How much this thing worth? (win '92)


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newdude
March 24, 2009, 09:44 PM
So i just got my hands on a winchester 92, in .25-20, and am wanting to know its worth. I don't have the funds to feed the thing, but if i sell it, i can get ammo for my other rifles. (or a new cheaper rifle:D) I don't know the entire "precent" grading system, so i will jsut put up some pics, and if you need any more taken, i should be able to. On the furniture, it is almost perfect, maybe two dents a millimeter in diameter and depth on the stock, and nothing that i could find on the stock. Also not sure what the bluing should look like, but it is pretty good, like a musuam piece. (BTW, this was never reconditioned to the best of my belief, this guy was a collecter of nice guns. Got rid of most of them before he passed away though, minus this, which is why i now have it)

Here the few pics i took, sorry about the lacking quality of um:
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/newdude90/100_2091.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/newdude90/100_2090.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/newdude90/100_2089.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/newdude90/100_2088.jpg
Thanks,

Neal

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capiefogman
March 26, 2009, 12:01 AM
in my gun book the price is 500 dollors here in canada people that collect these gun would pay that it seams to be in very good shap

Big Daddy Grim
March 26, 2009, 12:09 AM
Theres one at my local gun shop for 545$ if that helps he is usaually ok on prices but a bit high for stuff he considers "collectible"

Gordon
March 26, 2009, 09:24 PM
I'll give you $600 right now!

newdude
March 26, 2009, 09:56 PM
500 dollors
545$

Umm...maybe i am like, way off track here, but when i was looking online for similar rifles, they were all $1.5k-$3k+!:confused: So i was thinking it was worth quite a bit more, espically given its great condition without being redone....?
Here are two that i found:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976827030/Guns-For-Sale/Gun-Auctions/Rifles/Winchester-Rifles-Modern-Lever/Winchester_model_1892_lever_action_rifle_caliber_25_20_W_C_.htm
http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---gonzales---win-rifle---921755-25win92-gon.shtml

newdude
March 30, 2009, 07:19 PM
Nobody?!

JohnBT
March 30, 2009, 09:12 PM
I was thinking a grand or $1500 after looking at your pics, but it's hard to tell exactly how nice you rifle is without seeing it up close in very good light.

That $1850 gun you linked to... "Stock and metal covered in old varnish." Well, he's nuts. Sorry.

A lot of what you see on the net are asking prices. Searching some of the auctions sites for closed auctions on guns that actually sold will give you a little better idea.

Still, we're in a recession/depression and finding a buyer is a little harder than it was a year or two ago. OTOH, there's always big money available for the nicest of the nice stuff.

John

newdude
March 31, 2009, 06:04 PM
JohnBT,
Thanks for the info, i ahd actually found a link before to a $3.5k rile with almost the EXACT condition as mine... I will try to do that search.

How would i go around to getting a good apraisal, i don't have anyone who does that around me AFAIK.

newdude
April 2, 2009, 08:37 PM
Anyone?

Kman
April 2, 2009, 11:25 PM
You need to find a dealer/appraiser who deals almost exclusively in Winchester. What you have is a rare rifle, if the bore is as good as the outside, it's a very rare rifle. The smaller calibers are not as desirable as the larger, and the market swings between rifles and carbines depending on lots of different factors. It seems every time a good western movie comes out they jump in one direction or the other. The receiver looks to be patina gray/blue 50/50, from what I can tell {which ain't much} so a quick off-hand guess to value 1200-1600. In a bullish winchester market {like two years ago} that rifle with a good bore could have brought 2000- 2500 no problem.

krs
April 4, 2009, 01:39 PM
Did you put any cold blue product to that rifle?

newdude
April 4, 2009, 05:47 PM
Did you put any cold blue product to that rifle?
nope. That is as standard as the day it came out of the factory, as far as i know.

Kman,
Okay, so where do i look for a appraiser? I live in central KY....

Sunray
April 5, 2009, 12:35 AM
"...if I sell it..." CAS shooters will give you their first born for that rifle. There's a 1925 vintage one on Simpson's that's not in as nice condition and missing the sight elevator, they want $1195 for. $3500 would be pushing it though.
The ammo isn't exactly easy to get and it's expensive(Midway wants $55.99 per 50) though. Seasonal run by Remington. Out of stock, but expected from Ten-X. Still $55.99 per 50.

krs
April 5, 2009, 10:58 AM
Cowboy action shooters shoot new Marlins. If they have the bucks they buy Cimmarons. And isn't their rifle supposed to shoot the same caliber as their pistol? You see lots of them using .38 Spec. in .357 carbines and revolvers. Some like .44's.


You can find asking prices as high as the moon. You'll notice that none of them are sold.

When you find an appraiser who guesses a price you like, offer to sell him the rifle for the price he states.

He won't take you up on it.

You pay appraisers to fatten your ego, but they won't do anything to fatten your wallet.

Deer Hunter
April 5, 2009, 11:34 AM
My father had a gun like that when he was a kid. I'd buy it from you if I had the money and give it to my dad.

chuckusaret
April 5, 2009, 11:52 AM
I have a Winchester 92 John Wayne 44-40 NIB that the MSRP is $1795 but when I tried to sell it the best offer was $1250. My son will get a nice gun when I die. I would guess he will sell it and buy two Cimmarons

Kman
April 6, 2009, 12:03 AM
Bardstown Ky, place called Keene's Depot, this guy sells lots of firearms, does he specialize? I doubt it, but he may know someone who does. The other is Whittakers, just outside Owensboro, he too sells lots of guns, and also may know of someone who fancies Winchesters. As stated above, an appraiser will give you an inflated value, and a buyer will give you an offer, somewhere in between is the market.
Do you know it's date? get a blue book from the Library and take the serial # with you to look it up, the Winchester section for date of manufacture is located in the back, follow the headings until you see 1892, it's pretty easy.

newdude
April 23, 2009, 09:52 PM
Kman, thanks for the places to look, i will probably drop by them sometime.

rcmodel
April 24, 2009, 01:34 PM
Winchester 92 John Wayne 44-40 NIBNot in the same collector ballpark as the old 92 in the OP.

Commemorative Japanese made 92's will never come close to the value of the real thing.

rc

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