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Jim March
October 8, 2003, 04:30 PM
...along comes:

Angle-Grinder Man!

http://anglegrinderman.co.uk/

http://www.anglegrinderman.co.uk/agm_sparks.jpg

http://www.anglegrinderman.co.uk/agm_bite.gif

Ye GODS I have myself a new hero!

:D

This dude is so far past "gonzo" he's on another continent :p.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/07/international/europe/07LOND.html

October 2, 2003

Car Owners' Hero Dresses for the Job
By SARAH LYALL

LONDON - As is so often the case, the trickiest part came when he had to explain himself to his family.

"I got kind of a lukewarm response," said the masked Englishman who calls himself Angle-Grinder Man and who has been trawling London for four months dressed in a homemade superhero outfit, complete with gold lamé underpants and cape, removing the security boots from people's illegally parked cars.

"Any parent who gets a phone call from his son saying, `Oh, you might see me in the newspaper; I'm a superhero wheel clamp vigilante' - it might take them a little while to formulate their views," he said in an interview.

As a one-man vigilante force, Angle-Grinder Man, who takes his name from the boot-destroying circular saw he wields, has made only a modest impact: by his own estimates, he has freed about 20 cars so far (he does it only part time). But his campaign against the city's effort to immobilize cars for parking violations and other infractions has touched a nerve in a city of strict parking regulations, zealous traffic police officers, ubiquitous speed cameras and car owners increasingly aggrieved at what they believe is mean-spirited law enforcement.

Although he hardly melts into the background, particularly when he switches on his noisy machine, Angle-Grinder Man has so far managed to elude the authorities by a mixture of luck, cunning and quick work: once he gets going, he can liberate a car in less than a minute. He does not accept money and says his main motivation is "anger at how politicians in this country treat people in general, but particularly in regard to motoring
regulations."

Needless to say, the police are not amused. "Both Angle-Grinder Man and the owner of the vehicle could be charged with criminal damage if the driver admitted they consented to the act," a Scotland Yard spokesman told The Evening Standard.

Interviewed in the London office of The New York Times, Angle-Grinder Man was coy about his civilian identity. He said he had been threatened and harassed, mostly by private outfits that charge for removing the clamping devices. He is currently unemployed, but living on the savings he has accumulated from jobs that have reportedly included office clerk and entertainer at children's parties.

Long-haired and lanky, he is becoming well known in some parts of south London. About a month ago, 25-year-old Petite Tendai arrived home to find a boot on her illegally parked car. ("There were no signs saying `no parking,'" she declared.) She had barely begun to rail at the injustice of it all when Angle-Grinder Man suddenly appeared.

"Basically, he jumped out of his car in his outfit and said, `If anyone can, Angle-Grinder Man can,' " Ms. Tendai said in a telephone interview. "Then he just started sawing it off. It was wicked." He was gone almost as quickly as he came. "It was just a `good luck,' and what-not, and then he was off," she said.

Angle-Grinder Man was spurred to activism when his car was booted and he was told that it would cost £95 (a little over $150) to free it. "I was fuming inside," he said. He rented a circular saw for about £30 and did the job himself. He taped a photograph of the sawed-up clamp to his windshield, along with a note saying, "Please don't clamp me because I've got an extremely sensitive nature."

The sign proved a hit, although he had to remove it, he said, "when a guy on a motorbike in traffic nearly fell off his bike, he was laughing so hard." But Angle-Grinder Man knew he was on to something. "There was so much
injustice out there," he said.

It took him some time to hone his look, and he rejected a number of color schemes before settling on blue and gold. "There's no school you can go to to learn how to be a superhero," he said. Perhaps most crucially, he found the perfect roll of gold lamé fabric at a flea market ("I had to hold it up and ask the girl how much did she think I would need to make a cape," he said).

For the boots, he spray-painted a pair of cowboy boots gold. The underpants are a pair of bikini briefs covered with the flea-market lamé. The gloves came from a piercing-and-fetish shop. Angle-Grinder Man designed the logo himself, proudly gluing the letters "AGM" onto the costume. "I wanted to have a balance between the political side and the comedy side," he said.

His Web site and his hot line for distressed car owners have drawn hoax messages, threats and dozens of fan notes, including one from a man who noted approvingly, "It's time we had a gay superhero."

