could make him realize the numbskull way he thinks.

Numbskulls wouldn't be numbskulls if they could comprehend that fact.

Stop annoying yourself.

[Carlos Cabeza]

Well, he does like to ride the fence. Almost hypocritical in nature. When around Mrs. soandso, he shares her views and opinions, When around Mr. J. Schmo, he shares Mr. Schmo's views and opinions. He knows I carry and says it doesn't bother him, but in another conversation he states the crap in the previous post.:rolleyes:

[Archer]

I am far, far more concerned about having people like that around.

I guess ignorance really IS bliss....

:barf:

[greyhound]

Though I certainly agree with all the sentiment here, I wonder if sometimes some of us take it too far. A couple of my gun friends pretty much hate to leave their house or will not travel into Baltimore at all out of concern for crime (since no CCW in MD (may issue my foot)).

They're pretty much in Code Red 24/7 and are convinced that some poverty stricken youth bent on mischief is around every corner. Basically, they have ceased to interact with society at all.

Now, this only describes 2 people I know, but still and all its kinda sad.

I practice SA and arm myself at all times to the fullest extent the (crummy) state law allows, but I also try to enjoy life - we may have a crime problem here, but its far from a war zone.

Be prepared, but live a little too, I say....

[natedog]

If they choose to live their life that way (gunless), and could very well be Darwinated due to their choice not to use effective survival tools, then that is fine with me. The gene pool could use a little chlorine...

What really gets me, though, is when these people try to press their stupidity on others, or, worse yet, try to press it on society as a whole through gun-control laws.

[LiquidTension]

My mom gives me the "you're afraid to go out without your gun" garbage every now and then. I try to explain to her that fear has nothing to do with it, but she doesn't believe me. I don't go places that don't let me carry because I disagree with their misguided policies, not because I'm convinced that someone will rob me the minute I walk in the door (although such places are perfect for that, since nobody can carry there :rolleyes: )

If I CAN go armed, why wouldn't I? No telling what kind of stuff could happen on a normal day - caught up in a bank robbery, liquor store hold up, mugging, stumble across a rapist at work, run into a gang that doesn't like Whitey, rabid mongoose, locked in a freezer - the list is endless.

Then there's this mindset: "...it would be pre-meditated murder for someone to defend themselves from a violent attacker because they somehow "knew" that the attack was going to happen..."

Sometimes (I stress sometimes, this definitely does not apply to all people, just the dumb ones), I think people like this should be held partly accountable if THEY get injured, because they intentionally put themselves in a situation where they could not protect themselves. You get in trouble for not having car insurance, especially if you get in a wreck, so why not get in trouble for failing to secure your person from harm? You can get in trouble for not securing someone ELSE from harm. I guess I just want people to be punished for being dumb. Oh well, we can all dream...

[goon]

I will agree that bad things will happen in life, and that you will more often than not be prepared for them.
But I would ask the person that made that comment one question.
Does that mean that a police officer shouldn't carry a sidearm?

The funny thing about criminals is that they usually have a problem with having rapid, semi-automatic fire directed at them. It seems to have some negative effects on their health.
Hence my Kalashnikov...:p

At any rate, I could care less what they choose to do.
As long as I am armed and they aren't, I will be safer.
Why pick on a well armed person with enough firepower to hold off a horde of Mongols when you could just rob some unarmed idiot with only a cell phone?

[GSB]

Though I certainly agree with all the sentiment here, I wonder if sometimes some of us take it too far.

There will always be the high-speed, low-drag Mall Ninja contingent. Nothing will change that. I don't know what "too far" is though. Pilots do a lot of "hangar flying". They also spend quite of bit of time, if they are smart, looking at the accident summaries in Flying Magazine and trying to learn something. For the most part I think that's what we do here.

[XLMiguel]

1. - Chance favors the prepared mind.

2. - Having the right tool(s) at hand to leverage the mindset enhances one's chances of a happy and successful life.

That's all I'm gonna say.

[WonderNine]

Unfortunately GSB, in my internet surfing I see morons like this all the time. It's very depressing. Perhaps you could point this person towards this thread. Might be funny to see their reaction....:D

[durango]

Reminds me of the most moronic argument I heard against arming pilots. Woman on TV spouting off that "pilots are busy enough flying an airplane, they shouldn't have to be bothering themselves with trying to use guns too"

Lotta good logic there!