[Moparmike]

http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/pistols/witness/images/witnessfullsize.jpg

I was researching Witness 10mm's (as I am about to purchase one), and noticed that it looks like its trying to be a cross between a 1911 and something else. Is it considered a stepchild to the 1911 family, or just on its own?

THanks,

[Soap]

It essentially mirrors the CZ-75 design IIRC.

[chevrofreak]

its nothing like a 1911 except the oversized looking beavertail looking thing

[Moparmike]

Yep, that is the main part that threw me for a loop. Thanks.

[nemesis]

It's a Chay-Zed. Only thing on it that looks 1911-ish is the beavertail. Front strap, back strap and slide don't look like a 1911 at all. Check the trigger.

[Pumpkinheaver]

CZ-75 clone.

[10-Ring]

Nawh, it has some serious CZ tendancies, but it would be a stretch to imply 1911-ness :scrutiny:

[JimJD]

Like others have stated, it's a CZ clone.
But, it does have fewer parts. Overall internal design has been simplified.
I've heard some good things about the Tanfoglio/EAA versions.
Although, I've also heard some really horrible things about their customer service, etc. if you should need it.
I remember this topic being brought up at the CZforum.

[VG]

CZ75B Earlier models had a rounded trigger guard. Note alignment dots on the slide and frame - that's how they take down :
http://www.czub.cz/products/firearms/CZ_75_B/CZ_75_B.jpg

CZ97, including beavertail thang:


http://www.czub.cz/products/firearms/CZ_97_B/CZ_97_B.jpg

[C.R.Sam]

I see nothing 1911ish about it.

Sam

[Illuminate]

More BHPish than 1911.

[PCRCCW]

Big Negatory....CZ all of the way. The 75 was BHP influenced..but not at all a clone / copy. The Witness guns are pretty dang (UT sware word :D )
nice...well worth the money......Well, until CZ makes a 10mm.

Shoot well.................

[Futo Inu]

Thread drift: What size fullcaps can you get for the Witness 10mm?

[Kevinch]

Does the Witness have a trigger pull similar to that of a CZ?

I only have 1 CZ pistol, a Model 83. One word to describe the trigger pull:

smoooooooooooth :)

[PCRCCW]

You can get 15-16 rnds Hi Caps for the 10mm but they are like "Hi priced Glock mags".....upwards of 75-85$ You can find them here

http://www.savvysurvivor.com/handguns_and_handgun_magazines_f.htm

The triggers on the Witness guns are (gulp :uhoh: ) probably a little better in general than the CZ guns of recent production. You need to fire your new CZ at least 2-500 rnds to really see what the trigger is like.

In a nut shell, longer DA pull that is very smooth and SA pull thats very very nice. Short, light and breaks like your mom-in-laws crystal on a drunken new years eve :D

BTW...no DA gun really is as consistantly good in the trigger as a CZ83 is.
The Colt Pythons of days gone by are about the most worthy comparison.
If you guys havent tried one...........try one. :D

Shoot well.

[teppo-shu]

Don't know about the Witness, but the CZ97 is sweeeeeeeeeeet.:p Go Gitcha One!!

edited: the CZ97 takes the Witness .45 mags - made by Mec-Gar

[michiganfan]

I have a Witness 10mm ported in the Wonderfinish. It is a fun gun to shoot. As I recall someone has one for sale, not me, either here or at Glocktalk.

[Dionysusigma]

Maybe it's just me, but that pic of the CZ-75B looks like a 1911 that thinks it's a Beretta...:rolleyes: