help picking first handgun
Gunn Noob
March 20, 2009, 03:09 AM
I'm about to buy my first handgun (21st birthday is next month) and have been lurking around here for idas but that has just left me with even more ideas, so I thought I'd ask.
I have about 450 dollars to work with and I'm trying to pick a pistol that'd be good for multiple roles. I'd like it to be good for selfdefense primarily while being a shooter secondly.
thus far revolvers have been the ones that have caught my eye the most and as far as semi automatics I don't even know hwere to begin on looking.
I appreciate any help I can get.
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Revolver Ocelot
March 20, 2009, 03:18 AM
Given that you want it to be primarily for sd and still want to have fun shooting it I'd look into a ruger sp101.
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DiTzMaN
March 20, 2009, 06:01 AM
My advice for a first handgun for most people is something in .22 LR. No recoil, mild report, and cheap to shoot -- all good points for developing handgunning fundamentals. Granted, not a defense weapon, but then again if you can't hit what you are shooting at no caliber is not good for defense. My $.02.
Taurus_9mm
March 20, 2009, 08:33 AM
A .22 revolver is what I'll usually recommend to someone that's new to firearms as well. If you're set on a centerfire though, you can probably get a Rossi R97206, Taurus M66 or Taurus Tracker and still have money left to burn. The first two are .357 Magnums while the Tracker can be had in .22LR, .357 Magnum and some other chamberings.
www.taurusarmed.net
MachIVshooter
March 20, 2009, 09:14 AM
What is your experience level with handguns or firearms in general? If you've done some shooting and have become acquainted with recoil, and like revolvers, it'd be hard to beat a full size .357 for utility. Run .38 special for range use, full loads for defense.
You can pick up a nice used Ruger GP100 for $300-$350, and sometimes even find a S&W 586/686 in that price range. Come to think of it, I own one Ruger and four S&W .357's, and didn't pay over $400 for any of them.
SeanRP
March 20, 2009, 09:14 AM
I had been told (and now i tell others the same) that learning on a .22 is is a good way to start, especially if your just starting to get into pistol shooting in general.
If your looking to do a lot of target shooting (maybe a local pistol league on the side, depending on how much you like it) I would recommend a Ruger as well. My first was a Ruger Mark III, very accurate and very cheap to fire. I've spent the past 2-3 months working with it, and i feel a lot more comfortable (and informed for that matter) now that I'm looking to get my general carry pistol.
skwab
March 20, 2009, 09:23 AM
The only problem with a .22 is that you can't use it for self defense. My recommendation would be for something in a duty size 9mm. And I know some might ridicule me for suggesting a 9mm auto for a first timer, but here is my thinking behind it.
9mm is a nice all around round. Not heavy in the recoil department, semi-inexpensive to shoot, and with the availability of premium self defense rounds makes it a great self-defense tool.
But I am assuming that this is going to be your only pistol for a while so it needs to be something that can keep you happy for a while. A.22 will leave you wanting more after a few trips to the range. It would be better to start off with a more versatile platform, and then spend some money on ammo and practice instead of buying a .22 and then 3 mos later wanting something else, and then plopping down a few hundred more bucks on a second gun. Also, I would highly suggest you take a beginners pistol course at a local range.
But spend the money on a quality gun that will meet your needs and then practice practice practice and really learn how to use it.
My first handgun that I bought myself was a beretta 92fs. And it was perfect as a first buy - 9mm, plenty of available info to learn how to strip it and clean it properly, etc (you have to remember there was a time when there wasn't an internet) plenty of available parts / mags etc and something that was important to me was that it had a manual safety if for anything else a little peace of mind. So for what it's worth - but you can get into just as much trouble with a .22 revolver as you can a 9mm pistol if you don't respect it and do something foolish.
LoneCoon
March 20, 2009, 09:33 AM
I agree with Skwab. Give you're young and probably don't have a ton of disposable income, a full size 9mm is probably your best bet for a handgun to learn on.