For the record, "I'm a heterosexual superhero," Angle-Grinder Man said, "although I have no problem being a gay icon."

After the interview was over, Angle-Grinder Man strode into the street in full regalia, wheeling the suitcase full of civilian clothes he planned to wear on the train home later. Watching his gold cape glitter and swirl heroically in the afternoon light, Judith Smith, a sales clerk who said she had been following Angle-Grinder Man's exploits on his Web site, pronounced herself a big fan.

"I think he's extraordinarily attractive," Ms. Smith said. "Especially the golden knickers."

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dustind
October 8, 2003, 04:59 PM
"Both Angle-Grinder Man and the owner of the vehicle could be charged with criminal damage if the driver admitted they consented to the act," a Scotland Yard spokesman told The Evening Standard.
I did not know people still had the right to plead not guilty in that country. :neener:

Personally I would use a plasma cutter, it costs more but cuts faster and is quiet. I could be "plasma boy".

jsalcedo
October 8, 2003, 06:52 PM
See thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42209

Jim March
October 8, 2003, 07:00 PM
Huh. Well Preacherman was *completely* wrong, because this is about as political as it gets.

It's about how far people can be pushed before they'll push back. To quote his site:

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Political Premise Behind A.G.M.

There is a comedy side to AGM’s activities because I like to entertain and also, of course, because it winds up the authorities and it makes it harder for them to deal with me. However, the political premise and ideas behind it all are deadly serious.

Introduction.

My obsession with Wheel-clamping is actually a rebellion against a much deeper malaise. This is, namely, the arrogant contempt that politicians hold for the people who put them into power, and whom they claim to represent. Wheel-clamping, Speed Cameras, Congestion Charging, proposed I.D. cards, omnipresent C.C.T.V. Cameras, new toll-roads, and the M.M.R. vaccine fiasco are all good examples of inept administrators attempting to make their lives easier and solve their own mismanagement problems by persecuting the people that they have failed. For them public opinion is not something that they have to listen to, but something to try and manipulate…with our money!! What arrogance. Those twits (one letter wrong), work for us! If I declared my earnings to the Inland Revenue…I’d be paying for them! They already do the only job in the world that doesn’t have to be cost effective and where you can set your own salary.



Wheel-clamping. -Unfair, Illegal and Unwanted.

Unfair.

As there are not enough car parking spaces in London and because the public transport system is a joke, drivers (paticularly builders and other tradesmen) are forced to park illegally on a regular basis. These are people who have paid for road license tax discs! Having allowed this crisis to develop, central and local government should be sued for shambolic mismanagement, not allowed to claw back revenue from the very people whom they have let down! And that is the reason that most cars are clamped. Money. The borough of Southwark alone clamps hundreds of vehicles per day, in side streets and in uncongested areas, at a release fee of £85.00 a throw. Is it any wonder that the Traffic Gestapo are paid such high wages? Never mind parking permits, why are these guys allowed a license to print money!??

Illegal.

The letter of the law actually states that placing a wheel-clamp on someone else’s vehicle, is technically trespass upon their property. This is what you would expect. If anyone else were to disable somebody’s car and hold it to ransom, as a means of extorting money from it’s owner, then that person would spend the night in a Police cell! The Mafia, Triads, and Yakusa are all banned from demanding payment through coercion, but if you have a shiny peaked cap and a council uniform, then it seems to be allowed.

Unwanted.

Apart from the actual clampers (who, I have it on very good authority, turn a blind eye to their colleague’s cars, when found illegally parked), it would appear that the only people in the capital who actually approve of vehicle immobilization, are the bureaucrats and politicians themselves. Not that Alistair Darling or Ken Livingston would know anything about driving in London….they both have chauffeurs paid for by the tax payer. And Jack Straw’s flunkey doesn’t even have to obey the speed limits! I have seen old ladies sitting by their cars crying and men being restrained by friends, frustrated and disempowered by a corrupt system that nobody wants. Most Londoners know over 100 people who drive. Try and find just one who is in favour of clamping.



Why is it Allowed to Continue?

