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Jon_Snow
March 25, 2009, 03:40 PM
I'll admit it right up front: I love paintball. Specifically pump paintball. And I'm now falling in love with shooting trap. On my pump paintball markers I can hold the trigger down while pumping and the marker will fire when I complete the pump-stroke. Will a pump shotgun, specifically a Rem 870, do the same? I have no intention of messing around with this, I'm really just trying to satisfy my curiosity.

Deer Hunter
March 25, 2009, 03:44 PM
No.

Old winchester "trench guns" will do that. The winchester model 1897, that is.

novaDAK
March 25, 2009, 03:44 PM
Some "riot" shotguns had such feature but in general, no, you must release the trigger between shots.

rcmodel
March 25, 2009, 03:45 PM
NO.

Almost all modern shotguns have a disconnecter to prevent that from happening when you don't want it too.

The last of the breed were the old Winchester 97 & Model 12, Ithaca 37, and a few others.

870's were designed from the get-go not to work that way.

Anyway, nobody could hit worth a dang shooting trap by holding the trigger down and pumping when you want the shot to go off.

BTW: You are supposed to hit the blue-rock the first shot every time.

rc

Geneseo1911
March 25, 2009, 03:47 PM
No, an 870 has a disconnector which requires you to release and re-squeeze the trigger before it will release the hammer. There are a few pump shotguns around that do not have a disconnetor. Older Ithaca M37s, Winchester M12s, and Winchester M1897s come to mind. Norinco makes a copy of the 1897, which I believe is the only SG made in the last 50 years or so not to have one.

EDIT: whew, I must be a slow typer.

rcmodel
March 25, 2009, 03:48 PM
I think the latest Norinco 97's also have a disconnector now, but I could be wrong.

rc

Jon_Snow
March 25, 2009, 03:49 PM
Thanks for the quick replies. Again, I have no intention of ever trying this, especially not for trap for the reasons rcmodel stated. I just wanted to know.

Geneseo1911
March 25, 2009, 04:06 PM
"Slam-Firing" as people call it is a bunch of fun. I just sold an Ithaca I did it with just once (there is some speculation about it being hard on the gun), but the four round magazine goes too fast. If you do a search, you should be able to find a thread about the practice. Some people claimed you could shoot quite effectively that way; acting as though you are throwing the forend at the target. Never tried it at targets myself, though.

SWAMPUS
March 25, 2009, 05:05 PM
If you really want one,look to the pawn shops for an old Revelation pump,sold years age at Western Auto.I believe they were made by Win.for the auto stores.Bought one at a yard sale and was very surprised!

Badger Arms
March 25, 2009, 05:40 PM
I just sold an Ithaca I did it with just once (there is some speculation about it being hard on the gun), but the four round magazine goes too fast.

It's actually no harder on the gun than firing it normally. In fact, you can make the case that it's EASIER on the gun because the forward momentum of the bolt, your hand, the slide, etc. provide a buffer against the next strike. Kind of like "advanced primer ignition" but without the advanced part. Anyawy, not all Ithaca's had that feature. Many non-martial versions lacked the disconnector and instead of firing, the hammer just rode the bolt home requiring you to cycle the shotgun again (chucking out a live shell in the process).

Hungry Seagull
March 25, 2009, 05:46 PM
mmmm. No. Sowwy.

chuckusaret
March 25, 2009, 06:13 PM
I have an old Winchester 12 that will do it, but no way to be real accurate when pumping it.