I have a S&W 439 and would recommend it to anyone even as a first gun. Nearly any RELIABLE full sized 9mm like Glock, Beretta, or S&W is a good choice.
skoro
March 20, 2009, 01:57 PM
I'm going to recommend a used S&W Model 10 or 64. They're identical, except that the Model 64 is stainless and the 10 is blued. They're readily available in great condition on the used market for less than your $450 figure. They can take 38+P and they're excellent handlers that are easy to shoot accurately, so they're good defensive firearms. As a matter of fact, they were THE sidearm of choice for most of America's law enforcement agencies for decades. The 4" barrel length seems to be the best compromise for most purposes.
The ammo is more expensive than .22 of course, but it's much more capable, too.
http://web.utk.edu/~giles/third.html
http://www.bayourovers.com/bothModel10-5s.jpg
searcher451
March 20, 2009, 03:39 PM
First, don't believe anything that you hear from your friends. Next, don't believe anything that you read or see online.
So what to do? Simple.
Go to a range that rents guns and spend some time running some rounds through various makes and models and calibers. Narrow it down to a couple, spend some serious time with them, and then come back the next day or even a week later and spend some more time with them. Eventually you'll make an informed decision that will be right for you.
An informed decision is what you want here ... not some spur-of-the-moment thing because you liked the look of the gun or saw it in a movie or someone posted a nifty comment about it.
armslist
March 20, 2009, 03:58 PM
Revolvers are great, a 38 is probably ideal for ammo availability etc. You can get a Taurus 38 that is lightweight and easy to carry in your price range. You can just as easily throw a 38 in your glove box too.
But if you don't get a revolver of some kind, since nobody has said it yet...I say go with a 1911. That was my first purchase, and I've never looked back.
My personal advice aside, the above post about renting some guns is a good idea. Although depending on how much you spend renting...you could just buy a used pistol, and sell it later. You can easily break-even doing that, and only have to pay for ammo. It's amazing how many of us don't really sell guns very often though, haha.
JHK94
March 20, 2009, 04:20 PM
I bought my first handgun a year or so ago, and it was a Smith & Wesson Model 10. Great first handgun for me: I got it for ~200 bucks, it was easy to operate, fun to shoot, ammo is easy to get, etc etc.
Of course, after shooting it a while, and realizing how much I liked it, I had to buy a Ruger MKI .22 as well!
Guillermo
March 21, 2009, 11:19 AM
as to what you should buy, I know not. Your experience, budget and objectives will hopefully lead you to the right gun.
I can tell you that in my never-so-humble-opinion these are 2 "must haves" for any gun owner.
A good quality .22. If the budget does not allow for a nice revolver a good auto loader is a versatile plinking, training, small game gun. Many manufacturers have made good ones, including, but not limited to Ruger, Browning, Sig, Smith. (my Smith model 41 from the 50's is incredible)
A good 4 inch .357. Stick with a Colt, Smith (prelock) or Ruger and you will be fine. A versatile weapon, you can shoot 38's out of it, great as a sidearm, backpacker, self defense.
How much do I really believe this? I gave my daughter a Browning Buckmark for her 11th b-day and a 4 inch Smith model 19 for her 15th.
For me, a good snubby for concealed carry is also required. (of course in a perfect world, we would all have a couple or more each in the calibers .380, 9mm, 10mm, 40cal, 45acp, 41 Magnum, 45 Long Colt, 45acp, 44 magnum too)
Duke of Doubt
March 21, 2009, 11:48 AM
I moonlight as a firearms instructor, and I always recommend the Smith & Wesson Model 10 as a first gun. Plentiful, cheap, tried and true, and well-built.
For those who insist on a 9mm autoloader, I always recommed the Beretta 92FS.
Forget those other second-rate brands; this is your first gun. For awhile it will be your only gun. Excellent used Model 10s are $250 - $350; excellent used 92FSs are $350 to $450. Spend the extra money on cheap practice ammunition and range membership.
CalvinandHobbes
March 21, 2009, 02:22 PM
Hi there and welcome to the High Road. I found myself in your same situation only a few months ago. (I had just got my CCW over the summer while home from college before Obama got in office and wanted to purchase a handgun pretty quickly after). I didn't have much money (maybe $350) and didn't quite know where to start.
Well, let me tell you now, a great place to start was the concealed carry course we had to take (10hrs in OH). I got to meet a few "gun people" (and I am one now, ha!) and just asked all sorts of questions and handled alot of firearms - shooting, taking down, helping clean - maybe 7 different guns altogether. In the course of a day I pretty much determined I'd like something like SKWAB is saying.