So the question that has to be asked, is: How can something that is so deeply unpopular survive in a democracy? We live in a country where the government is answerable to it’s people after all. The answer has to be, that so great is our dissatisfaction with politicians, and the field of politics in general that we feel impotent and unable to do anything about it. We allow ourselves to be persecuted purely because we see everybody else allowing them selves to be persecuted. It would seem that our daily existence in this country (and in London particularly) has become so miserable, stressed, depressed and sullen (at the hands of our beloved politicians) that we have lost our spirit. We are grateful of the very smallest of mercies and would suffer the greatest injustices in return for the tiniest amount of short-term peace.



Angle-grinder Man’s Conclusion

So do we really have nothing left to give? Is the toll of an average day living in the capital now so stressful and unrewarding that we are prepared to cut our losses, accept just a few short hours at the end of the day (that are only marginally and relatively more fulfilling) and unwilling to stand up for ourselves and what is right? Have our leaders really ground us down this much? Perhaps this would not be the case if it were known that politicians are not the unassailable Demi-Gods they consider themselves to be. (* see footnote below) The stranglehold that they exert over us is our belief that we are powerless and have no choice but to abide by their decrees. This is again a result of the society that they have fostered and continue to uphold.

These clots (two letters wrong) WORK FOR US!!

In the late 1980’s, the then Conservative government introduced the unwanted Community Charge which millions of people refused to pay. The Prime Minister was out of step with public opinion but through haughty disdain for the electorate, dug in her heels, and declared that all non-payers would go to prison. What actually happened, was that nobody went to prison. Margaret Thatcher was swept from power and the hated Poll Tax was scrapped. Because the public had stood together, and more importantly, because they had realised that they really could set the agenda and were not bound by the demands of Parliament, the perception (and it really is only a perception) that we are powerless to affect change, was broken. The stranglehold that politicians hold over us is only a stranglehold because we usually chose to see it as such. After all…..THOSE BERKS WORKS FOR US!! (look up ‘berk’ in the Oxford English or a good rhyming slang dictionary). If we all kept angle-grinders in our cars, all stopped paying speeding fines and all boycotted the soon to be introduced, so called, congestion charge….then wheel-clampers, speed cameras and congestion tolls would vanish overnight. (As a complete aside, wouldn’t it be just hilarious to see m.p.’s clamouring to change sides and distance themselves from these things as soon as they realised that they were doomed to failure, as they so desperately tried to with the Millennium Dome?) Che Guevara summed it up best when he said….The skeleton of our complete freedom is already formed, only the flesh and clothing are lacking.

I for one am prepared to fight for what is fair and am making myself available to the public. I may not be able to single-handedly and totally cast off the repressive shackles of a corrupt government…..but I can cut off your wheel-clamps for you. In forming a sort of unofficial, militant wing of the A.A. to rebel against wheel-clamps, speed cameras and congestion charging, I will stand up to the infidels and reclaim the testicular organs of our fellow emasculated motorists. In the words of the great Dr. Strangelove, no longer can I stand idly by while these pre-verts take over our bodily fluids.

Call me now on: 07984-121043.

THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN !
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Jim again. Not political?

:scrutiny:

jsalcedo
October 8, 2003, 07:05 PM
The people in the UK have indeed been pushed too far.

We need to chip in and buy the guy a proper costume.

Preacherman
October 8, 2003, 07:11 PM
OK, Jim, you win - the stuff you posted was definitely political, so this thread can keep going for a while. However, I still think we need some gun-related content... how about the penetration effect of an angle-grinder blade compared to a .45 ACP 230gr. FMJ? :D

Quartus
October 8, 2003, 07:20 PM
That's a reach, Preach!


Oh, the shame of it all! This is what happens...




...When Good Moderators Go Bad!


:D


Hmmm. Interesting question. Maybe agricola can shed some light on this. Is Britain a democracy?

Or is AGM just as ignorant as most Americans?

citizen
October 8, 2003, 07:53 PM
Hmmmmmm. Interesting.

Sorry.:o

I thought it was somehow related to David Letterman's "Grinder Girl" on the Late Show...........:o

(They'd make a PERFECT couple.....)

greyhound
October 8, 2003, 07:58 PM
Didn't they outlaw those angle grinders since they might be use in self defense?:rolleyes:

cordex
October 8, 2003, 08:09 PM
Didn't they outlaw those angle grinders since they might be use in self defense?
No, but any police officer could arrest you for possessing an offensive weapon.

I think we need to get some more info about these clamps.
Are they steel? How thick? About how hard?

