Best Carry ammo in .40S&W


March 19, 2009, 05:51 PM
So I like to replace my carry ammo every 3-4months in my carry gun which is a .40S&W M&P. In the past I have carried Federal Hydra-shok. Currently Using Hornaday TAP. I didnt like the Hydra-shok because even after a few weeks of chambering and unhambering a round would show early signs of bullet setback (or at least I think it was setback either way it was a rather interesting cri
mp as seen in this thread ( I have no real complaints against the Hornaday TAP but am always open to something better.

I know a lot of guys, including Michael Bane swear by Hornday DPX I have never tried that. The idea of the Pow-R Ball seems like a great idea but I have heard pretty bad things about those as well.

So here are my requirements and any suggestions are welcome.

1. Reliable feeding
2. JHP (although I might be interested to test out the idea of an expanding full metal jacket)
3. Good penetration
4. at least some what reasonably priced (in general I consider $1/rnd or less reasonable for carry ammo) While I hate to ever put a "price" on my safety I like to be able to buy a few boxes of any new ammo so I can confirm that it feeds and shoots alright before I actually make the switch.

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March 19, 2009, 06:11 PM
golden sabers, XTP's HXT's, GOLD dots, not in any particular order. I'm almost positive that you could find those for around 1$ or less per round.

1500 posts and you dont know the answer to what kind of hp's??

people sometimes put the round that was in the chamber in the bottom of the mag so it takes longer for bullet setback to come into play. I dont do that because it seems like it compresses and decompresses mag springs too much.

Personally, when I go to the range I shoot the first mag that is full of my defensive/carry rounds, the mag that is in the gun all the time. Then I use the target rounds I have. I do this because I IWB carry and it gets some lint in some places. When you just pull it out and shoot your carry rounds you know you will be good if you ever have to use your gun in a defensive situation and you've been carrying for a few weeks.

March 19, 2009, 06:18 PM
Hornadys critical defense ammo seems like a solid round, very consistent expansion. Although I don't think they have a .40 load yet. I just picked some up in 9mm and am excited to do some testing.

I'd look for a .40 load sometime in the near future.

March 19, 2009, 06:30 PM
call your local PD and ask them what they use.

that way when you have to shoot someone they can't say you were using "super fancy expanding man killer hollow point choir kid life ruiners". You were using what the cops use.

March 19, 2009, 06:31 PM
1500 posts and you dont know the answer to what kind of hp's??

In that 1500 posts I have learned that there is no one answer. And you will notice that I start a lot of threads anyway.

March 19, 2009, 06:35 PM
Ranger Lawman ammo

March 19, 2009, 06:37 PM
Federal Tactical HST 180gr.
(Gold Dots are my second choice)

As someone else said here, anything less than this expansion and weight retention is simply unacceptable:

call your local PD and ask them what they use.

Not necessarily good advice. PDs usually carry what the bean counters tell them to, and not typically a decent round. A local PD around here carries WWB FMJ in their Glock 22s... :what:
If you know someone from the local SWAT team, ask them - THEY usually carry the good stuff (Federal HST, or Winchester Ranger).

March 19, 2009, 06:49 PM
For the last year I have been very comfortable with carrying doubletap 165gr gold dots in my CZ40B. After reading this review of fiocchi 165gr JHP ammo I decided to pick up 500 rounds as a possible successor once my DT supply dries up.

March 19, 2009, 07:04 PM
kd7nqb... I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I was just surprised, so don't take offense.

March 22, 2009, 06:07 PM
My Favorites are the Hornady Critical Defense. YES, Hornady makes it cause I have it! they have a black shell with a center gold dot. It's really WEIRD though that they don't even list it on their website. I have the 140 grain. I feel the lighter weights are more accurate. I shot three rounds off at the range as my first fires on a new target and all were bullseye within a 2 inch group at 28 feet. Oh and used my Glock 23 pistol.

March 22, 2009, 10:25 PM
winchester silvertips. Best groups I have shot out a G23. Not for the recoil sensitive though, in a smaller package!

March 22, 2009, 11:27 PM
I like Golden Sabers myself. They are cheaper than Speer Gold Dots, but just as effective. That said, if I could find some Federal HST's, I would love to try them out. They just appear amazing in all the test fires I have seen.

March 22, 2009, 11:37 PM
I use a .40 S&W as my primary CCW, so I spent some time on this question. I just ordered a case of DoubleTap 165 gr Gold Dots. Local PD uses Gold Dots for a reason, and DT loads them hot @ 1200+ FPS. I stick wih the 165's because they are light enough to be effective from a short barrel G27, but heavy enough to do the trick. Great energy figures as well, trumps most factory .45 ACP; even +P offerings.

March 22, 2009, 11:38 PM
I use Federal Hydra-Shoks in my .40.

March 23, 2009, 12:31 AM
Speer 180 gr goldots. I've put down 2 muledeer with these rounds and they work exceptionally well.

March 23, 2009, 11:18 AM

Cor-Bon DPX is expensive at almost $2 a round, but is about as good as you can get!


March 23, 2009, 11:25 AM
I like the Gold Dot in both 155 and 180, depending on the season. My Sig is more accurate with DT's load than Speer's, so that's what I carry. For outdoors and auto-traveling, I have a mag loaded with the 200 grain HC.

March 23, 2009, 05:51 PM
I don't mind paying a bit more for my defense ammo as hopefully I won't ever actually have to use it, you know?

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