Money was an issue. I'm a college student; I could only purchase one firearm. I knew I wanted something with more rounds than a wheel gun and large enough to work as a Self Defense gun. I ran across some cool poeple at the gun shop where the course was at who showed me their latest purchases (Sig p-6) and I knew from my military training that Sig is a great manufacturer. I picked one up from AIMs Surplus and couldn't be happier about my decision.
It's a 9mm, small enough to carry when I want to, and large enough to be a solid, accurate pistol. A big thing was I knew it was made by sig-arms so I knew I wouldn't need to deal with things going wrong as a result of poor workmanship or cheap materials etc. I've fired a good 2000 rounds through it without one hitch and incredible accuracy. Cost? $260
Bottom line, IMHO:
-consider a surplus firearm? Very reliable and well built usually if you do your research. In any event. Get a good brand. It's worth making your first purchase something that's not a piece of junk
-I'd get something larger than .22 if I were you, just be sure to practice quite a bit (which shouldn't be a problem b/c it's FUN) and if you get 9mm ammo, it's still quite reasonable.
-get something you like! I don't think I'll ever sell my first firearm. I like it too much.
Shop around online there's all kinds of stuff out there if you're open to a surplus/trade-in firearm. (Sig-p6s still, CZ-82s, and of course a .38/.357 as suggested here would be great too)
Good luck. Keep us posted with what you decide and if you have any more questions. This board was (and continues to be) a great place for me to learn!
Best,
Chris Hernandez
BCRider
March 22, 2009, 12:29 AM
I'd second searcher's suggestion to spend some of your money at a Rent-a-Gun range and try out a bunch of different pistols. Nothing speaks to you like shooting them for yourself.
Points to pay attention to are first off bring the gun up in a natural grip and see if it's pointed more or less to where you're looking. Then shoot them and see if you find that one or the other seems to group better and work well for YOU. Take a pad along and take notes on how it feels, how well it naturally points when presented to your target view, how easily it comes back to sight on the target after firing a shot and the group size for about 15 rounds.
I'd also have to say that I like the suggestion of DoD above for a Model 10 for a revolver. I was given the chance to put a box of ammo through one a while back and it was one very sweet shooting gun. It seemed to almost aim itself and I got some really tight groups, possibly my best ever.
Another "surprise" for me was when I shot a Glock 17 in 9mm. I had to run back and satisfy myself that I could match it with my own CZ. I breathed a serious sigh of relief when I realized that no, I didn't need to buy one of those plastic contraptions.... :D This is not to say that the Glock isn't a worthy firearm. I was quite impressed with it and there's no doubt that for putting bullets where you want them that they are superb. However I just don't personally care for plastic guns. Mind you, if I had to pack it in my waistband or under my arm all day I would change my tune pretty quickly.
I don't have anything to offer about concealed carry since up here the only concealled carry we are allowed is to put our handguns into a locked box for transport to the range.
Brian Dale
March 22, 2009, 06:20 AM
You're right: revolvers are cooler. ;)
I strongly suggest considering used handguns. If you have $450 to work with and you're willing to look around a bit, you have the wherewithal to pick up a fine quality, used Smith or Ruger and a some ammo for it, as well. You might also find an "underpriced" Colt...maybe all good revolvers are underpriced, but collectors are pushing Colt prices up fast.
If it's possible that you'll have the budget for both in the next year or so, you might look for a good .22 revolver first, shoot it a lot, then buy a medium framed, good quality .38 Special or .357 Magnum after that. If you're sure that you want a defensive revolver right now, then go for a .38 or .357 first. You might very well pick up a .22 later on, when you get involved in shooting and want to improve faster and for less money.
Fair warning: the .22 revolver might cost you more than a .38 would. That's normal; you'll make it up in less expensive ammunition. If you plan to keep a gun for defense, you need to learn how to shoot it well. I'm not writing all of this to beat you up; other, newer people are probably lurking and learning just as you have done.
