What is velocity of 9mm NATO?


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Lone_Gunman
March 24, 2009, 09:43 PM
I have bought some Winchester 9mm NATO 124g FMJ ammo... it has the NATO cross on it. What is the velocity of this ammo?

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usp9
March 24, 2009, 10:48 PM
About 1250 fps

novan3
March 25, 2009, 01:11 AM
Run through a chrony if you can :)

GTSteve03
March 25, 2009, 01:16 AM
I believe NATO spec is around 1200fps, but it sort of varies. I think the Win stuff is around 1180-1200 depending on barrel length.

Spyvie
March 25, 2009, 03:14 AM
I have about 300 rounds of that stuff I bought a few years ago thinking hot hardball might be good to keep around. I've never chrono'ed it but it doesn't feel that potent, in either report or recoil. Seems about the same as plain old WWB.

Fiocchi 115Gr FMJ feels hotter.

usp9
March 25, 2009, 07:20 AM
deleted. :o

metallic
March 25, 2009, 09:30 AM
African or European? :evil: Should be around 1200fps as others have stated.

jaysouth
March 25, 2009, 10:04 AM
M-882 WCC 01 chronographed at 1165-1185 out of my 5" STI and slightly lower out of a Beretta 92F.

I was not impressed at except for the "low" cost of the ammo.

Deer Hunter
March 25, 2009, 12:21 PM
Fiocchi 115Gr FMJ feels hotter.

No kidding! I bought 1k rounds of that stuff when it was cheap. It's some hot stuff.

atblis
March 25, 2009, 01:06 PM
The bullet weight is odd on some of the Nato stuff. IIRC, they can be light actually (<115 gr).

tipoc
March 25, 2009, 01:20 PM
NATO recognizes two standard bullet weights of 115 gr. and 124 gr. either is approved for use by NATO allied troops. Pressures and velocities can vary and do by manufacturer and country. It's a misconception that there is one NATO approved load.

See below...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_EPVAT_testing#Proofing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9mm_NATO

tipoc

atblis
March 25, 2009, 01:33 PM
Olin M882 at one point was 112 gr.

tipoc
March 25, 2009, 01:46 PM
Oops, I shoulda added that 147 gr. loads are also used by NATO. It ain't just two bullet weights as I incorrectly said above.

tipoc

Spyvie
March 25, 2009, 02:55 PM
I did a little googling trying to find chrono numbers for the 124Gr NATO in the OP. (Q4318 on my boxes) I didn’t find much worthy of reposting here, just a general lack of excitement about the round. It is interesting that I found several references to NATO numbers coming from an 8” test barrel, while SAMI uses a more reasonable 4”

atblis
March 25, 2009, 03:59 PM
I can't find the Nato spec but what I remember is that they specify a min velocity and min energy and possibly a max pressure.

Anybody got Nato specs?

rcmodel
March 25, 2009, 04:02 PM
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/pistol_ammo.html#9mm

rc

tipoc
March 25, 2009, 04:36 PM
Anybody got Nato specs?

I posted the links to them above.

tipoc

351 WINCHESTER
March 25, 2009, 09:32 PM
I was given a box of w/w nato spec. I have fiocchi that is quite a bit hotter.

351 WINCHESTER
March 25, 2009, 09:35 PM
I was given a box of w/w nato spec. I have fiocchi that is quite a bit hotter.

flrfh213
March 26, 2009, 12:05 AM
umm loved them when i had them

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