Would they stop a rifle round if it bounced off of someone's engine block? What is the best caliber of saw blade to carry around dangerous Clamp Country?

Balog
October 8, 2003, 08:13 PM
A rather sad commentary on the quality of the Brit's LEO's when they can't catch a guy in a gold superheroe outfit, openly using large noisy powertools in public. Who runs a website about his activities.

Explain to me again why only cops should have guns?:scrutiny:

C.R.Sam
October 8, 2003, 08:29 PM
Balog typed what I was thinkin as I read down.

Amazing that he is so open about it and still loose.

Goodonhim.

Sam

Mark Tyson
October 8, 2003, 10:30 PM
Although he hardly melts into the background, particularly when he switches on his noisy machine, Angle-Grinder Man has so far managed to elude the authorities

Must . . . resist . . . urge . . . to insult British law enforcement . . .

Quartus
October 8, 2003, 11:25 PM
Relax, Mark. AGM has it covered already.



:D

Preacherman
October 9, 2003, 12:19 AM
Don't forget that England is famous for its batty characters. Who can forget Screaming Lord Sutch (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A778025) and his Monster Raving Loony Party (http://www.omrlp.com/)? I always loved their demand to know why there was only one Monopolies Commission! :D

jimpeel
October 9, 2003, 01:17 AM
Why is it that people keep trying to say that the L&P forum has to be somehow firearms related when the descriptive text clearly states:Get informed on issues affecting the right to keep and bear arms and other civil rights. Coordinate activism, debate with allies and opponents. Discuss laws concerning firearm ownership, concealed carry and self-defense.The ONLY forum that states that threads MUST be firearms related is the General Discussion forum which states:Meet fellow forum members, find a common ground. Introduce new people to responsible firearm ownership. Posts must be related to firearms.

Don Gwinn as moderator at TFL stated in the thread at http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=88006 You can post anything in Legal/Political that you can show is relevant to politics and civil liberties. However, flaming and/or ad hominem will not be tolerated from either side. A discussion of socialism is fine. Just keep the politics in L&P and you'll be fine.

By the by ... I re-read that thread and it is still an enjoyable read. Probably the best debate we ever had at TFL. Tied for third place as the most actively participated in thread in TFLs existence.

WilderBill
October 9, 2003, 10:00 AM
Hmmm, a glimmer of desent.
Good!
Wouldn't it be nice if this tiny spark lit a fire under the average commoner?

erikm
October 9, 2003, 11:12 AM
Hrm. Don't get me started on traffic police. My beef is with speed cameras in particular. :fire:

In this country the cops think that placing automatic cameras on roadsides is a nifty idea. They also seem to think that setting them for slightly over the limit is fun. :cuss:

Of course, dutch drivers are less than amused. The locations of mobile police radar guns and speed traps are routinely posted and broadcast (on radio). Locations of fixed and camoflaged cameras are listed online, at www.tuftufclub.nl among other sites. :)

And then there's the 'direct action' people. People who like to ram, paint, hole, burn, fill with plastic foam, blow up or otherwise disable permanently sited camera boxes.

Here's one that was explosively disabled earlier (while loaded).
http://www.tuftufclub.com/fotos/archief/021221bloemendaal5.jpg
http://www.tuftufclub.com/fotos/archief/021221bloemendaal4.jpg

Fixed speed camera case losses have been estimated at 10% per year, nationwide. I'm waiting until someone decides that placing homemade thermite charges on top of them is a good idea. :D

While some traffic police duties are generally a good thing (get caught anywhere driving at 50 kph over the posted limit, you could lose your license and your car), use of speed cameras isn't among them. The only good thing I can say about how speed cameras are used here is that while the cameras are AFAIK entirely owned and operated by the police, they don't keep part of the proceeds.

Cheers,
ErikM :evil:

Hutch
October 9, 2003, 04:06 PM
There was some hidden-camera video of quasi-legal thuggery going on over there, with guys putting signs up and booting cars while the owners were gone. Apparently, owners of property on which such parking places exist can legally boot cars and extort the cumshaw from the hapless driver in that fashion.

Wonder how long that practice, or should I say - those practicianers, would last in, oh, say, Birmingham, AL, instead of Birmingham, UK? (Hint: the booters shouldn't buy any green bananas...)

Bully for the masked man!

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