Keep in mind that newer is not necessarily better. New is just fine, but some of the old revolvers that are still on the market, as long as they're still mechanically sound, are very good indeed. Common, medium framed Smiths that you might encounter include the Model 10 (blued, .38Spl), 13 (blued, .357), 64 (stainless, .38) and 65 (stainless, .357). You probably already know that you can shoot .38 Special ammunition in a .357 Magnum revolver but that .357 Magnum ammunition won't fit in a revolver chambered in .38 Spl. This makes the .357 more versatile (more loads it can handle), but you'll often find .38s with lower prices because of that. There are other good ones, too. Ruger SP101s are out there, for example, and from what I can tell, they're built like tanks.
If you've been lurking, you already know a lot of the terms that are used to describe handguns. Here's a thread on checking out a used revolver for mechanical soundness (this is a link). (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=1430)
For more general information: have you read this thread? (another link) (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=338308)
There's a huge amount of information in that thread; don't worry about knowing it all right away. There might be things there that you'll find useful.
There's also Kathy Jackson's web site, the Cornered Cat. (http://www.corneredcat.com/) Some folks have remarked that the color scheme there seems a bit "girly." Ha... I'm a 49-year old man who still learns something every time he goes there. Kathy's the managing editor of Concealed Carry magazine. Lots of people write well, but Kathy combines that with serious knowledge of defensive handguns.
From what you've written in your original post, if you held a (borrowed) gun to my head and said, "tell me what to buy right now for $450!" I'd say, "get a good quality, used Smith & Wesson or Ruger revolver in .38 Spl or .357 Mag, and some ammo." Then I'd try to convince you to get a good .22, as well. ;)
jason97496
March 23, 2009, 02:45 PM
My story might help:
A couple of months ago I decided that I wanted a handgun. I did a little bit (not nearly enough) of half-hearted research. I quickly noticed that there was not much difference in price between new and used.
At a gun show I found what I thought was a good deal. I bought a Jiminez 9mm. It looked like the other semi autos and was only $180. I bought it quickly. It malfunctioned after 20 rounds and now I need to get it mailed off to the shop for repairs.
My second purchase my wife went with me. She pointed out that she really likes the look of revolvers. She thinks that they look tough. I decided that I would buy a Taurus 605. I had wanted a .357 because I could shoot .38 spl rounds through it as well. I reasoned that it was like getting two guns in one. I still was not comfortable. The 605 is only a 5 shot. With work I sometimes have thousands of dollars in my pocket in some very questionable neighborhoods. Five rounds does not feel like enough to get me out of a bad situation.
Finally I decided to suck it up, spend the extra money and a quality gun that has a high round capacity, will go bang every time I need it to, and is still small enough to conceal. I now have a Glock 19 and I am very comfortable.
I am looking for an ankle or pocket holster for my 605 so I can carry it as a back up gun when I am feeling a little extra nervous.
I guess my point is, do not try to skimp on the price and do not buy what someone else likes. Think about why you need / want the gun. Then buy the one that works for you.
I paid $180 for the Jiminez, $369 for the Taurus, and $495 for the Glock 19. Plus $10 each for background checks for each purchase.
Good luck.
mljdeckard
March 23, 2009, 02:48 PM
I always tell people to start with a Glock 17 or 19. Find a used one and get some ammo and a holster. You may grow and evolve from it and decide you want something different later, but this gun can do everything anyone needs it to.
Ruodo
March 23, 2009, 03:21 PM
Kinda skimmed over the thread so sorry if I repeat anyone. :p
I would say a new ruger gp100 or a used S&W Model 10. Both are great well made revolvers and are amazing for the price.
memphisjim
March 23, 2009, 03:27 PM
the 22 starter sounds great in theory but.....
i started on a glock 21 (45acp) might kick a little bit but i just excepted that as what shooting a gun is like
id recommend glock 19 first
or a nice357 mag revolver
357 mag is very very versatile
rockheadd
March 24, 2009, 12:31 PM
Find a range and shoot as many as you can afford, in all calibers and configurations. You'll notice that some just "feel" better in your hand. If you're not comfortable with it, you will waste your money.
I've had several handguns in the past the everyone told me were fantastic firearms- and they probably were, except they just didn't feel right.
For $450 and your first weapon and for home defense? You have tons of choices. A .22 is great to learn with and train with, but not that great for stopping power (unless you can put 8 rounds in a 4" target in under 3 seconds in the dark in your PJ's) The Sig P-6 is a good military surplus choice in 9mm. The Czech 82 is a high capacity 9x18 Makarov that's reliable, compact and fun to shoot.
Bottom line is "test drive" as many as you can and then decide.
Have fun with it most importantly!
Gunn Noob
March 27, 2009, 02:10 PM
sorry it took me so long to get back on here, to answer some of your questions I have plenty of expierience shooting guns in calibers all the way up to 357 and have plenty of expierience with a 22 ( my father collects firearms)
being I have access to the 22 whenever i like I don't think I'd want one for my first gun, I have however looked at some of the guns you have suggested and seen some very promising prospects.
I was wondering a couple of things, firstly I have come across a 65-3 3" and was wondering what you guys thought of the gun (they are asking 450 and seems to be in good order)
also do you have any suggestions for semi autos with single stack magazines in that price range (preferably all metal)
thanks everyone, you've been more then helpful
BlindJustice
March 27, 2009, 02:35 PM
Don't listen to those other mall ninja experts, I'm the
THR expert you neeed to heed!!!
Now that the humour portion is out of the way...
Welcome out of lurk mode, and to THR
WHen I was considering my first handgun purchase, a far different time and
place, about '64. The family would go to a bigger city in Central Wash. state
for a day of shopping. I'd get away from the family at age 13 and went to a
sporting goods/pawn shop. I had been reading American Rifleman, Dad was an NRA member, and maybe Guns and ammo. The shop had a surplus P-38 for $35 I kept checking to see if it was there on other trips and had saved up the money from mowing lawns I got my Dad to go with me and I wanted to buy the P-38. The store owner took my Dad aside as I was handling the p-38. They came back and the gun store owner brought out a NIB in the blue S&W box, a Model 18 K-38 Combat Masterpiece 4" Bbl. adj. rear sight, and plain ramp front .22 LR. I was a bit let down I wasn't getting a war surplus gun what with childhood fantasies blah blah , anyway Dad matched my total and I got the M 18 - it was $78 and a belt holster with a strap that
had a snap to secure it. Years later I always had a thanks to that gun store owner who steered me in the right direction. I got a lot more shooting with the inexspensive .22 and it was a great shooter. It served me well on the farm in my teens. It was also a much higher quality .22 LR revolver than
my buddies import single action or H&R top break, etc handguns. I wish I had it today to pass along to a grandchild - well, I have other S&Ws for that.
You could probably find an M18 used for your budget and move up to a centerfire .38 or .357 later on - your choice.
I find myself today, when I go to the range I warm up with a 617 6" Bbl 10 shot cyl. prior to shooting my 625 5" Bbl. in .45 ACP The 617 is just so fun to shoot it's addictive
Randall
yenchisks
March 27, 2009, 02:40 PM
my vote is for a (gp100) ;)
Brian Dale
March 27, 2009, 02:41 PM
I was wondering a couple of things, firstly I have come across a 65-3 3" and was wondering what you guys thought of the gun
I'd like one myself.
Here's a current thread on the Model 13 (the blued version that matches the stainless Model 65). (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=438505)
Here's an excellent report on Models 13 and 65 by Marko Kloos. (http://munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com/2006/02/ode-to-carry-wheelgun_23.html)
Gunn Noob
March 27, 2009, 04:22 PM
thanks blind justice I will be sure to keep that in mind, if I do get one it'll probablly be in the future as at the moment i have the 22 situation semi covered (I need to get one of my own but for now I have to much fun shooting my dads woodsman :))
maksim
March 27, 2009, 04:41 PM
If you are going to want to shoot quite a bit, I second the 22lr. I could of spend much more, but got a 22lr for myself, even though shot everything from browning 22lr buckmarks to desert eagle 44 mags.
Unless you are reloading, shooting anything but 22lr is going to get pretty expensive, esp if going to shoot quite a bit.
My 22lr has already seen 1k rounds or so in 3 outings... and that was only an hour an outing.... all of that with cci blazers cost me under $30.
1k rounds from a 9mm... if you find the cheapest bulk pack... $200.
If money is an issue... dont get something you cant afford maintenance on.
Just because I can pay for a $100k mercedes, and 1k a month auto payment doesnt mean I can afford it.
Its like spending $1300 on a very nice 1911 Kimber in 45acp... and not having enough to put more than 50 rounds through the gun at the range... and if it is the only gun you have.... maybe not the best idea.
I have an xd in 45gap... that while ammo is avail, harder to find and some places charging $28 a box... it is a great round.... but really, making holes in paper... a 22lr is just the same.
BlindJustice
March 27, 2009, 07:48 PM
Wll, Gun Noob you're welcome...just sharing my experience, seeing how
yah have been honing your skills with a .22 Handgun, I'll tell yah about my
revolvers.
I have
625 5" Bbl full underlug .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim
617 6" Bbl. these both weigh 45 oz. and I need a
friggin shoulder holster to think about a field rig.
686P 4" Bbl. Red insert in the ramp front sight, and adj. rear with
White outline. These on the used market are in the $400 range. I
have Hogue finger grooves/checkered rosewood grips nice balance
and it's about the same O.A.L. as my full size 1911. For HD/SD I use
SPeers .38 Special +P 125 gr. Gold Dot JHPs. In the field I'll take
full house .357 Mga. bullet weight depands on possible game but the
158 gr. bullet weight is a great all arounder. A Marllin 1894 in .357 Mag.
would pair up nicely with it if I ever get around to getting one. I have
an 1894 in .45 Colt.
S&W Model 60 CHiefs Special it's the -15 chambered in .357 Mag. but
as with the 686P .38 Special +P fits it much better, easier for recoil
management, and follow up shots - I practice Double Taps, the fast follow up Double action shots with all my S&Ws. My 60 has the 3" Bbl.
and adj. rear sight,the shorter barreled 60s have fixed rear.
I do think a K-frame has the best double action pull of all the S&W
frames, seems S&W got it right with the first model hand ejector which the
K frame M&P descended from, right with their first design.
Randall
Gunn Noob
March 28, 2009, 08:39 AM
those 45acp revolvers sure sound nice, unfortunately I have found the majority to be out of my price range at present.
Thyere still is alot to love about a 45 acp revolver
http://i44.tinypic.com/2l3ktd.jpg
I find myself quite fond of the 25-2 model :)
thorazine
March 29, 2009, 03:36 PM
the 22 starter sounds great in theory but.....
i started on a glock 21 (45acp) might kick a little bit but i just excepted that as what shooting a gun is like
id recommend glock 19 first
or a nice357 mag revolver
357 mag is very very versatile
Agreed.
My first hand gun was chambered in 9X19MM.
Many years later I picked up a twenty two pistol.
Twenty two pistols are great but not for the -- only gun.
CalvinandHobbes
March 30, 2009, 03:09 PM
My thoughts exactly Rockheadd!
aHFo3
March 30, 2009, 04:45 PM
There are many guns that would serve you well for your first handgun. It sounds like you want to buy one and never sell it, because it's your first handgun...I'll never sell my first handgun either!
Anyway, You should come up with a list of 5 or 6 that you would love to have, and then keep your eye out for a great deal on one...be patient, because you'll be old enough to buy a handgun for the rest of your life!
That 3" model 65 is on my list. I'm not sure about the price. Have you familiarized yourself with the revolver checkout? It's a sticky thread found at the top of the revolver forum. It will really help you evaluate the quality of a revolver.
Good luck, and let us all know what you get.
Bullnettles
March 31, 2009, 12:18 AM
357 mag 4in or shorter. Shoot cheap 38's for practice, and then move up to 357 mag loads. Fairly easy to carry (if shorter than 4 in). I love my Smith m19 for shooting, but if I were to carry it without a jacket, I'd get one with a shorter barrel. Bullet count is important, but accuracy outweighs that by a LONG shot IMHO. I carry a 442 in pocket and couldn't be happier AND it's in your price range. Only drawback is it isn't too much fun to shoot all day... Good luck in your research and welcome to THR!
kyo
March 31, 2009, 02:13 AM
Do what I did. Go to a range that charges a 1 time rental for guns, where you can switch up as much as you want.
Buy a box of 9mm, a box of 40 S&W, and a box of .45 ACP
Why do I say these? Cause they are semi-auto rounds. I prefer them to revolvers. Your preference may be different.
Then, pick up a glock 9mm, a sig 9mm, and a Ruger SR9. I say SR9 cause I haven't shot it yet, but I hear good things.
Grab a Ruger p944, glock 22/23, and a S&W .40 caliber(don't remember the name)
Test them all out
Then grab a sig .45, a ruger 45, either the p90/p345, and a glock .45 but the glock 45's need different ammo, so try to run something different, maybe a 1911 model.
Now, why do I say ruger for all 3? According to your budget, they would fit very well. Then do what I did again. Shoot them, make NOTES on the ones you liked, and what you did/did not like about them. Your answers will surprise you!
Next, pick one you like the best, and research it to DEATH! I mean death. I ended up picking up a P345 myself after firing it enough, checking with my dad, and reviewing any problems/incidents with it. Turns out, the only problem would be dry firing without the mag in place, which doesn't bother me, cause I got snap caps. About 3 months of looking and reading before I picked it up.
I suggest you seriously do the same so you don't have a buyer's regret when the gun does or doesn't do something you haven't factored in.
Brian Dale
March 31, 2009, 02:59 AM
Good post, kyo. Welcome to The High Road.
rj112275
March 31, 2009, 03:38 AM
My first handgun was a Ruger GP100. I lived in CO and wanted something I could carry camping and keep in the truck.
However, for self defense around the home with the alternative use for target shooting, my vote is for a 9mm.
Price range, I think you can't go wrong with a Glock 19. If you plan to carry concealed, I think I would start with a Glock 26. I own both and they are both good shooters, but the 26 is not a target gun.
Good luck. You'll continue to add to your collection, so buy early, buy often, and don't trade or sell away any gun. You'll only regret... Oh, get a safe too.
D-Day
March 31, 2009, 07:50 AM
Rock Island 1911's are a nice gun for the price. They have a variety of configurations and calibers as well.
RT55
April 1, 2009, 10:48 PM
I'll post my $.02 worth here as well. My first handgun was a GP100. Love it. I wanted a .22 to go with it, so I bought a Heritage SA, figuring that it was cheap, and would do what I wanted it to. Well, the Ruger spoiled me. I could definitely see and feel the difference in quality between the Ruger and the Heritage. Soon I got rid of the Heritage and replaced it with a Ruger Single 6. And then another one in stainless. Then I found a stainless Ruger Mk.II Target with the slab side barrel. Sure was pretty sitting in the cabinet at the gun shop. It went home with me. I knew that I had to have a more powerful autoloader than that .22, so when I saw the CZ82 on line for right around $200, I ordered it. Liked the feel of the CZ so much that I had to get another, so a CZ75PCR came home with me. Anybody starting to see a pattern of behavior here? This has all been within the past couple of years, btw. My family all think I've gone over the edge, except for my brother, who has more guns than the sheriff's department. He's quite pleased with the situation. My advice? Spend some fairly serious money on a nice gun that makes you smile when you pick it up, then start saving your spare change for the next one. Actually, you know how a lot of folks throw their spare change into a jar at the end of the day to save for a rainy day...or a gun? Well, $1 bills go in there now. Have fun!
RT55
kyo
April 2, 2009, 01:48 AM
Spend some fairly serious money on a nice gun that makes you smile when you pick it up...
I agree with this. I can't not have happy thoughts when I pick up mine. It makes me want to shoot so bad. I can't get addicted until I start loading :cool:
skeeter_08
April 2, 2009, 10:58 PM
searcher451 said it right; go to a range that rents guns and spend some time running some rounds through various makes and models and calibers. I did this for six months before I bought my first handgun, a Sig P228. I’d add that you should consider taking the NRA Basic Handgun Safety Course whenever and wherever you can schedule it, and apply for whatever handgun carry permit the state where you live offers. skeeter_08
New gun owner
April 3, 2009, 01:30 PM
The poster does not mention if they are of slight build, or if they are a man or woman - my recommendation for women and shooters with smaller grips is a Glock 19. Still powerful, but easier to hold with one hand when reloading and the weight of the firearm is distributed well. Some larger guns (like the Sig Sauer, or even the Glock 17) can be unruly in smaller hands.
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